More countries to end covid restrictions.

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Rah-Rah said:
Yes, I believe that was back in 1918 and I doubt they did not have the medical technology that they have now back then. Regardless that must have been horrible.
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When you really think about it, 1918, there were probably many more then that who died from it.

In 1918 most rural area's, country area's still traveled by horse, or horse and buggy or wagon. Went to town once a month for the supplies they didn't raise themselves. A person could catch it and spread it to their family and anyone they talked with and never know it was the "Spanish flu". Families doctored their own, buried their own, their numbers may never have been counted.
 
I work in the medical field where we follow CDC guidelines. The latest for health care providers who get sick with Covid is "Stay home for 5 days and then come back to work. A negative test result is not required." I think the medical industry is just tired of the whole pandemic plus there is a shortage of workers, so employers are desperate to have all hands on deck.
 

Rah-Rah said:
True, but the last time I checked millions of people have not died from the common cold or flu. Also Coronavirus and the common cold is not the same, but are both of course caused by viruses. The are caused however by two separate viruses. The Coronavirus by SARS-CoV2, while the common cold by the rhinoviruses.
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If that number was accurate......
 
win231 said:
If that number was accurate......
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The thing is there has to be some sort of statistics to go by. People can either choose to believe them or not. It seems like a certain part of the population believes that and another does not and it is all driven unfortunately by something that it should never have been driven by in the first place.
 
MMinSoCal said:
I work in the medical field where we follow CDC guidelines. The latest for health care providers who get sick with Covid is "Stay home for 5 days and then come back to work. A negative test result is not required." I think the medical industry is just tired of the whole pandemic plus there is a shortage of workers, so employers are desperate to have all hands on deck.
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So in other words if on day 6 your still infected it's OK to spread it.
 
Rah-Rah said:
The thing is there has to be some sort of statistics to go by. People can either choose to believe them or not. It seems like a certain part of the population believes that and another does not and it is all driven unfortunately by something that it should never have been driven by in the first place.
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"It is all driven unfortunately by something that it should never have been driven by."

Counting deaths of those who died of non covid reasons, died with, not of.


That alone causes mistrust of the numbers.
 
Aunt Bea said:
IMO there is nothing significantly different from last month, last week, or yesterday that would convince me that it's safe to let our guard down.

I'll continue taking the same basic precautions that we've been advised to use during the past two years.

It may be a positive sign that we are making some progress in accepting the virus as a part of our everyday lives.

We'll see.
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I agree with you!
 
Becky1951 said:
"It is all driven unfortunately by something that it should never have been driven by."

Counting deaths of those who died of non covid reasons, died with, not of.


That alone causes mistrust of the numbers.
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When we are talking over 5 million deaths worldwide listed as deaths by Covid that is still a tremendous amount of deaths. Let's say even 20% of those people on that list which is probably overestimating died of other causes that still leaves a considerable amount of deaths in just over 2 years due to Covid. That would come out to over 1 million patients not with Covid who passed away and over 4 million still dying from Covid. The 20% margin is way overestimating though.
 
MMinSoCal said:
CDC thinks it's OK!
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Unfortunately you are correct about after 5 days of isolation after being exposed or having Covid you can go back to work and are expected of course to wear a mask. The CDC has administered this policy basically to appease those who have been whining so much about keeping things open with relaxing the guidelines. My personal opinion is this is not the smartest recommendation they have made.
 
Rah-Rah said:
The thing is there has to be some sort of statistics to go by. People can either choose to believe them or not. It seems like a certain part of the population believes that and another does not and it is all driven unfortunately by something that it should never have been driven by in the first place.
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Covid exists. But the numbers are a crock.
 
Rah-Rah said:
When we are talking over 5 million deaths worldwide listed as deaths by Covid that is still a tremendous amount of deaths. Let's say even 20% of those people on that list which is probably overestimating died of other causes that still leaves a considerable amount of deaths in just over 2 years due to Covid. That would come out to over 1 million patients not with Covid who passed away and over 4 million still dying from Covid. The 20% margin is way overestimating though.
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Yes, "When we are talking over 5 million deaths.
Depends who's doing the talking. Some people who are lied to don't listen to who's talking. And some people know that if it doesn't make sense, it's not true.
 
