US is diversifying, white population shrinking

Irwin

Irwin

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The U.S. became more diverse and more urban over the past decade, and the non-Hispanic white population dropped for the first time on record, the Census Bureau said Thursday as it released a trove of demographic data that will be used to redraw the nation’s political maps.​
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The share of the non-Hispanic white population fell from 63.7% in 2010 to 57.8% in 2020, the lowest on record, driven by falling birthrates among white women compared with Hispanic and Asian women. The number of non-Hispanic white people shrank from 196 million in 2010 to 191 million.​
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Much of the recent Hispanic immigration is from Central American countries. People are fleeing the violence and poverty, some of which is the result of U.S. interventions in their elections and even deposing democratically elected leaders when they didn't prostrate to U.S. corporations (not to be confused with prostate, which when enlarged, causes men to spend an inordinate amount of time in the bathroom, and then they have a UroLift procedure that doesn't work. Or so I am told.).
 

I worry about the increase in the power of the church. Every country south of the U.S. border is highly religious, which is a major reason for their backward cultures, or their backward cultures make them highly religious. Either way, they're bringing those practices to the U.S. in large numbers. They don't practice responsible birth control or place a high value on education — not all, of course, but a significant portion of their population. That doesn't bode well for our country.
 
Irwin said:
I worry about the increase in the power of the church. Every country south of the U.S. border is highly religious, which is a major reason for their backward cultures, or their backward cultures make them highly religious. Either way, they're bringing those practices to the U.S. in large numbers. They don't practice responsible birth control or place a high value on education — not all, of course, but a significant portion of their population. That doesn't bode well for our country.
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Highly offensive, bigoted comment. Anti-Catholic but also anti-Latino.

"Backward cultures?" Really? I would prefer expanded legal immigration, but most of the Latin immigrants I see work hard, stick together as families and stay out of trouble. We could use a dose of their work ethic, and their family values wouldn't hurt either.
 
Irwin said:

US is diversifying, white population shrinking​

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I saw that in the news too, and it is interesting. However as part of that shrinking white population I am not too concerned about this. Throughout the history of the US we have absorbed all kinds of emigrants and I believe are a better place for it. There was a time when people were worried about too many of my Irish ancestors moving in and taking over. Instead we just became a part of the melting pot. And I believe much of the reason we are the strongest and most successful country in the world (my opinion) has been this process.

What I do worry about, that is related, is population growth, just numbers. I think we have enough people here, maybe too many, its getting too crowded. That is the reason I believe we need to better control immigration. The color, accent or religion of the folks who live here worries me not. I enjoy the diversity of foods we have!
 
JimBob1952 said:
"Backward cultures?" Really? I would prefer expanded legal immigration, but most of the Latin immigrants I see work hard, stick together as families and stay out of trouble. We could use a dose of their work ethic, and their family values wouldn't hurt either.
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Hear! Hear!

Heh, wonder how my family would be categorized
Hispanic, native American, black, caucasian, and who knows what else.....



A portion of my relatives came up
Walked the desert at night
Worked jobs no others would take
Lived places no others would live
Became self-taught master carpenters
Built businesses
They are not the exception
I worked along side illegals in Houston and border towns
I consider myself a hard worker
I wish I worked as hard as they do

No, they’re not like the Europeans and Anglos that came over, wiping out, slaughtering whole peoples, my wife’s relatives.....
They just want a better life

Drug lords, smugglers? Get real.
There’s some, yes, promoted by, guess who?

Who do we think we are in this ‘free country’?

Give us your poor?

Best take that ol’ gal down while yer blowing bile
 
Pepper said:
Oy vay Annie give it a rest. You did not understand I was being sarcastic. If there's one subject I still know a lot about it's this one. Thank you.
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I know, but it the Catholics @Irwin is so concerned about are aborting as well. I had no idea the Hispanic rate was more per %population than White women. I already knew the Black figures because of reading from time to time through the years that some Black activists see their abortion rate as White promoted genocide.
 
