First openly trans woman is set to be executed in Missouri on Tuesday

Disgustedman said:
I'd stop it as it's just too expensive. Oh and let EVERYONE be in general population. No restrictions, from the guy who hacked up five families to the guy busted molesting a child.

It won't be a question of you getting out, it's just the position.
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Huh?
 

win231 said:
The purpose of a restraining order is not to physically protect anyone. It can't.
The purpose is to legally protect someone who may be forced to defend themselves with deadly force. It creates a legal record that someone is a threat & helps with the victim's defense in case they are charged with homicide.
I have taken out restraining orders twice. In both instances, the person I filed the restraining orders on knew exactly why I filed them; I let them know.
They also knew what the outcome would be if they tried to make good on their threats.
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Over here you still would be charged if you shot the person which sucks.
 

1955 said:
I’m against the death penalty not because some people don’t deserve it but because our legal system has put to death too many innocent people.
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This is exactly why I'm against it. Not really a moral stance.

Black, poor, ugly. Pick the scapegoat. I know I was put in classes for slow learners in school which I'm not. I'm just your average idiot. I know people can make someone into something they are not. And the legal system can even do this.
 
TeeJay said:
Read 'em and weep! ... :oops:

Besides male and female, here is a list of the 72 other gender identities that a person may belong to.


  1. Agender: A person who does not identify themselves with or experience any gender. Agender people are also called null-gender, genderless, gendervoid, or neutral gender.
  2. Abimegender: Associated with being profound, deep, and infinite. The term abimegender may be used alone or in combination with other genders.
  3. Adamas gender: A gender that is indefinable or indomitable. People identifying with this gender refuse to be categorized in any particular gender identity.
  4. Aerogender: Also called evaisgender, this gender identity changes according to one’s surroundings.
  5. Aesthetigender: Also called aesthetgender, it is a type of gender identity derived from aesthetics.
  6. Affectugender: This is based on the person’s mood swings or fluctuations.
  7. Agenderflux: A person with this gender identity is mostly agender with brief shifts of belonging to other gender types.
  8. Alexigender: The person has a fluid gender identity between more than one type of gender although they cannot name the genders they feel fluid in.
  9. Aliusgender: This gender identity stands apart from existing social gender constructs. It means having a strong specific gender identity that is neither male nor female.
  10. Amaregender: Having a gender identity that changes depending on the person one is emotionally attached to.
  11. Ambigender: Having two specific gender identities simultaneously without any fluidity or fluctuations.
  12. Ambonec: The person identifies themselves as both man and woman and yet does not belong to either.
  13. Amicagender: A gender-fluid identity where a person changes their gender depending on the friends they have.
  14. Androgyne: A person feels a combination of feminine and masculine genders.
  15. Anesigender: The person feels close to a specific type of gender despite being more comfortable in closely identifying themselves with another gender.
  16. Angenital: The person desires to be without any primary ****** characteristics although they do not identify themselves as genderless.
  17. Anogender: The gender identity fades in and out in intensity but always comes back to the same gendered feeling.
  18. Anongender: The person has a gender identity but does not label it or would prefer to not have a label.
  19. Antegender: A protean gender that can be anything but is formless and motionless.
  20. Anxiegender: This gender identity has anxiety as its prominent characteristic.
  21. Apagender: The person has apathy or a lack of feelings toward one's gender identity.
  22. Apconsugender: It means knowing what are not the characteristics of gender but not knowing what are its characteristics. Thus, a person hides its primary characteristics from the individual.
  23. Astergender: The person has a bright and celestial gender identity.
  24. Astral gender: Having a gender identity that feels to be related to space.
  25. Autigender: Having a gender identity that feels to be closely related to being autistic.
  26. Autogender: Having a gender experience that is deeply connected and personal to oneself.
  27. Axigender: A gender identity that is between the two extremes of agender and any other type of gender. Both the genders are experienced one at a time without any overlapping. The two genders are described as on the opposite ends of an axis.
  28. Bigender: Having two gender identities at the same or different times.
  29. Biogender: Having a gender that is closely related to nature.
  30. Blurgender: Also called gender fuss, blurgender means having more than one gender identities that blur into each other so that no particular type of gender identity is clear.
  31. Boyflux: The person identifies themselves as male, but they experience varying degrees of male identity. This may range from feeling agender to completely male.
  32. Burstgender: Frequent bursts of intense feelings quickly move to the initial calm stage.
  33. Caelgender: This gender identity shares the qualities or aesthetics of outer space.
  34. Cassgender: It is associated with the feelings of considering the gender irrelevant or unimportant.
  35. Cassflux: There is a fluctuating intensity of irrelevance toward gender.
  36. Cavusgender: The person feels close to one gender when depressed and to another when not depressed.
  37. Cendgender: The gender identity changes from one gender to its opposite.
  38. Ceterogender: It is a nonbinary gender where the person has a specific masculine, feminine or neutral feelings.
  39. Ceterofluid: Although the person is a ceterogender, their identity keeps fluctuating between different genders.
  40. Cisgender: Being closely related to the gender assigned at birth during the entire life.
  41. Cloudgender: The person’s gender cannot be comprehended or understood due to depersonalization and derealization disorder.
  42. Collgender: Various genders are present at the same time in the individual.
  43. Colorgender: In this category, colors are used to describe gender, for example, pink gender or black gender.
  44. Commogender: The person knows that they are not cisgender yet continues to identify as one for a while.
  45. Condigender: The person feels their gender only under specific circumstances.
  46. Deliciagender: Associated with the feeling of having multiple genders but preferring one over the other.
  47. Demifluid: Having multiple genders, some fluid while others are static.
  48. Demiflux: A combination of multiple genders with some genders static, whereas others fluctuating in intensity.
  49. Demigender: The individual has partial traits of one gender and the rest of the other gender.
  50. Domgender: The individual has multiple genders with one dominating over the rest.
  51. Duragender: Having more than one gender with one lasting longer than the others.
  52. Egogender: It is a personal type of gender identified by the individual alone. It is based on the person’s experience within the self.
  53. Epicene: It is associated with a strong feeling of not being able to relate to any of the two genders of the binary gender or both of the binary gender characteristics.
  54. Esspigender: The individual relates their gender identity with spirits.
  55. Exgender: The denial to identify with any gender on the gender spectrum.
  56. Existigender: The person’s gender identity exists only when they make conscious efforts to realize it.
  57. Femfluid: The person is fluid or fluctuating regarding the feminine genders.
  58. Femgender: A nonbinary gender identity that is feminine.
  59. Fluidflux: It means to be fluid between two or more genders with a fluctuation in the intensity of those genders.
  60. Gemigender: The person has two genders that are opposite yet they flux and work together.
  61. Genderblank: It is closely related to a blank space.
  62. Genderflow: The gender identity is fluid between infinite feelings.
  63. Genderfluid: The person does not consistently adhere to one fixed gender and may have many genders.
  64. Genderfuzz: More than one gender is blurred together.
  65. Genderflux: The gender fluctuates in intensity.
66 Genderpuck: The person resists to fit in societal norms concerning genders.
67 Genderqueer: The individual blurs the preconceived boundaries of gender in relation to the gender binary or having just one gender type.
68 Gender witched: The person is inclined toward the notion of having one gender but does not know which.
69 Girlflux: The individual identifies themselves as a female but with varying intensities of female identities.
70 Healgender: A gender identity that gives the person peace, calm, and positivity.
71 Mirrorgender: Changing one's gender type based on the people surrounding.
72 Omnigender: Having or experiencing all genders.
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I am speakless. Is this what happens in a rich country. While many are homeless and hungry, there are countries spending millions of figuring out what gender everyone is! I don't think this can last.
 