Rah-Rah said:
Are you telling me that they are making up false death certificates and that many people have not died? If so, you have lost your mind.
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If you believe everything you're told, you're a programmed robot & don't have a mind, so you have nothing to lose.
(see how easy it is when you post like a child?)
 
win231 said:
You don't have a mind, so you have nothing to lose.
(see how easy it is when you post like a child?)
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Yes you are the King at it. I have been here two weeks and I have seen it all over the forum by you. Go ahead and jump on me all you want for the one remark that I have made, that thinking is rather silly. Then you jump on the people and make smart comments to the others who make one comment to you like you are all innocent. Well sir, you definitely are not.

I also believe I have exercised on here that I most definitely do have a mind and that I do not let others no matter what side of the fence they happen to stand on influence me. I make my own decisions based on what is occurring right in front of me. I have said that right from the start. I have said I will never let someone whether it be on this forum or Dr. Fauci or Dr. Malone, Joe Biden or Donald Trump or whoever influence my decisions. So most definitely I am not a programmed robot as you say.
 
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Rah-Rah said:
Yes you are the King at it. I have been here two weeks and I have seen it all over the forum by you. Go ahead and jump on me all you want for the one remark that I have made, that thinking is rather silly. Then you jump on the people and make smart comments to the others who make one comment to you like you are all innocent. Well sir, you definitely are not.
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"You have seen it all over the forum by me?"
Coming from someone who just said "I lost my mind."
As I said, you have nothing to lose.
 
Rah-Rah said:
Yes, I have seen you make several snarky comments to others then jump on the first one you see making one acting as though you are all innocent.
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Don't say I didn't warn you not to get caught up in the Covid threads. @win231 and I sparred constantly when I first joined but now I appreciate him despite our differences. He loves all animals, stands up for marginalized citizens, has a wicked sense of humor and is a renaissance man on the piano.

I've learned not to judge people solely by their stance on Covid, masks and vaccines. (Yes, there are still some that I can't tolerate. ;)) We are all multi-faceted. I have learned over the months that it really takes time to get to know someone in this forum on multiple levels. I'm so glad you are here. Please be careful to not get too far into the weeds!

https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/vaccines.65192/page-8#post-1904168
 
dseag2 said:
Don't say I didn't warn you not to get caught up in the Covid threads. @win231 and I sparred constantly when I first joined but now I appreciate him despite our differences. He loves all animals, stands up for marginalized citizens, has a wicked sense of humor and is a renaissance man on the piano.

I've learned not to judge people solely by their stance on Covid, masks and vaccines. (Yes, there are still some that I can't tolerate. ;)) We are all multi-faceted. I have learned over the months that it really takes time to get to know someone in this forum on multiple levels. I'm so glad you are here. Please be careful to not get too far into the weeds!

https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/vaccines.65192/page-8#post-1904168
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I agree with you as I have enjoyed many of his posts in other threads and I agree with you on all of those things you stated about him, but when he calls me out for the one time I post something that is childish and has done the same to others in the short time I have been here and then acts like he is innocent from ever doing so himself which is far from the truth that just leaves me shaking my head.
 
