Normal living' will come months after vaccine, Fauci says;

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Normal living' will come months after vaccine, Fauci says;

While a race to a vaccine is widely considered the only path back to a pre-pandemic way of life, Dr. Anthony Fauci cautioned that a safe and effective vaccine will not immediately bring back normalcy.

A return to "normal living" — life without masks and physical distancing, where people can go to a movie or a large gathering without fear of becoming infected with COVID-19 — won't come until "several months" after a vaccine first arrives, Fauci, said on CNN.

The director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said infection rates need to drop dramatically, something expected after the months-long logistical nightmare of manufacturing hundreds of millions of vaccines and distributing them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...lorida-new-york-city-donald-trump/3465633001/
 

For those like dear husband and I, I'm not so sure we'll ever go back to the old way.

I personally like it this way, and logic tells me there are a high percentage of others who feel the same, so I'm a firm-believer in the idea that what we are seeing now will exist indefinitely with some.
 
I think that I'm at an age where this is my new normal.

I may get to the point where I only wear a mask during flu season but I will probably continue social distancing, avoid large gatherings and close contact with strangers for the rest of my life.

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Well, one thing that this COVID-19 situation has done is to help weed out my internet activities. I have permanently abandoned forums in which any discussion of COVID-19 is now banned because those in control feel it is too volatile. To me, those discussions have only served to bring into clear focus the true nature of those forums.

This forum, to me, seems to have kept a high level of civility, and that requires a certain amount of maturity and character, so lacking in much of our culture today. I am glad to have landed here, as it is rapidly becoming my only forum activity. I am not involved in social platforms such as Twitter, Facebook, and such at all.

As for the stay at home thing, that is pretty much us anyway, so that has been normal. The only thing that has changed for us is we have pretty much cut out local shopping aside from necessities. We have long limited ourselves to going out to eat once a week, and usually that is lunch. During this time, we probably go only once every two or three weeks at most. We may continue that, since going out to eat is expensive and is not a necessity to us.

Tony
 
tbeltrans said:
Well, one thing that this COVID-19 situation has done is to help weed out my internet activities. I have permanently abandoned forums in which any discussion of COVID-19 is now banned because those in control feel it is too volatile. To me, those discussions have only served to bring into clear focus the true nature of those forums.

This forum, to me, seems to have kept a high level of civility, and that requires a certain amount of maturity and character, so lacking in much of our culture today. I am glad to have landed here, as it is rapidly becoming my only forum activity. I am not involved in social platforms such as Twitter, Facebook, and such at all.

As for the stay at home thing, that is pretty much us anyway, so that has been normal. The only thing that has changed for us is we have pretty much cut out local shopping aside from necessities. We have long limited ourselves to going out to eat once a week, and usually that is lunch. During this time, we probably go only once every two or three weeks at most. We may continue that, since going out to eat is expensive and is not a necessity to us.

Tony
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I couldn't have said it better.
 
Becky1951 said:
I won't be going back to the old ways. No large gatherings of any kind. Social distancing and using hand sanitizer is now normal to me and will continue to me.

I haven't gone anywhere so only used a mask when son and daughter in law visited from OR in May.
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I will not be going back to my old ways either. I am content with this way now. I would be too concerned to return to normal. I do not trust it.
 
Hopefully, the trade-offs of some element of freedom for some element of security will be worth it. I suspect that, as with many such situations, it will only be with benefit of hindsight that we can really know. A lot of people in the medical community and government have had to make difficult decisions affecting millions of people, and with the politics involved, that gets to be rather dicey. I can honestly say that I am glad I am not in that position of having to make those calls.

Tony
 
tired of wearing masks and hearing the words "social distancing"... being alive is dangerous to our health... we can't possibly run or hide from every danger that comes along.. we can't live in fear forever... we can't cancel everything forever. I've pretty much had enough. this lock down has harmed more people including children and seniors probably more than anyone will ever know.
 
I already feel like I have been cheated out of a year and that isn't a good thing. I'm not one that likes to sit around and talk about the weather. I had some great plans for this summer and none of them came to fruition.

My wife bought a $10.00 raffle ticket from a band member at the local high school because they were invited to play in the Thanksgiving Day parade in New York, I believe. Now, that trip (not the parade, which I do not know the status of) has been cancelled and now some of the other people that bought tickets want their money back. My wife sent the school band's booster club a nice letter telling them to keep the money because she is sure that they will use it wisely. I was kind of surprised that some people would do that.
 
oldman said:
I already feel like I have been cheated out of a year and that isn't a good thing. I'm not one that likes to sit around and talk about the weather. I had some great plans for this summer and none of them came to fruition.

My wife bought a $10.00 raffle ticket from a band member at the local high school because they were invited to play in the Thanksgiving Day parade in New York, I believe. Now, that trip (not the parade, which I do not know the status of) has been cancelled and now some of the other people that bought tickets want their money back. My wife sent the school band's booster club a nice letter telling them to keep the money because she is sure that they will use it wisely. I was kind of surprised that some people would do that.
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I understand others point of view about wanting to get back out there and live. Its each persons perception of what Living a full life is. Some like the quiet stay at or around home with limited contact, keeping it small get together's, others want large venues to attend etc.