AnnieA said:
I know, but it the Catholics @Irwin is so concerned about are aborting as well. I had no idea the Hispanic rate was more per %population than White women. I already knew the Black figures because of reading from time to time through the years that some Black activists see their abortion rate as White promoted genocide.
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You only just now heard about the browning of America? Where have you been?
 
JimBob1952 said:
Highly offensive, bigoted comment. Anti-Catholic but also anti-Latino.
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Although blunt, I don't think Irwin was expressing bigotry(OK Irwin, help me out here) or was being anti-Catholic or anti-Latino. Certainly blunt . Looking at the areas of the world that are predominately Catholic, it's easy to see that the populace are predominately poor and uneducated Hispanics. It's a matter of debate as to whether there is a correlation between poverty stricken Hispanic populations, and the influence the Catholic Church has in these regions. Corrupt governments play a role in this scene as well.

JimBob1952 said:
I would prefer expanded legal immigration, but most of the Latin immigrants I see work hard, stick together as families and stay out of trouble. We could use a dose of their work ethic, and their family values wouldn't hurt either.
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Yes, agreed & agree wholeheartedly.
 
Alligatorob said:
I saw that in the news too, and it is interesting. However as part of that shrinking white population I am not too concerned about this. Throughout the history of the US we have absorbed all kinds of emigrants and I believe are a better place for it. There was a time when people were worried about too many of my Irish ancestors moving in and taking over. Instead we just became a part of the melting pot. And I believe much of the reason we are the strongest and most successful country in the world (my opinion) has been this process.

What I do worry about, that is related, is population growth, just numbers. I think we have enough people here, maybe too many, its getting too crowded. That is the reason I believe we need to better control immigration. The color, accent or religion of the folks who live here worries me not. I enjoy the diversity of foods we have!
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This sort of falls in line with my thoughts on immigration reform. Back when America was fairly new and most of the population was immigrants, the government sponsored farmland give-aways; you claim it, you own it, you farm it. Like, in exchange for a big piece of America, it's your family's job to help feed America. For immigrants who don't want to farm we need some sort of Work For The US program; free training in fields like technology, the sciences, blue-collar jobs....critical stuff. This would probably be cheaper than food stamps, free medical, welfare checks, and 10+ years of INS legal services.
 
There has been a "Latino" interests group called La Raza (the race) for several years, who claim that the entire SW portion of the U.S. was taken illegally from Mexico during the Mexican American war in the mid 1800's. They refer to this region as Aztlan, and their goal is to return that region to Mexico. Since such a move is politically unlikely, it appears that the next best method is to populate that area with enough Latino's such that Aztlan will become a "de facto" Mexican State.

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Don M. said:
There has been a "Latino" interests group called La Raza (the race) for several years, who claim that the entire SW portion of the U.S. was taken illegally from Mexico during the Mexican American war in the mid 1800's. They refer to this region as Aztlan, and their goal is to return that region to Mexico. Since such a move is politically unlikely, it appears that the next best method is to populate that area with enough Latino's such that Aztlan will become a "de facto" Mexican State.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=aztlan+map&fr=yset_chr_syc_hp-s&type=hpsetv2Aug27&imgurl=https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/8a/68/d78a6819022b6f75cfd568b7c13c02b5.png#id=1&iurl=https://i.pinimg.com/original
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Refer to:
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The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (Spanish: Tratado de Guadalupe Hidalgo), officially titled the Treaty of Peace, Friendship, Limits and Settlement between the United States of America and the Mexican Republic, is the peace treaty that was signed on 2 February 1848, in the Villa de Guadalupe Hidalgo (now a neighborhood of Mexico City) between the United States and Mexico that ended the Mexican–American War (1846–1848). The treaty was ratified by the United States on 10 March and by Mexico on 19 May. The ratifications were exchanged on 30 May, and the treaty was proclaimed on 4 July 1848.