Rah-Rah said:
I agree with you as I have enjoyed many of his posts in other threads and I agree with you on all of those things you stated about him, but when he calls me out for the one time I post something that is childish and has done the same to others in the short time I have been here and then acts like he is innocent from ever doing so himself which is far from the truth that just leaves me shaking my head.
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I do tend to retaliate when I'm insulted. But the one who starts it is the troublemaker. And you know who that is.
 
win231 said:
I do tend to retaliate when I'm insulted. But the one who starts it is the troublemaker. And you know who that is.
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You are saying you have never insulted or made a snarky comment to someone by starting it? I am sorry , but in the short time I have been here I have to disagree and I guarantee you that others who have been here longer would say the same as I have gotten private messages already concerning this situation with you from others. So say what you will and I know we will always disagree on the Covid and Vaccines and honestly I don't have a problem with that as I have stated many times already people can have their beliefs. Some of your beliefs I feel are pretty far fetched as you probably feel the same with some of the things I believe as well concerning this. Like I also said in replying to @dseag2 I have no problems and actually enjoy your other posts quite well and feel you are extremely talented playing the piano. This is just one issue that we will disagree on and I believe there are many others on here that you and they disagree on these things as well. I am not going to stop sharing my opinions on here as you will not as well, but no matter what you say it isn't going to make a bit of difference in my thinking. So I should have not said you have lost your mind even though I still totally disagree with your statement because you have all the right to think what you want to think. The same as I do.
 
chic said:
Since England reversed course on vaccine passports, mandates and masking, other European countries have followed suit like Ireland, Scotland, Denmark, Croatia and Czechoslovakia. It's a positive sign things are at last moving in a good direction.
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I believe it is Now called Slovakia. Just clarifying.🤩I have family there.
 
Rah-Rah said:
You are saying you have never insulted or made a snarky comment to someone by starting it? I am sorry , but in the short time I have been here I have to disagree and I guarantee you that others who have been here longer would say the same as I have gotten private messages already concerning this situation with you from others. So say what you will and I know we will always disagree on the Covid and Vaccines and honestly I don't have a problem with that as I have stated many times already people can have their beliefs. Some of your beliefs I feel are pretty far fetched as you probably feel the same with some of the things I believe as well concerning this. Like I also said in replying to @dseag2 I have no problems and actually enjoy your other posts quite well and feel you are extremely talented playing the piano. This is just one issue that we will disagree on and I believe there are many others on here that you and they disagree on these things as well. I am not going to stop sharing my opinions on here as you will not as well, but no matter what you say it isn't going to make a bit of difference in my thinking. So I should have not said you have lost your mind even though I still totally disagree with your statement because you have all the right to think what you want to think. The same as I do.
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Thank you for acknowledging that you should not have put it the way you put it. I respect someone who realizes their mistake.

Covid has brought out the worst in people. I have a niece & nephew that I helped raise when their parents divorced when their kids were 8 & 9. I drove them to school & picked them up every day, so their mother could stay employed, I drove my nephew to his art class (he's now a very talented & successful commercial artist for Warner Bros & the video game industry as well as a professor). When he needed a car, I gave him (not loaned him) $6,000.00 towards a new Corolla so he would have reliable, safe transportation (his father didn't care).

The thanks I got? Last year, my sister wanted to have a get together with 9 friends - 2 were birthdays. We set the tables & got the house decorated. We both happened to catch colds that evening. (Colds; not Covid).
My nephew immediately blamed ME for giving his mother my cold. I said, "We both got colds at the same time; how do you know who gave who the cold or where we got them?"
He said, "I know you gave her your cold; you're reckless because you sometimes have friends over & you go for walks outdoors."

I said, "You go to work & you're around 20 people every day; I don't see you staying home. And your wife shops at Costco; how many people is she around when she's there? If she catches a cold & gives it to you are you going to blame her, too?"
I also reminded him, "It was your mother's idea to have the get together, not mine; why aren't you blaming her? You can't possibly be that stupid.....can you?" (He's 37 years old) I also told him he's an ungrateful slob.
We haven't spoken ever since & probably never will, which is OK with me.
He sent me a birthday card recently with a note that said, "Happy Birthday.......I know things are weird right now."
Yeah....."things are weird," not "I'm sorry."

Oh, by the way, him, his wife & their 2 kids all got sick recently (all vaccinated & boosted) except the kids who are too young - 2 & 3 yrs old. His mother told me they were all tested for Covid - I don't know the results. I wonder who he's blaming.
 
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