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The Tattoo Fad And Where It Comes From

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicRockr View Post
    Actually, the folks who don't like tattoos, don't give a hoot about how much you like them! They just don't like them and some will definitely express that and have on this forum...…….and not just myself.
    I have NO problem with you, or anyone else, expressing that they don't care for tattoos. What *I* object to is your rabid insistence that others think like you do. You seem to be personally offended about tattoos, as though those of us who sport them are being disrespectful or rude to you or something, and trying to change the minds of the folks who either don't care one way or another, or actually like tattoos. I read your posts, and continue to be left with the distinct impression that you are working to win over others to your side, your view, your opinion. And that if we don't think like you do, we're wrong, or warped, or off or something. It's subtle and nuanced, but definitely there.

    It's disconcerting and off-putting.




    The folks that dislike them have to put up with the part of society that has them, but some will voice that dislike, while the folks that like/love them have to put up with the verbal of those that dislike them.

    Nobody is in anyone's face here. Just stating what they like and dislike. If you are covered head-to-toe in tattoos, that's your thing, but you have to be ready for those comments that are against them. Just like the folks that don't like them have to be ready for the comments of those that love them.

    If that were all that was going on, I doubt this thread would be still going. But it's not and its disingenuous of you to pretend like that's all there is...you voicing that you don't like ink, and others voicing that they do. That's NOT what's happening. You are subtly insulting of the slice of society that like and/or get tattoos, and the implications that there's something wrong/off/bad with those folks are rampant, though covert, throughout this thread.

    Don't like ink? That is absolutely your prerogative and you are of course free to voice that. But just as I don't try and convince you to like them, please don't imply that everyone should think as you do.

    I don't have to be ready for the comments that are against them. I am completely ready for you or anyone else to tell me YOU don't like ink, but I am not, and never will be ready, for you to tell me all the reasons why *I* shouldn't have the ink I do, or shouldn't have or want more, or where they're placed or anything else. That, my friend, is MY business, NOT yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronni View Post
    I have NO problem with you, or anyone else, expressing that they don't care for tattoos. What *I* object to is your rabid insistence that others think like you do. You seem to be personally offended about tattoos, as though those of us who sport them are being disrespectful or rude to you or something, and trying to change the minds of the folks who either don't care one way or another, or actually like tattoos. I read your posts, and continue to be left with the distinct impression that you are working to win over others to your side, your view, your opinion. And that if we don't think like you do, we're wrong, or warped, or off or something. It's subtle and nuanced, but definitely there.

    It's disconcerting and off-putting.




    If that were all that was going on, I doubt this thread would be still going. But it's not and its disingenuous of you to pretend like that's all there is...you voicing that you don't like ink, and others voicing that they do. That's NOT what's happening. You are subtly insulting of the slice of society that like and/or get tattoos, and the implications that there's something wrong/off/bad with those folks are rampant, though covert, throughout this thread.

    Don't like ink? That is absolutely your prerogative and you are of course free to voice that. But just as I don't try and convince you to like them, please don't imply that everyone should think as you do.

    I don't have to be ready for the comments that are against them. I am completely ready for you or anyone else to tell me YOU don't like ink, but I am not, and never will be ready, for you to tell me all the reasons why *I* shouldn't have the ink I do, or shouldn't have or want more, or where they're placed or anything else. That, my friend, is MY business, NOT yours.
    I won't say you are right, but I do understand. There are those young folks that will tell their parents, who completely dislike and are shocked that their kid got a tattoo, "I no longer live at home, so I can now do whatever I want to." IOW, "my business, not yours".

    Listen, there will be those in society that don't like tattoos and those that love them. Both can very easily voice their opinions on the subject. A couple of tattoos is one thing, but an arm, leg, neck and even back full of them...…….now really, just how good looking is that. More "freakish" than good looking, to many.
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    Listen, there will be those in society that don't like tattoos and those that love them. Both can very easily voice their opinions on the subject. A couple of tattoos is one thing, but an arm, leg, neck and even back full of them...…….now really, just how good looking is that. More "freakish" than good looking, to many.
    And this right here is exactly what I'm talking about. You are completely free to voice your opinion that all that ink is freakish, just as I am free to disagree with that opinion. But don't, please, lump some random "other" or "many" into the mix.