Packerjohn said:
I am speakless. Is this what happens in a rich country. While many are homeless and hungry, there are countries spending millions of figuring out what gender everyone is! I don't think this can last.
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There is a lot to the idea that the ready access to the basics, and then some, of a nation or polity has a connection to what is allowable in terms of marginal and non-productive social behaviors.

Poor societies simply cannot afford nonsense, nor can the afford to wallow in excessive empathy.

If you are rich enough, you can insulate yourself from the negative consequences of any given act/custom.
 
Nemo2 said:
What was the book by that guy Gibbon...."Rise & Fall of something or other"?
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It was "Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire." I read it many, many years ago. Maybe someday there will be a book called, "The Rise and Fall of the Western World." If it falls, I wouldn't be surprised if the inhabitants of the Western World were the cause of the fall. Too much time wasted on defending criminals, figuring our which of the 73 genders they belong to and wasting resources building more toilets because MEN/WOMEN is just not good enough!
 
JimBob1952 said:
It wasn't Rise and Fall, it was Decline and Fall...we're in about the eighth inning right now...
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What's really interesting is that it's not valid to simply knee-jerk to thinking that we're seeing the whole thing repeating, just look at the book, and we all know how it ends.

One of the biggest deals I see that are similar are these two aspects:

1) when still a republic, the plebians (non-patricians) were increasingly open to emotional appeal from demagogs.

2) there was a gradually erosion of civic duty that was replaced by either slaves or hirelings. An example was that there was no longer an army composed of Roman citizens, but paid mercenaries.

The Romans were much more heirachically-based so far as social classes.

An interesting feature was how voting worked. Some people had more votes than others:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_ancient_Rome#Property-based_classes

So far as the encroachment of decadence (both the early Roman and early US citizenry were fairly puritanical and upstanding), it is probably a symptom more than a cause.

My opinion, only.

The complete 6 volumes runs to about 4k-4.5k pages with normal annotations.
 
Sawfish said:
What's really interesting is that it's not valid to simply knee-jerk to thinking that we're seeing the whole thing repeating, just look at the book, and we all know how it ends.

One of the biggest deals I see that are similar are these two aspects:

1) when still a republic, the plebians (non-patricians) were increasingly open to emotional appeal from demagogs.

2) there was a gradually erosion of civic duty that was replaced by either slaves or hirelings. An example was that there was no longer an army composed of Roman citizens, but paid mercenaries.

The Romans were much more heirachically-based so far as social classes.

An interesting feature was how voting worked. Some people had more votes than others:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_ancient_Rome#Property-based_classes

So far as the encroachment of decadence (both the early Roman and early US citizenry were fairly puritanical and upstanding), it is probably a symptom more than a cause.

My opinion, only.

The complete 6 volumes runs to about 4k-4.5k pages with normal annotations.
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The last three volumes as I recall are about the Eastern empire, or what we might call Byzantium, and don't end until 1453.

I can't remember if Gibbon went into the fiscal decline of Rome and the debasement of the currency. But that was a huge factor. So were the civil wars among factions siding with different claimants to the emperor's thrones, the barbarian incursions and the rise of the Parthians. Basically the whole thing was a mess after the Antonines.

I do think we are in decline. We are running up debts we can't ever pay, we can't secure our southern border, we can't educate our children, we can't seem to stop taking drugs, and we tolerate crime and other antisocial behavior to an unhealthy extent. The parallels to Rome are pretty limited, however.
 
JimBob1952 said:
I do think we are in decline. We are running up debts we can't ever pay, we can't secure our southern border, we can't educate our children, we can't seem to stop taking drugs, and we tolerate crime and other antisocial behavior to an unhealthy extent.
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(y) (y)Can't argue with that...it's all pretty sad isn't it?
 
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