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    There were once hostelries called apartment hotels or residential hotels. They ran the gamut from near flophouse to the best in the nation. President Hoover lived at the Waldorf in NYC for years after leaving the White House. They offered residential suites as well as full dining services. The staff would have been the best available. That's the Waldorf.

    I don't buy package deals. Gourmet food? Suppose they change chefs? Staff? Do they promise that there will be no illegal aliens or any with criminal records? What about pets? Do the rooms have safes—real safes? What are their security arrangements? Old people are targets.

    The apartment hotels of yore always had arrangements with restaurants to deliver food to rooms, generally at any hour. This is no big deal.

    Have they offered some arrangement that allows you to stay for a week or so on a trial basis? Then you could judge whether they really serve gourmet food.

    It may be more work to live in my own home, but I know that I'm lord of the manor. I determine who has access to my home.

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    Horn - there is more involved than the quality of the cooking. My wife and I are checking out similar places in our neck of the woods. The idea is to be considering the realities of what one's future needs may be and making arrangements in advance. There are places like the residential hotels you mentioned. There are ways to receive future care as it becomes needed. And there are places for total care (physical as well as mental). The point of these places is to provide a"package" allowing you to make arrangements well in advance so as to let you enjoy the present without the nagging worries about the future interfering - as well as removing the potential for laying a heavy load on your kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Horn View Post
    There were once hostelries called apartment hotels or residential hotels. They ran the gamut from near flophouse to the best in the nation. President Hoover lived at the Waldorf in NYC for years after leaving the White House. They offered residential suites as well as full dining services. The staff would have been the best available. That's the Waldorf.

    I don't buy package deals. Gourmet food? Suppose they change chefs? Staff? Do they promise that there will be no illegal aliens or any with criminal records? What about pets? Do the rooms have safes—real safes? What are their security arrangements? Old people are targets.

    The apartment hotels of yore always had arrangements with restaurants to deliver food to rooms, generally at any hour. This is no big deal.

    Have they offered some arrangement that allows you to stay for a week or so on a trial basis? Then you could judge whether they really serve gourmet food.

    It may be more work to live in my own home, but I know that I'm lord of the manor. I determine who has access to my home.
    You are a real unjustified SKEPTIC Big Horn. I have always been LORD OF THE MANOR with everything because I always pay my own way and don't seek FREEBIES or DEALS.

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    I have had two maids who also did home health care. They would stop at the client's home one or more times each day to take care of the client. I don't know the cost, but it can't have been more than what a "facility" charges for those services. The reason for this is to allow people to remain in their homes longer, ideally until their deaths. Most would consider this beneficial. In fact, there have been a number of changes in both Medicare and private insurance plans to make this possible.

    I had both hips replaced five years ago. While I was in the hospital for the first operation, I was bombarded by various staff members trying to convince me that I needed to go to the nursing home that they own (and which had many empty beds) for "rehabilitation." I refused their blandishments with contempt. One who had been well-trained in the art of frightening doddering old fools could barely contain her rage. I returned home where I live alone. My insurance covered the cost of a health aid as well as a physical therapist making thrice weekly trips to my home more than twenty miles from the hospital. They came on cold and snowy days without fail. It didn't cost me a nickel. The physical therapist came out for almost four months, the aid for a much shorter period. I'm good as new today.

    It would be wise for the OP to consult an appropriate physician regarding clinical depression. His statement about not wishing to perform normal household tasks is a real danger signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Horn View Post
    There were once hostelries called apartment hotels or residential hotels. They ran the gamut from near flophouse to the best in the nation. President Hoover lived at the Waldorf in NYC for years after leaving the White House. They offered residential suites as well as full dining services. The staff would have been the best available. That's the Waldorf.

    The apartment hotels of yore always had arrangements with restaurants to deliver food to rooms, generally at any hour. This is no big deal.
    My ex-husband worked in one of those hotels a very nice one when he was in school. The hotel had a good restaurant and provided room service to people who preferred to eat in their rooms. They also accepted deliveries from all of the local restaurants. I met some of the lovely people who lived there, mostly widows but there were a few men as well. There were some tenants who traveled for business. The hotel had different-sized suites and people could choose furnished, unfurnished or partially-furnished suites that were decorated to suit them. Most of the people had lived there for years and seemed quite happy with the arrangement. It's my understanding that larger European cities still have those apartment hotels.

    I hadn't thought of it before, but the hotels may have been the precursor to the kind of retirement community where Lon is going to be living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiling Jane View Post
    My ex-husband worked in one of those hotels a very nice one when he was in school. The hotel had a good restaurant and provided room service to people who preferred to eat in their rooms. They also accepted deliveries from all of the local restaurants. I met some of the lovely people who lived there, mostly widows but there were a few men as well. There were some tenants who traveled for business. The hotel had different-sized suites and people could choose furnished, unfurnished or partially-furnished suites that were decorated to suit them. Most of the people had lived there for years and seemed quite happy with the arrangement. It's my understanding that larger European cities still have those apartment hotels.