With the defeat of its army and the fall of its capital in September 1847, Mexico entered into negotiations with the U.S. peace envoy, Nicholas Trist, to end the war. On the Mexican side, there were factions that did not concede defeat or seek to engage in negotiations. The treaty called for the United States to pay US$15 million to Mexico and to pay off the claims of American citizens against Mexico up to US$5 million. It gave the United States the Rio Grande as a boundary for Texas, and gave the U.S. ownership of California and a large area comprising roughly half of New Mexico, most of Arizona, Nevada, Utah and Colorado. Mexicans in those annexed areas had the choice of relocating to within Mexico's new boundaries or receiving American citizenship with full civil rights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo

The U.S. Senate advised and consented to ratification of the treaty by a vote of 38–14. The opponents of this treaty were led by the Whigs, who had opposed the war and rejected manifest destiny in general, and rejected this expansion in particular. The amount of land gained by the United States from Mexico was further increased as a result of the Gadsden Purchase of 1853, which ceded parts of present-day southern Arizona and New Mexico to the United States.
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Nathan said:
Although blunt, I don't think Irwin was expressing bigotry(OK Irwin, help me out here) or was being anti-Catholic or anti-Latino. Certainly blunt . Looking at the areas of the world that are predominately Catholic, it's easy to see that the populace are predominately poor and uneducated Hispanics. It's a matter of debate as to whether there is a correlation between poverty stricken Hispanic populations, and the influence the Catholic Church has in these regions. Corrupt governments play a role in this scene as well.
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I had to check to make sure, but I didn't mention any specific religion, but now that you mention it, when you consider all the priests sexually abusing young boys and the Catholic church's support for Hitler, Franco, and Mussolini during WWII, well, that's not a good thing (to put it mildly :ROFLMAO: ). And then there was the Inquisition and the Dark Ages...

But I don't want to single out Catholics. Most religions have a sordid history. Strong belief in things that have no proof tend to make people do horrible things.
 
Irwin said:
But I don't want to single out Catholics. Most religions have a sordid history. Strong belief in things that have no proof tend to make people do horrible things.
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My view: Although being Christian I do recognize the horrible things humans have done to other humans in the name of God. That doesn't detract from the message Jesus intended to convey to the World, just reflects on the fallibility of people.
 
Don M. said:
There has been a "Latino" interests group called La Raza (the race) for several years, who claim that the entire SW portion of the U.S. was taken illegally from Mexico during the Mexican American war in the mid 1800's. They refer to this region as Aztlan, and their goal is to return that region to Mexico. Since such a move is politically unlikely, it appears that the next best method is to populate that area with enough Latino's such that Aztlan will become a "de facto" Mexican State.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=aztlan+map&fr=yset_chr_syc_hp-s&type=hpsetv2Aug27&imgurl=https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/8a/68/d78a6819022b6f75cfd568b7c13c02b5.png#id=1&iurl=https://i.pinimg.com/original
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I don't understand how Spanish Mexicans can lay claims to any land in the Americas since the Spanish subjugated the native American Aztecs in the 1500s and created Mexico as a Spanish colony. The U.S. simply took some of the land that the Spanish took from the Aztecs. That's what happens in war.
 
Nathan said:
My view: Although being Christian I do recognize the horrible things humans have done to other humans in the name of God. That doesn't detract from the message Jesus intended to convey to the World, just reflects on the fallibility of people.
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I'm still not convinced Jesus ever existed since there is no firsthand account of his life. I'm in the process of learning more about him and whether he was just created by the Romans in an attempt to pacify the Jewish people.
 
Irwin said:
I had to check to make sure, but I didn't mention any specific religion, but now that you mention it, when you consider all the priests sexually abusing young boys and the Catholic church's support for Hitler, Franco, and Mussolini during WWII, well, that's not a good thing (to put it mildly :ROFLMAO: ). And then there was the Inquisition and the Dark Ages...

But I don't want to single out Catholics. Most religions have a sordid history. Strong belief in things that have no proof tend to make people do horrible things.
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Right. And non-religious movements such as fascism and communism have even more sordid histories.

Your analysis is about an inch deep. Without Catholic monks preserving the knowledge of Greece and Rome, we never would have emerged from the "Dark Ages" (although there is a lot of debate right now as to whether there really were "Dark Ages". ) Concepts such as charity and respect for women are Judeo-Christian in origin. I could go on, but why bother.
 
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