    If your own personal opinion can't stand on its very own merits, if it requires you to bolster it or back it up with the vague and nebulous "others" or "many" then perhaps you need to re-think your opinion so that it's strong enough to stand on its own.
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    So - the subject of this very long thread is no longer tattoos, it is now obsessions. And criticisms of other's preferences and life styles.

    ClassicRocker, whether you like tattoos or not is entirely your own business. We all have our own tastes and preferences but it is generally considered a kindness to others to
    keep the negative opinions to ourselves. No one is harming anyone else by having a tattoo, it's their body, and therefore none of your business.

    It would make as much sense to keep obsessively ranting about other people coloring their hair, wearing loud makeup, men growing beards, etc. The list is endless. None of these
    things are anyone else's business, and it is just plain mean (and fight-provoking) keep making snarky comments about them.

    But you knew that. What is your complaint really about? I think it's more along the lines of "What's the matter with kids today?" Somebody even wrote a song with those lyrics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3PvcpWbUIg

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    Ahhh Sunny - thanks for digging up that Bye Bye Birdie clip of the late, ever-so great, Paul Lynde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny View Post
    So - the subject of this very long thread is no longer tattoos, it is now obsessions. And criticisms of other's preferences and life styles.

    ClassicRocker, whether you like tattoos or not is entirely your own business. We all have our own tastes and preferences but it is generally considered a kindness to others to
    keep the negative opinions to ourselves. No one is harming anyone else by having a tattoo, it's their body, and therefore none of your business.

    It would make as much sense to keep obsessively ranting about other people coloring their hair, wearing loud makeup, men growing beards, etc. The list is endless. None of these
    things are anyone else's business, and it is just plain mean (and fight-provoking) keep making snarky comments about them.

    But you knew that. What is your complaint really about? I think it's more along the lines of "What's the matter with kids today?" Somebody even wrote a song with those lyrics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3PvcpWbUIg
    Basically, nobody can really discuss anything without bringing negative things into the subject matter. Just ask those that don't like Trump. There are those that voted for him and love him and just the opposite. Same goes for tattoos and other odd things, that some would consider "not normal" that people do to themselves. When discussing these very (extremely?) controversial things, whether it be personal things people do to themselves, the President of the United States, or anything else, negativity almost always enters the topic.

    "It's their body", yes, but they, like others that do/deal with other things, many will disagree with "none of your business". People can always say "It's none of your business why I like Trump, what he stands for and I voted for him." But, even they get criticized for liking him. Criticism is basically all around us.
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    NOW, can we FINALLY end this thread! Some of you folks like, even love, tattoos, while others on this forum don't, and have stated just that. For this thread, it's plain and simple.........those that like them and those, including many in society, that don't.

    Can we END this thread now????
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicRockr View Post
    Can we END this thread now????






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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary O' View Post



    Precisely!!
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    StarSong, I especially like the lines:

    "Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way?
    What's the matter with kids today?"

    And that was written in 1961!

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    Sunny, Thanks for posting the Paul Lynde clip. I had never heard that. It was hilarious.

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    Give it a shot later cupcake
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    City Girl - it came from "Bye By Birdie" - a smash Broadway musical (and subsequent hit movie) inspired by the teenage hue and cry over Elvis Presley being drafted to serve in the US Army in 1958. The movie starred Ann Margaret, Janet Leigh, Dick Van Dyke, Bobby Rydell and the fabulous Paul Lynde. Not sure how many of them were part of the Broadway cast but based on the clip Sunny posted it appears at least Mr. Lynde did a NY stage turn.

    If you've never seen it, it's well worth the watch. I just verified that my library has several copies. Yours may, too. Don't know if it's on Netflix, but it isn't free on Amazon Prime at the moment.
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