Germany fears 100,000 new Covid cases a day in third wave

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Germany has concentrated its efforts on travellers from overseas after tourists took advantage of a dispensation to fly to Mallorca
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Germany’s third wave is likely to be the worst yet, with as many as 100,000 new cases a day, a senior government scientist warned today.

The public have been urged to refrain from indoor gatherings over Easter and mandatory tests will be imposed on everyone flying into the country from Tuesday as the authorities try to stop the pandemic from getting out of control.

The more aggressive B.1.1.7 coronavirus strain, first observed in southeast England, has torn through Germany just as it was beginning to reopen primary schools, kindergartens and non-essential shops after its second wave subsided.

The seven-day infection rate has climbed to 119.1 new cases per 100,000 people. This is half the current level in France and a fifth of that in Hungary.
 

We keep hearing about this so called South East England variant...( I live in the south east).. yet we've never seen it here. ..but then we hear about the new York Variant.. that everyone seemed to have got too...

Germany has got the right arse with us Brits as does the rest of Europe because we left them financially in the lurch when we left Europe.. if they'd vaccinated their people like we've vaccinated ours, and not held back, and also tried to block millions of Covid vaccinations reaching the UK , then this might not be happening..
 
I am beginning to think this is one of those Twilight Zone episodes in which the main character is stuck in a loop with a recurring dream of the same event over and over. He tries to tell the other people involved what is going to happen because he has seen it night after night, but they don't believe him since each night in the dream the other characters are continually showing up as the same people but in different roles so they don't carry over that knowledge from the previous night.

In our scenario though, we are simply stuck in the recurring bad dream and getting tired of seeing it over and over. Maybe if we didn't remember it from one day to the next, it wouldn't be so bad.

Tony
 
I think the fear of the economy collapsing was the main reason some countries kept their borders open, praying for herd immunity, it makes you wonder if we can ever come back from the devastating debt we now find ourselves in.
 
mellowyellow said:
I think the fear of the economy collapsing was the main reason some countries kept their borders open, praying for herd immunity, it makes you wonder if we can ever come back from the devastating debt we now find ourselves in.
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Agree re the first part of your initial comment ... as for the debt, who knows when most countries are in the same boat. Maybe there needs to be a "Reckoning Day" when all debts are wiped and we start again. Personally, I rate keeping alive over debt.
 
RnR said:
Agree re the first part of your initial comment ... as for the debt, who knows when most countries are in the same boat. Maybe there needs to be a "Reckoning Day" when all debts are wiped and we start again. Personally, I rate keeping alive over debt.
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We'll never see the day... too much greed and upper-echelon feeding from the coffers and troughs.

As the bottom-feeders that we are, we'll continue to be at the brunt and mercy of our governing parties, and in keeping with history, the rich will continue getting richer due to their tax breaks, loopholes, and in through the backdoor deals, and the poor and working class will continue to be poor, losing even more ground, struggling harder to hold onto what we've got while we carry on picking up the tab for the wealthy.
 
mellowyellow said:
............The data suggests that low taxes on the rich bring economies little benefit. This suggests there is a strong economic case for raising taxes on the rich to help repair public finances following the pandemic.......
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/h...r-the-rich-dont-boost-the-economy-11608136674
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The debt is so extreme that taking every dime from ALL the "rich" wouldn't reduce it by more than 8% to 10%.

(Edit: and that figure is from 2019, before the first stimulus package. I'll see if I can find the reference/source.)
 
hollydolly said:
We keep hearing about this so called South East England variant...( I live in the south east).. yet we've never seen it here. ..but then we hear about the new York Variant.. that everyone seemed to have got too...

Germany has got the right arse with us Brits as does the rest of Europe because we left them financially in the lurch when we left Europe.. if they'd vaccinated their people like we've vaccinated ours, and not held back, and also tried to block millions of Covid vaccinations reaching the UK , then this might not be happening..
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They really are showing their true natures...petty, vindictive and spiteful. Even remainers are now looking at our exit in a new light.
 
Aunt Marg said:
We'll never see the day... too much greed and upper-echelon feeding from the coffers and troughs.

As the bottom-feeders that we are, we'll continue to be at the brunt and mercy of our governing parties, and in keeping with history, the rich will continue getting richer due to their tax breaks, loopholes, and in through the backdoor deals, and the poor and working class will continue to be poor, losing even more ground, struggling harder to hold onto what we've got while we carry on picking up the tab for the wealthy.
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And the working class/middle-class is rapidly shrinking.
 
