Prince Andrew sued by accuser (Epstein scandal)

I don't expect this to ever get to court. Andrew can tie this up for decades in legal wrangling. It'll cost a fortune to kept all those lawyers fed and happy, but mummy has been saving her pennies. Most probably the Plaintiff ,Virginia L. Giuffre, will run out of funds long before he does, and the suit will be moot.
 

Colleen said:
Come on...you're telling me that at 17 years old she didn't know right from wrong? She was flattered and enamored to be with a Royal. She saw dollar signs and probably fantasized about being his mistress. She's not so innocent as she would like everyone to think. HOWEVER....Edward is a lying coward, IMO. Nothing will happen to him because of who he is. Justice never comes to those who can afford to pay their way out of situations. We have a good example of that here in the US. All I can say about justice is.....we all will die some day and meet our Maker and stand before Him and we will be judged. Their lies and money won't get them out of it then.
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As a victim of sexual harassment, I felt the need to edit the first paragraph of your post. It sounds more just in my head.

"Come on...you're telling me that at 32 years old he didn't know right from wrong? He was horny and enamored to be with a teenager who was half his age. He saw "virgin signs" and probably fantasized about being her master He's not so royal as he would like everyone to think."

I wish people would understand that victim blaming makes it hard for victims to come forward.
 
Jennina said:
As a victim of sexual harassment, I felt the need to edit the first paragraph of your post. It sounds more just in my head.

"Come on...you're telling me that at 32 years old he didn't know right from wrong? He was horny and enamored to be with a teenager who was half his age. He saw "virgin signs" and probably fantasized about being her master He's not so royal as he would like everyone to think."

I wish people would understand that victim blaming makes it hard for victims to come forward.
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hmmm this is a difficult one because as a victim myself I understand her..altho' I was much younger.. and she was almost the age of consent... however, she was not a Virgin.. so I don't believe there was any fantasy for a virgin on PA's part... she was already a highly paid prostitute... I just believe that Epstein & Maxwell were Brothel keepers and that's where PA and many, many well known figures from Politics, and the Entertainment world went to satisfy their sexual urges..
 
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hollydolly said:
hmmm this is a difficult one because as a victim myself I understand her..altho' I was much younger.. and she was almost the age of consent... however, she was not a Virgin.. so I don't believe there was any fanatsy for a virgin on PA's part... she was already a highly paid prostitute... I just believe that Epstein & Maxwell were Brothel keepers and that's where PA and many, many well known figures from Politics, and the Entertainment world went to satisfy their sexual urges..
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Sorry to hear that you had been victimized too. Did it also cross your mind that it might be your fault? Or no one would believe you? It's weird what goes through our minds while the harassment is happening. And it's largely because society is quick to blame the victim esp if the victim is a woman.

I stand corrected on the virgin bit. You're right about him not fantasizing about her being a virgin. The girl said she was asked to do "stuff."

I don't know the law. But isn't sexual abuse a crime whether she's 17 or 70? Whether she's a hooker or his wife?/

It crossed my mind too that maybe she was just after his money. But then again, does that make sexual abuse less of a crime?

I'm not saying that at 17, she was pure and innocent. But she was groomed when she was.

Some people are blaming the younger person who is old enough in some countries and too young in others to have sex. I prefer to hold the person who is old enough in any country to understand the law responsible.
 
Jennina said:
As a victim of sexual harassment, I felt the need to edit the first paragraph of your post. It sounds more just in my head.

"Come on...you're telling me that at 32 years old he didn't know right from wrong? He was horny and enamored to be with a teenager who was half his age. He saw "virgin signs" and probably fantasized about being her master He's not so royal as he would like everyone to think."

I wish people would understand that victim blaming makes it hard for victims to come forward.
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You got it in one jennina.......exactly ......!!
 
What a sad case of a man , that can’t even admit his mistakes, and is a damn liar , that involves his ex wife and children to lie for him....and as mummy’s spoilt favourite, he thinks he can get away with it.....and do you know what ? He will .....!!
 
OK, Andrew has been served as of today. I still would have to ask in a court of law, why Andrew and not any of the men before he came down the pike nor any of the men thereafter? She admitted she'd been having sex for a few years prior to allegedly meeting the prince. I'd also have to ask why now? When it allegedly happened she should have been shouting to the roof tops considering who he is. There would have been proof positive and certainly heaps of money in it for her at the time. When one waits all these years and especially, one with a questionable sexual history to make these claims, it appears to be just what it is. Fame and a shakedown for money. I doubt this will get into the courts. The royals will make a monetary offer to stop all the salacious gossip. I do not condone rape at all, and I've had patients come into the E.R. to be treated after being raped. All have pressed charges at that time. To wait only gives the victim more time to hurt and allow the perpetrator to get away with it.
 
charry said:
What a sad case of a man , that can’t even admit his mistakes, and is a damn liar , that involves his ex wife and children to lie for him....and as mummy’s spoilt favourite, he thinks he can get away with it.....and do you know what ? He will .....!!
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We had a golden opportunity in 1649, nine years later, following Cromwell's death, we restored the monarchy. An opportunity lost.
 
OK, Andrew has been served as of today.

But has he?

You know you own law best, but I can't see that handing papers to somebody who happens to be standing at the front gate constitutes proper service.

Surely there is a requirement to show that the person is an authorised, or at least a legally recognized, representative of the defendant?
 
Laurie said:
OK, Andrew has been served as of today.

But has he?

You know you own law best, but I can't see that handing papers to somebody who happens to be standing at the front gate constitutes proper service.

Surely there is a requirement to show that the person is an authorised, or at least a legally recognized, representative of the defendant?
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he wasn't served with the papers.. a security chief, at Windsor Castle accepted the papers...
 
Her lawyers say they were served on 27 August, being left with a police officer at Windsor's Royal Lodge.
Prince Andrew denies all the claims made by Ms Giuffre.

A spokeswoman representing the Duke of York has declined to comment on the latest development.
A US judge must determine whether the papers were in fact "served" before any case can proceed.
 


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