    I hadn't thought of it before, but the hotels may have been the precursor to the kind of retirement community where Lon is going to be living.
    I watched a documentary about retirement "hotels" for opera singers in Europe. At the start of it, retirement hotels for other entertainment/arts industries were mentioned; retired composers, retired ballet dancers and choreographers, etc. These people were once famous and/or revered and were now in their 70s to 90s, and all but forgotten until a woman whose name I forget wrote about some of them living poorly, sparking public interest and public demand that the government intervene. The result was the creation of the retirement hotels.

    There are retirement hotels in L.A. for actors. In general terms, they're called Industry Retirement Homes. Actors who join the Actor's Guild, basically an actors union, partially support them via their mandatory dues. Or, at least, that's my understanding. There's a retirement home for stunt men, too, that operates the same way. I met a guy in L.A. who belonged to the Stuntmans Guild (or something like that; also like a union) though his job it was only to move "stunt cars". That's what he did all day, park and re-park stunt cars, tow them in, tow them out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Horn View Post
    I have had two maids who also did home health care. They would stop at the client's home one or more times each day to take care of the client. I don't know the cost, but it can't have been more than what a "facility" charges for those services. The reason for this is to allow people to remain in their homes longer, ideally until their deaths. Most would consider this beneficial. In fact, there have been a number of changes in both Medicare and private insurance plans to make this possible.

    I had both hips replaced five years ago. While I was in the hospital for the first operation, I was bombarded by various staff members trying to convince me that I needed to go to the nursing home that they own (and which had many empty beds) for "rehabilitation." I refused their blandishments with contempt. One who had been well-trained in the art of frightening doddering old fools could barely contain her rage. I returned home where I live alone. My insurance covered the cost of a health aid as well as a physical therapist making thrice weekly trips to my home more than twenty miles from the hospital. They came on cold and snowy days without fail. It didn't cost me a nickel. The physical therapist came out for almost four months, the aid for a much shorter period. I'm good as new today.

    It would be wise for the OP to consult an appropriate physician regarding clinical depression. His statement about not wishing to perform normal household tasks is a real danger signal.
    No Clinical Depression for me. My reason for not wanting to do many household tasks is because of my personal comfort. Many of these tasks cause not only pain. but dis comfort to this aging body of mine. I don't believe that any of my posts since joining the Forum reflect depression of any kind. What the hell!! I no longer can or want to do many things that I could just 26 years ago, like Scuba Dive, Golf, White Water Rafting,Raquet Ball, Boccee Ball. etc. etc. A Man's Gotta Know His Limitations. (Clint Eastwood)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'nSacto View Post
    There are retirement hotels in L.A. for actors. In general terms, they're called Industry Retirement Homes. Actors who join the Actor's Guild, basically an actors union, partially support them via their mandatory dues. Or, at least, that's my understanding.
    There's an Actors Home in Englewood, New Jersey too. It looks like it might have been a wealthy family's mansion that was turned into a retirement home for actors.

    I read an article a while back about Stuart Damon, who played Alan Quartermaine on General Hospital for years. (He was also the prince in a non-animated fairy tale, maybe Snow White). His health was failing because he couldn't control his diabetes on his own. He went to live in an actors home in SoCal that provides medical care and a controlled diet. He's been doing well since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiling Jane View Post
    There's an Actors Home in Englewood, New Jersey too. It looks like it might have been a wealthy family's mansion that was turned into a retirement home for actors.

    I read an article a while back about Stuart Damon, who played Alan Quartermaine on General Hospital for years. (He was also the prince in a non-animated fairy tale, maybe Snow White). His health was failing because he couldn't control his diabetes on his own. He went to live in an actors home in SoCal that provides medical care and a controlled diet. He's been doing well since then.
    It'd be cool if all unions used a percentage of member dues to fund retirement homes for people in their industry. The Veterans Administration does, but the home my father could have lived in (in central California) was kind of crappy. Don't know if all of them are. I like to assume that isn't the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    No Clinical Depression for me. My reason for not wanting to do many household tasks is because of my personal comfort. Many of these tasks cause not only pain. but dis comfort to this aging body of mine. I don't believe that any of my posts since joining the Forum reflect depression of any kind. What the hell!! I no longer can or want to do many things that I could just 26 years ago, like Scuba Dive, Golf, White Water Rafting,Raquet Ball, Boccee Ball. etc. etc. A Man's Gotta Know His Limitations. (Clint Eastwood)
    I have a similar mindset, Lon. Except with me it's called "lazy as the day is long". Hey, if I don't want to do it and can afford to have it done for me - Shazzam!!! - I'm goin' that route.

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