Personally I like sitting and discussing the weather, or grandchildren, or? What ever topic comes to mind with a small gathering. Just because some don't want to be in crowds or going someplace doesn't mean we are stagnate or missing out on Life. ;)
 
Becky1951 said:
I understand others point of view about wanting to get back out there and live. Its each persons perception of what Living a full life is. Some like the quiet stay at or around home with limited contact, keeping it small get together's, others want large venues to attend etc.

Personally I like sitting and discussing the weather, or grandchildren, or? What ever topic comes to mind with a small gathering. Just because some don't want to be in crowds or going someplace doesn't mean we are stagnate or missing out on Life. ;)
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My response isn't directed at the post you were commenting on, but instead your post did strike a more general observation that supports what you are saying (since you do describe my wife and I in your second paragraph :) )...

There is a couple in our condo association that borrow to buy everything - vacations, appliances, big pickup trucks, etc. They like to go to casinos quite frequently to go gambling. Of course, you only hear about it when they win and we wouldn't dare to ask the very practical question regarding how much they have lost to get to that small winning. The true answer lies in the fact that casinos are huge and very well appointed. The money has to come from somewhere to support those casinos.

Anyway, we live debt free and our interests are much more home centered. They tell us that we live boring lives. They neglect the fact that my wife and I individually traveled the world prior to meeting and getting married, that my career has taken me all over the world, and that we are actually quite happy to settle down for the later years.

There are people who like to live on the edge, betting their financial future on what they want right now, and to them, what those of us who live more conservatively do is rather boring. But this is just one extreme.

There is a whole spectrum between the extremes that most of us probably fit into over the course of our lives. What matters is that a given individual is comfortable with where s/he is at any point over the course of his or her life and if not, makes adjustments accordingly.

There is an old saying that "one man's meat is another man's poison", and that certainly holds true in this kind of situation. Not everybody chooses to live the same lifestyle, and that is fine. The only problem happens when one judges another's lifestyle by one's own definition. To me, that couple I described is living recklessly and at some point, will have some sort of financial comeuppance. But, then, that is me judging them by my own standards, not theirs. They may come out of it all just fine in the end. What do I know?

Tony
 
Even if it takes a couple of months, I'm fine with it. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to go back to at least some semblance of normality, but to each his own. I want to be able to get in an airplane again, eat at a buffet again, get on a cruise ship again, play bridge again, and hug every single one of my friends for dear life.
 
CarolfromTX said:
Even if it takes a couple of months, I'm fine with it. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to go back to at least some semblance of normality, but to each his own. I want to be able to get in an airplane again, eat at a buffet again, get on a cruise ship again, play bridge again, and hug every single one of my friends for dear life.
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I suspect that, while we all probably would like to go back to pre-COVID-19 ways, some of us have more easily adapted to the current situation due to our lifestyles not having to change much to adjust. While I am fine with my life as it is, I certainly wouldn't wish for anyone to have their activities limited by the virus or anything else.

Then again, there may be some who have discovered that they actually prefer more "alone time" than they realized before having it forced on them by current circumstance.

My point is that there could be a number of reasons that some of us have expressed being content with the way things are, but I doubt that any of us, in expressing this, would wish on anyone the limitations forced by the current situation.

We would all miss some of the things you mentioned in terms of person to person contact, whether we are still into travelling and that sort of thing or not. I did all my travel, mostly for work, in the first half of my life and am perfectly content to not do that anymore. We also don't go to buffets since for my wife, she wouldn't get much of her money;s worth due to health limitations. But being able to exchange hugs and that kind of thing, I doubt that any of us wouldn't miss that by now.

Tony
 
Run into the arms of death? Overstating it a bit, don't you think? And Nathan said to "get comfortable" with it. To me, that's giving up. And giving in. No, no, a thousand times no. In my county (Williamson County, Texas) there are 8,337 cases. There have been 135 deaths. That's a .01619228 percent death rate. Horrible for the families of the deceased. But pretty good odds for me. So not exactly running into the arms of death. To put this in perspective, when I had my cataract surgery, my doctor told me because of my "long eyes" I had an increased possibility of complications, increasing my odds to as much as 6 percent. It was a concern. I did it anyway. Best thing I ever did by the way. So I wear a mask when I'm out, socialize with a select few, and take my chances. I'm not going to criticize anyone for hunkering down. But I can't stand it when people just tell me to get used to it. Or, like your hyperbolic "run into the arms of death." Tsk.
 
CarolfromTX said:
Nope. Nope. Nope. I will never get "comfortable" with it. Never. It is not normal. But you give in, Nathan. Roll over and give in. Not me. I'm a fighter.
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You are a funny person. You go ahead and " fight", chase your fantasies or whatever makes you feel good about yourself. I deal with the real world head on, because reality is the only thing I can sink my teeth in.
 


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