Measles vaccination.

And I do feel strongly about what I have found works and many could benefit and that is why I talk about it as much as I do...can't help myself.
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...Or possibly hurt them!

We all know how you feel, why repeat it over and over?

Do you have a license to give medical advice?

Don't you realize un-vaccinated children can cause epidemics that can actually kill people?

These forums are read by many non-members. I would hate to think, that some of the less informed readers take your advice and have their health compromised by not taking medications that can keep them out of danger or even cause their early demise.

So your daughter believes her children's immune system was compromised by vaccinations. Is she a doctor? Otherwise why is that salient? And even if she is a doctor, there is no proof.
 

treeguy64 said:
I get a flu shot, every year. My sister passed away from pneumonia, this past January. She was put in a nursing home, after living as a near-hermit for most of her life. Her immune system was not used to being challenged by being around so many people. Had she been given the bacterial pneumonia vaccine, I believe she'd still be here. I had the old pneumonia shot, many years ago. I'll probably get the new one, this year.
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Sorry you lost your sister Treeguy, my condolences. :rose:
 
treeguy64 said:
I get a flu shot, every year. My sister passed away from pneumonia, this past January. She was put in a nursing home, after living as a near-hermit for most of her life. Her immune system was not used to being challenged by being around so many people. Had she been given the bacterial pneumonia vaccine, I believe she'd still be here. I had the old pneumonia shot, many years ago. I'll probably get the new one, this year.
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I'm sorry to hear that your sister died in a nursing home. If she was used to living as a hermit, she would have hated living in such a communal environment. That, in itself, would have caused a decline in her health.
 
Rosemarie said:
I'm sorry to hear that your sister died in a nursing home. If she was used to living as a hermit, she would have hated living in such a communal environment. That, in itself, would have caused a decline in her health.
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No doubt about that. She did adjust, made a few friends, but the fact that she was suddenly exposed to so many people, with so many germs, certainly contributed to her quick demise. I believe she was there about three weeks. I am very, very far away from where she lived, down the street from her daughter, my niece.
 
treeguy64 said:
I get a flu shot, every year. My sister passed away from pneumonia, this past January. She was put in a nursing home, after living as a near-hermit for most of her life. Her immune system was not used to being challenged by being around so many people. Had she been given the bacterial pneumonia vaccine, I believe she'd still be here. I had the old pneumonia shot, many years ago. I'll probably get the new one, this year.
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Condolences. Nursing homes are a tough environment physically and mentally. I've too may go into one and wind up depressed and just waiting to pass.

Pneumonia causes more trouble in seniors than other groups. I know some who their shot regularly including flu and pneumonia and they passed away from respiratory problems including pneumonia. One bad case of pneumonia can scar the lungs make things less efficient. Pneumonia in seniors is particulary hazardous because of the lack of inactivity which can keep fluid in lungs. Laying down with pneumonia or cough is one of the worst things one can do. With regular activity and therapy/exercise they showed more progress than with the mega doses of antibiotics and diuretics.
 
treeguy64 said:
I get a flu shot, every year. My sister passed away from pneumonia, this past January. She was put in a nursing home, after living as a near-hermit for most of her life. Her immune system was not used to being challenged by being around so many people. Had she been given the bacterial pneumonia vaccine, I believe she'd still be here. I had the old pneumonia shot, many years ago. I'll probably get the new one, this year.
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I've never been a fan of flu vaccines, only because I got one some years back and was so sick for weeks after. Never had the flu otherwise over the years.
But I really believe in the pneumonia vaccines, as I had two bouts of pneumonia as a teenager and was hospitalized the second time.
The vaccines didn't bother me at all, except for the sore arm for about 24 hours.

