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    Total victory


    I am curious as to how many on this forum consider the U.S. as "winning" the war in Europe?

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    My Dad fought in France and from the stories that I had been told and what I learned in history class and other books, I would have to believe that the U.S. played a huge role in the victory. The U.S. left a lot of bodies over there. Just look at the pictures of the American Cemetery in Normandy.
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    A photo of my dad and his brother in Sabres, France, May 1919. They had arrived in 1917 with he 42nd Engineers. My dad is third from the right and his brother far right.

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    Many folks felt that WWI was the war that would end all wars and time proved how wrong they were as WWII commenced 20 years later.

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    Had it not been for the US involvement in WWII, most of Europe would now be speaking German.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don M. View Post
    Had it not been for the US involvement in WWII, most of Europe would now be speaking German.
    You got that right, Don!

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    I would not count Russia out. Remember it was Joe Stalin calling the shots and he would never surrender to Hitler. Also, Hitler near death and insanity had a staff that would not pursue his dream of the conquest of the free world. America would have poured everything it had to support the war effort to crush Germany. Britain took care of the Luftwaffe and that was huge in defeating Germany.

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    It was called a world war for good reasons. It involved many nations and many theatres of war.

    As fmdog has pointed out, one of the nations was Russia. When Hitler opened the second front in June 1941 he effectively began his own destruction. Besides the European theatres there was also North Africa, South East Asia and the Pacific where the allies engaged not just Germany but also Italy and Japan.

    Winning the war was a team effort, not just an American victory but without doubt victory would not have been possible without America's entry into the war after Pearl Harbour in 1941. Australians remain grateful to US for coming to our aid at that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrigal View Post

    Winning the war was a team effort, not just an American victory .
    True but I doubt many Americans view it as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keesha View Post
    True but I doubt many Americans view it as such.
    On what basis would you make that statement, Keesha?

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    Well there have not been enough responses to get a good reference but it appears most believe the US did in fact win or play a major role in wwii. Oh and to those who posted about their fathers service my father was also in europe. But the truth of the matter is that the good ol boys from the US did not arrive in the major european theatre until very late in the war.

    Yes we did help, but we did NOT win that war. In fact we had fewer men on the ground then other countries, and that also applies to the pacific war. And so I wonder how many who answered did any research on just what impact the US actually had during wwii before posting an answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keesha View Post
    True but I doubt many Americans view it as such.
    You are correct. We convinced ourselves we were the great beacon of light for the entire world due to propaganda galore as if we alone defeated evil. Then Korea and Vietnam challenged that idea and taught us different. I recall all the stories we were taught in school as children about how great all of our heroes were as if they were as pure as holy water and that was amplified by TV. Not taking away from the enormous bravery/success our troops displayed in WWII but sacrifices were made by all nations in the fight to defeat Japan and Germany.

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    I'm one. I was THERE. Been there/done that.
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    I believe the allies defeated the Nazis & brought peace back to Europe. All the particulars can be argued till we are blue in the face....not much point to that, unless one or several of us happen to be actual experts.

    We should have maintained control over both Germany & Japan. Returning them to their own [so to speak] was a mistake .........jmo.

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    rgp; I wonder, what would we have done with those countries. And would it have been just as good an idea as patton proposed in the taking of russia as well. It was a team effort as mentioned and yes later engagements taught us some valuable lessons. And if you look now at our military status, you would see we rely way to heavy on less and less, while other nations strengthen theirs.

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    It was a team effort. Let's not forget the Poles who served in the British army. There were two RAF squadrons composed of Poles involved in the Battle of Britain.
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