Scientists Create Part Human, Part Monkey Embryos

The article says they were not trying to grow organs or animals, just studying the cells for 19 days. It seems highly premature for the article to then go on and discuss what if one monkey had human sperm and another monkey had a human egg and how nobody wants a human in a monkey uterus. I mean seriously, sounds like intentionally imagining made-up outlandish nightmare stories to make the article click-bait-ish.
I think it would be great to find a way to ethically grow organs for transplant, especially if they can find a way to use a person's own cells to grow a perfectly compatible replacement organ. Though then I suppose rich people will have a whole bank of replacement organs and everyone else will just have to die on schedule.
 

Read the article & found this paragraph about ethics to be a little strange.

"Nobody really wants monkeys walking around with human eggs and human sperm inside them," said Hank Greely, a Stanford University bioethicist who co-wrote an article in the same issue of the journal that critiques the line of research while noting that this particular study was ethically done. "Because if a monkey with human sperm meets a monkey with human eggs, nobody wants a human embryo inside a monkey's uterus."

Since research is done in a controlled atmosphere it's doubtful monkeys would be released to "find" each other. I think the research to try to figure out the way to generate body parts is just another step forward. Organ transplants are common now, that was innovative & a step forward wasn't it?
 

This is "beyond the pale"...so disturbing that I can't even bring myself to laugh at any jokes posted.
It's just scary, wrong, sickening, and makes me so sad.
It sounds like man creating another species for the purpose of tearing it apart. Gross.
No one should ever fool with our Creator.
Alligatorob said:
Hope I don't live long enough to have to think about that one...
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I'm with @Alligatorob on this one.
 
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Really! I find that young people with all their tatoos, rings in their tongues & ear plugs are weird enough. I don't need anymore monsters. Hey, it's still 6.5 months until Halloween.
 
DNA is close but different. Scientists who have studied embryo development from the two species have observed that the brain of the human embryo developed twice as much during the same stage of development in the womb as the chimpanzee. The brain is an organ so why wouldn't the other organs likewise be inferior in their development?
 
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Ethicists have the following concern: "The biggest concern, they said, is that someone could try to take this work further and attempt to make a baby out of an embryo made this way. Specifically, the critics worry that human cells could become part of the developing brain of such an embryo — and of the brain of the resulting animal."
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Pretty sure its already been done

At least Steve Buscemi is a good argument

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Weren't they using baboon hearts, pig and cow heart valves as implants in humans back in the....80s?

They raise all kinds of animals for slaughter for food, and we ALL eat them.

Where is raising an animal for body part harvesting any different?

That said, I don't like the idea of cross species genetic engineering, but it's probably already happened in some lab years ago.
 
I don't understand why this is even a thing when they can take a sample of your DNA and literally grow more DNA.

Remember when scientists grew a human ear on a mouse's back using cartilage cells from a cow? That was in the 90s. In this decade they grew edible meat from the muscle cells of a cow (or steer?). They ate steak from a bovine that's still walking around.
 
Nathan said:
Weren't they using baboon hearts, pig and cow heart valves as implants in humans back in the....80s?

They raise all kinds of animals for slaughter for food, and we ALL eat them.

Where is raising an animal for body part harvesting any different?

That said, I don't like the idea of cross species genetic engineering, but it's probably already happened in some lab years ago.
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We don't ALL eat them. I have a couple of friends who are vegetarians and I'm sure there are many in the world. My middle grandson said he's heading that route. My son stopped eating beef and pork over 30 years ago. I stopped eating pork for about as long and very rarely eat beef and other red meat. I remember when my son stopped eating beef and pork, the eczema that had been on his stomach cleared up completely.

Hopefully I'll never need animal parts but they wouldn't be able to implant that of a pig in my body. I have no doubt that some "mad scientist" somewhere would try to take things too far and get involved in cross species engineering just like in the movie Species. We don't know what's going on in these labs and I doubt all scientists are concerned with ethics so I wouldn't be suprised if you statement "but it's probably already happened in some lab years ago." is right.
 
Murrmurr said:
I don't understand why this is even a thing when they can take a sample of your DNA and literally grow more DNA.

Remember when scientists grew a human ear on a mouse's back using cartilage cells from a cow? That was in the 90s. In this decade they grew edible meat from the muscle cells of a cow (or steer?). They ate steak from a bovine that's still walking around.
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Thinking about the evolution of humans from cave dwelling to now & the thought process that God has a plan for all of us. Why then would doing this be any less part of the plan?

Seems to me a bit wrong for those against advancing human lifespan & the chance for improving those dying from some organ malfunction to judge what clearly is ongoing evolution.

Then there is the continued increase in human population & the decrease in resources to survive. What may be deemed unethical now will be what helps remaining humans survive 150 years from now.
 
Knight said:
Thinking about the evolution of humans from cave dwelling to now & the thought process that God has a plan for all of us. Why then would doing this be any less part of the plan?

Seems to me a bit wrong for those against advancing human lifespan & the chance for improving those dying from some organ malfunction to judge what clearly is ongoing evolution.

Then there is the continued increase in human population & the decrease in resources to survive. What may be deemed unethical now will be what helps remaining humans survive 150 years from now.
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I'm not judging the ethics, though; I don't have the education to judge science. I said I don't understand - why are they taking this approach when I've read about and seen on video what looks like same or very similar results through other (might even say less god-like) methods? And again, I only have an interest in science, so I could be way off, but growing DNA and DNA splicing seem like more viable methods to me.

But maybe I'm not clear on what the ultimate goal is.
 
Murrmurr said:
I'm not judging the ethics, though; I don't have the education to judge science. I said I don't understand - why are they taking this approach when I've read about and seen on video what looks like same or very similar results through other (might even say less god-like) methods? And again, I only have an interest in science, so I could be way off, but growing DNA and DNA splicing seem like more viable methods to me.

But maybe I'm not clear on what the ultimate goal is.
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My post wasn't directed at you on a personal level. The content you posted seemed to me to be this "new revelation" about what science is working with as you pointed out is an extension of other research.

Then there is the judgement of what is taking place. How do those that make negative judgement know this isn't part of God's Plan" ? Surely a supernatural being billions of years old that supposedly sits somewhere watching what he created continue to evolve this latest would be part of the "plan".
 
Knight said:
My post wasn't directed at you on a personal level. The content you posted seemed to me to be this "new revelation" about what science is working with as you pointed out is an extension of other research.

Then there is the judgement of what is taking place. How do those that make negative judgement know this isn't part of God's Plan" ? Surely a supernatural being billions of years old that supposedly sits somewhere watching what he created continue to evolve this latest would be part of the "plan".
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No problem. I didn't take it as offensive or anything, I just wanted to clarify where I was coming from.

As for divine plans and purposes... yep.
 


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