The two pneumonia vaccines recommended for seniors over 65 are Prevnar 13 and Pneumovax23 (the bacterial one) which work in different ways.

https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging...-pneumonia-vaccines-cdc-advisory-panel-says#1
 
Geezerette said:
i think some of the younger people on the board may not have had the experience as many of us "really" old folks have had, having someone they know contract polio and die or become crippled. Was thrilled when the polio vaccines were developed.
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Exactly. When I was 5,my best friend`s mom contracted polio. My eldest sister had babysat at their house the day she was diagnosed. My parents were pretty freaked out. Four little girls,all 5 and under. A two story house. Things were very,very difficult for her.

Later on,in 1967,I met a new friend of my sister`s at a party. She had a five year old son who was both blind and deaf. She was a Kindergarten teacher and contracted Rubella (German measles,3 day measles) when she was pregnant. This was only a year or so before the vaccine became available. Only a year later,his disabilities would have been entirely preventable.
 
Pepper said:
So, the gist is while you advise others to ignore, constrain and restrain, you never will. Not asking you not to, just pointing out the obvious.
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I'm not clear about what you are saying. If something doesn't interest me, I ignore it which is a lot. I'm into Prevention and anything I get my hands on about preventing nasty issues, I work with it and depending on how it's working in my body, I share with others who are of like mind.

On this measles thread I had measles as a child and believe back then had an MMR shot to get into first grade. I don't know what I'd do today if I were raising babies. I don't like those little ones pumped full of toxic vaccines. And we'll never know the real truth about all the autism.
 
Sassycakes said:
My daughter is a Pediatric RN. She had her daughter get all the vaccines . Her only stipulation was not to have more than one shot at a time as some Doctors do. She got each one at different times. When one of my other grandchildren was born he was in the NICU and before he got out the Doctors recommended we all get the shot for whopping cough and we did. Every parent has their own choice but I worry that those that choose not to get their children vaccinated may be exposing other children to becoming ill.
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And my daughter feels her young adult children have had issues due to too many vaccines.
 
Mrs. Robinson said:
I have not had a cold or flu in over 46 years. I am fully vaccinated. As far as flu,I am not willing to take a chance on getting it as last time I had it I thought I would die-and kind of wished I would!
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Choices, we all have them. Some prefer none of those toxins shot into the body and choose to work with nutritional supplements which there are 1000's.....

Bottom line is that many do not stray from pharma and many out there do and we can find many info links with all the damage done from the drugs...

I don't know why people need to get angry over other's choices... The huge population of our country does vaccines. You can find a lot of info on the dangers of them too...So believe what we do.
 
Keesha said:
I understand where you are coming from but others don’t want ‘your choice’ shoved in their face every chance you get even if grape seed oil is your miracle. It’s insulting to them. They are adults who can make their own choices and doing this is disrespecting their right to choose for themselves.

Im not hating on you or anything. I appreciate your holistic approach. It’s just not for everyone.:love_heart:
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Stating an opinion is not shoving anything into anyone's face. Neither is stating what works for them. You are obviously threatened by the opinions of others, unless they agree with yours....a classic controller.
 
win231 said:
Stating an opinion is not shoving anything into anyone's face. Neither is stating what works for them. You are obviously threatened by the opinions of others, unless they agree with yours....a classic controller.
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When you do it over and over again giving people medical advice when you aren’t quantified ......

It most certainly is!!!




 
win231 said:
Stating an opinion is not shoving anything into anyone's face. Neither is stating what works for them. You are obviously threatened by the opinions of others, unless they agree with yours....a classic controller.
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I’m not the least but threatened by reading opinions about holistic health since I’m a qualified holistic nutritionist with all the education. The very first thing we were taught while studying was to never give advice that contradicts a doctors. It’s one thing to make an independent post or thread about the subject; it ‘s an entirely different thing when you follow posters around lecturing them on an alternative option that they ‘should’ be taking or doing especially when they keep
saying they don’t want to read it.

That IS shoving it in peoples face.
 