Murrmurr said:
Less wasteful spending by gov't would be most helpful.
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True, like not invading other countries that are no threat to us.

Regarding Germany's covid problem, only about 10% of their population has been vaccinated, so there's going to be a high correlation between the increased infection rate and their death rate.

Here in the U.S., we're probably going to see a bump in covid cases but not much of an increase in deaths since our vaccination rollout is pretty good -- even ahead of schedule! That's not something you often hear about a government program!
 
Unless things have changed in Germany, since I was there decades ago, I can understand that nation having problems controlling this virus. When I was there, virtually ever Gasthaus (bar) was overflowing with customers imbibing that fantastic German beer.
 
They blamed our AstraZeneca vaccine for being:
1. Ineffective in over 65-year-olds.
2. Causing blood clots.

Both statements rubbished by their own medics,
now they are threatening to stop exports to other
countries that have a better vaccination record,
Macron hates us and is trying to stir things, yet
his own people are holding demonstrations to get
rid of him. Italy has already stopped a shipment
to Australia.

This is bordering on Political, but I don't want or
need an answer.

The above is for your information only.

Any political replies to this, Moderators, please
delete it and the reply.

Thank you

Mike.
 
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There was something in the local news in Omaha, NE that 100 cases of covid have been seen from one day care facility, apparently in the past week and a half, and that most are the new (to us) more contagious UK variant. So I wonder if we are going to have a general resurgence here.
Then yesterday the news said that anyone 18 yr and older can sign up for the covid vaccine (and not restricted to their own town/county). I have very mixed feelings about that, so far the vaccines have been for 65 yr and above (plus various essential groups of people), and I'm not sure it is fair to the 60 yr old people to now have to compete with all ages to get a vaccine.
 
J.B Books said:
They want you to be in fear. fear is control. They want to control you.
Wear a mask! Get a shot and prove you got one. Shut up and obey!
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This is exactly it and it will continue as long as it is successful. Also they're causing an imbalance and culture clash amongst people. If you don't do as you are told, you are considered a bad selfish person by those who do obey and the structure that supports a collective mentality. People who go along with all this media driven fear are praised for their compliance, made to feel that this is a mission larger than themselves, while anyone who even questions is considered little short of a narcissistic murderer.

But I have one very important question. This has been going on for over a year because we're told we can't let hospital staff become overwhelmed, we don't have enough ICU beds. In a year, wasn't there enough time for those in charge to get more staff and ICU beds so these Draconian measures and all this fearmongering would no longer be necessary? This is my question. And it leads me to believe perhaps there is another agenda here which is not being revealed to us.
 
Honestly I have to wonder if they'll ever get this thing under control. There's just too much going on with this virus and nobody will do what they're supposed to in order to help stop the spread so I don't know why this would surprise anyone. Might as well get comfy with your masks and embrace the isolation. If these variants blow through like they predict we're in a world of trouble. I'm waiting to see how things are gonna be when I return to work.
 
J.B Books said:
They want you to be in fear. fear is control. They want to control you.
Wear a mask! Get a shot and prove you got one. Shut up and obey!
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I have said this from the start, at least over here, everybody
that died, died from Coronavirus, not much else, nobody
died of Flu, or Pneumonia, the death rate from the virus had
to be in the high 90% range.

Most of the unrest and defiance about distance and masks
is all from younger people 45years and younger, another
mistake from the Government who stated that it is deadly
for Seniors, but not for youngsters.

Maybe that's why they are now talking about variants that
attack everybody, old and young alike, maybe there is no
variants, just another fear factor, to get masks on more faces
and distances apart kept as advised.

Mike.
 
MarciKS said:
Honestly I have to wonder if they'll ever get this thing under control. There's just too much going on with this virus and nobody will do what they're supposed to in order to help stop the spread so I don't know why this would surprise anyone. Might as well get comfy with your masks and embrace the isolation. If these variants blow through like they predict we're in a world of trouble. I'm waiting to see how things are gonna be when I return to work.
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That Marci, is the koolaid. Wear a Mask. Stay isolated. Another waive is coming! We are all in trouble!
Get a shot EVERY year. Another variant!
 


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