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    a big D

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    I also have to go the D and a dash of A.

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    that'd be D

    as in Matthew 5:45
    'He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.'
    “Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.” Emerson

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    what about Genesis chapter one - the beginning??

    ch1 v1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth [notice the plural word heavens and the singular word earth of course - very significant] and verses 6-8 tells us why it will always rain! V 26 fascinates me time and time again - what a reflection and if true it tells us more about the God head and who she or he is??

    sorry I got carried away - an old preacher man I once worshiped with used to say " when you go into the bible and read earnestly it's like going into a gold mine and as you go deeper and dig deeper you discover unseen nuggets of gold - Amen!

    oops nearly forgot my post - gotta be B - in the beginning!! ya know someone once told me why she thought the earths center was a molten mass of lava and darn me I canny remember!

    God I wish I could read the bible in Hebrew - original texts that would be magic!
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    D dash A.
    Love is a verb.

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    D and a BIG dash of A.

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    a subsidiary question and option!! - authors privilege !

    do you think the original blue print and instructions for care of planet; livestock and plants has been observed and followed??

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    Quote Originally Posted by gumbud View Post
    a) caused by and should be rectified by humans
    b) Godly and cannot be controlled
    c) Satanic and cannot be controlled
    d) just the way the planet rolls
    e) another theory all together!
    E...another theory altogether. But I believe my source (Bible) is not theory but rather truth. I know my beliefs may make some uncomfortable but I have to be me. You don't have to read this (you may choose to move on)

    a) I agree. For example; Man's carelessness or meanness causes out of control campfires/arson leading to massive fires/rockslides(from erosion)
    For this, Man receives natural consequences

    b and c) I disagree. God does not cause disasters and can control what Satan causes and wants to destroy. Sometimes, however, God chooses not to stop it because of many many reasons...for example:

    1-He's testing us, shaping, and polishing our rough edges to bring us closer to being godly and ready for His Kingdom. Yet never perfect of course so we'll need a Savior (Christ)

    2-Death is not a bad thing in God's eyes because he's bringing Man home where there is love and all things good

    3-God is humbling us, bringing us to our knees, because sometimes it takes a disaster to get our attention that we need a Savior (Jesus suffered so we would have this option/gift/grace). No amount of material worldly possessions is as important as our life in eternity.

    d) I agree, according to God's perfect plan for his creation
    Last edited by Lara; 07-12-2018 at 02:12 AM. Reason: Added: "No amount of material worldly possessions is as important as our life in eternity."

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    D with nothing added.

    There's no way humans can cap volcanoes or stop earthquakes or tornadoes.

    And there's no way humans cause them in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camper6 View Post
    D with nothing added.
    There's no way humans can cap volcanoes or stop earthquakes or tornadoes.
    And there's no way humans cause them in any way.
    You are correct Camper about volcanoes and probably tornadoes,
    but not I think about all earthquakes.

    There have been sever recently in the UK, not a place where an
    earthquake is a common occurrence, they started some time ago
    and have been blamed on "Fracking", the name for "Hydraulic Fracturing.

    Here is a link to a Scientific report from 2011, there are many later reports,
    though not all from the UK.

    https://www.newscientist.com/article...kes-in-the-uk/

    Mike.
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    D with some A and as in Mike's post, I've always thought there was a definite relationship between fracking and earthquakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    You are correct Camper about volcanoes and probably tornadoes,
    but not I think about all earthquakes.

    There have been sever recently in the UK, not a place where an
    earthquake is a common occurrence, they started some time ago
    and have been blamed on "Fracking", the name for "Hydraulic Fracturing.

    Here is a link to a Scientific report from 2011, there are many later reports,
    though not all from the UK.

    https://www.newscientist.com/article...kes-in-the-uk/

    Mike.
    Yes I understand that but those earthquakes are not monumental. I can understand fracking causing plates to slip against each other because they pump water to get the oil or gas or whatever they are after.

    The worst earthquakes are cause by underwater events. They cause tsunamis. Those are really devastating and can't be forecast in time to avoid disasters.

    I do believe humans might be involved but I think the case against humans being a cause is overstated and people are starting to ignore the dire warnings and forecasts.

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    well the phenomena that has often puzzled me is that in the middle of this big round planet lies a seething mass of molten lava and gas and flames - as if we have our own sun on board but buried deep within. There have of courses been some classic films made about it with a sort of Indian Jones twist.

    Well that all aside is this just a remnant of the original ball of gas that broke away from the cosmos ; cooled off - became earth but still retains the central core for inner warmth??

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    I agree with Lara.

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