Keesha said:
I’m not the least but threatened by reading opinions about holistic health since I’m a qualified holistic nutritionist with all the education. The very first thing we were taught while studying was to never give advice that contradicts a doctors. It’s one thing to make an independent post or thread about the subject; it ‘s an entirely different thing when you follow posters around lecturing them on an alternative option that they ‘should’ be taking or doing especially when they keep
saying they don’t want to read it.

That IS shoving it in peoples face.
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I'd love to hear suggestions from others on avoiding/reducing chances of cancers, alzheimers and dementia...but don't hear it here.
 
jaminhealth said:
I'd love to hear suggestions from others on avoiding/reducing chances of cancers, alzheimers and dementia...but don't hear it here.
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Because the thread was made by a man (treeguy) who just lost his sister, whom he figures may have been saved by a vaccine and how he explained it I tend to agree with him. He is the one who started this thread and stated all this in this thread. It’s a bit inconsiderate to keep going on and on about your ‘opinion,’ after these facts have been stated.

Its not your responsibility to educate members differently than what their doctor has adviced. If you DID have a license and were found doing such things, your license would be revoked.

It would be the equivent of Shalimar making posts suggesting people with mental disorders change or go off their meds; EXCEPT she actually has a degree.
Its actually against the law.
 
Agree, painting all medicines with a wide brush called "toxins" at every turn can end up misleading people.

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Because you don't have the education to guide people about healthcare. Can you not understand you may be causing harm?

Children are not pumped "full" of toxins". That in itself is a dangerous statement, leading people to believe they're poisoning their children!

Just because your daughter "feels" her children suffered in some way d/t vaccination, is meaningless and you're scaring people out of it. Who cares what your daughter "feels"? You need to give some proof; medical evidence

Throwing in the autism rumor is just another ignorant scare tactic of yours. If you have no evidence, you have some nerve using autism as another scare tactic against vaccination.

I hear you about Big Pharma, but Big Supp is now in the billion dollar a year range, mostly from the elderly who are trying desperately to keep a grasp on what's left of their lives.
 
RadishRose said:
Agree, painting all medicines with a wide brush called "toxins" at every turn can end up misleading people.

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Because you don't have the education to guide people about healthcare. Can you not understand you may be causing harm?

Children are not pumped "full" of toxins". That in itself is a dangerous statement, leading people to believe they're poisoning their children!

Just because your daughter "feels" her children suffered in some way d/t vaccination, is meaningless and you're scaring people out of it. Who cares what your daughter "feels"? You need to give some proof; medical evidence

Throwing in the autism rumor is just another ignorant scare tactic of yours. If you have no evidence, you have some nerve using autism as another scare tactic against vaccination.

I hear you about Big Pharma, but Big Supp is now in the billion dollar a year range, mostly from the elderly who are trying desperately to keep a grasp on what's left of their lives.[/QUOTE]

I'm not guiding anyone but speaking of what has worked to keep me off allergy and sinus drugs and out of the doctor's offices for these issues that many go to doctors for and buy the drugs which I did before 1995. If people want to take the drugs and go to doctors, more power to them, they can do that as the doctors need them for this business plans.

And when I leave this earth I'd like to have my mind, is that a wrong thinking?

And yes I'm glad Big Supp is giving Big Pharma some run for their money. Why shouldn't Big Supp make money too? At least they don't have 100,000's dying for drug interactions. I was in the ER from a pharma drug back in the 80's so I started to do my work.
 
You are influencing people in something too important; their lives, health and epidemics. It's not like you're giving fashion advice.

Would want to go back to the dark ages of pox? Every "cure" was natural back then. How about the bubonic plague, would that be enough for you to encourage prevention?
 
RadishRose said:
You are influencing people in something too important; their lives, health and epidemics. It's not like you're giving fashion advice.

Would want to go back to the dark ages of pox? Every "cure" was natural back then. How about the bubonic plague, would that be enough for you to encourage prevention?
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Everything I speak of is on the net if that means anything.
 

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