Three years today was lockdown

I was lucky compared to many people.. I have a large garden, and was able to spend time doing a lot out there while everything was closed to the public. All the time the Pandemic was raging and we were in strict lockdown, the people who were suffering most were those stuck 24/7 in apartment with children.. and or those in abusive partnerships.. terrible... and I thought of those people very often..
 

Marian said:
Should have lied? Well aren’t you nice
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Don't take it so seriously. I was fine. I was wearing full PPE at work including a face shield. By the time of my surgery, I'd had multiple close contact exposures. They continued on and they finally allowed my surgery even with exposure. When I got covid last year, we didn't have face shields and I think that's why I got it.
 
Disgustedman said:
Hmmmmm.......20K in 69 days. How about 131,761 deaths from heart disease? Or the 100,991 from lung disease in the same time frame.

Where's the hysteria for those deaths? On average. We lose 7-8 million people a year to various ailments, disease, accidents, suicides and murder.

20K in 69 days is 239 a day. For the entire year, at 8 million, that's over 21,000 a day. In other words, 1% of deaths are covid.

Personally, I was an "Essential" worker. So I dropped to three days a week, got into a bit of trouble (glorious two week vacation!) And till I got sick, was doing good.
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And yet 3000 people dying at the World Trade Center caused an outrage. How many people dying would YOU suggest we should be concerned about?
People ARE concerned about heart and lung disease. Mostly it’s not contagious though. If I could prevent someone from getting it by wearing a mask for 20 minutes in the grocery store, I surely would! Would you?
 

Marian said:
Covid has not become like the flu. We are still in a pandemic.
From January1, 2023 until March 10, 2023 over 20,000 people died in the USA alone from Covid . That’s only 69 days!
85% of those people who died were over 65.
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Such a sad statistic!

Because I was in my mid eighties I always comforted myself by going by percentages!

For instance: in the U.S. the present population is 330 million, 33 million would be ten percent of the population, 3.3 would be one percent, 330 thousand 0.1 percent, 33 thousand 001. percent of the population, if you get my drift.

So roughly seven thousand in one month (at present)* would be a tiny percentage when looking at a populous nation of 330 million!

I applied this type of fairly rational thinking to New Brunswick and tried to forget that it hit those of my age the worst. Yes, I had all my shots! But in all honesty, I was fairly safe anyway.
I saw my daughter only during the worst times and during the lockdown she would shop groceries for me and leave them in the lobby of our building!

And yes I know, statistics or not, the loss is very real for those of you who lost loved ones and friends! And for that I am deeply sorry!

*Sorry I was slightly off because it wasn't a full three months.
 
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I haven't done anything differently for the last three years and I'm perfectly fine. 🙂
A major benefit of all the recent propaganda, with toxins being ignored in favor of imaginary viruses, <--
is that it's easier now to see who can and can't think for themselves, and therefore who can be trusted and who can't.

@Rose65, @Marian: See at 15:55 <-- where big pharma from 1943 through 1952 recommended spraying DDT on children to combat polio, which they said was caused by flies and mosquitos with no proof, when in fact it was their DDT and similar pesticides that caused the paralysis.
🍀
 
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Marian said:
But they still don’t know how or if it may mutate again and whether the next mutation my be more deadly
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Who do you mean by "they"? Virologists agree that viruses behave the same for their own survival. While SARS CoV-2 is unique in some ways, it is not a self-destructive virus. It will continue to mutate for its own survival, and killing its host is not conducive to its survival. True, it may mutate to cause more severe symptoms or milder symptoms or to escape immunity, but not to be more deadly.

Now, if an entirely new virus comes along, that's another story. It could start out causing a deadly infection, but it would have to either become less deadly or it will die out. That's how the virus do.
 
Murrmurr said:
Who do you mean by "they"? Virologists agree that viruses behave the same for their own survival. While SARS CoV-2 is unique in some ways, it is not a self-destructive virus. It will continue to mutate for its own survival, and killing its host is not conducive to its survival. True, it may mutate to cause more severe symptoms or milder symptoms or to escape immunity, but not to be more deadly.

Now, if an entirely new virus comes along, that's another story. It could start out causing a deadly infection, but it would have to either become less deadly or it will die out. That's how the virus do.
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You just make this stuff up! Are you a virologist? You give no proof of anything. Buh bye
 
hollydolly said:
Well most of us still had each other here on the forum to chat to , so in many ways it saved our sanity
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Very true. Having online folks to chat with made a big difference.

We had restrictions here but not for walking. No masks required. Put a lot of steps on, especially in the first year.

I am happy that I don’t have to hug friends or shake hands.
 
Lawrence00 said:
I miss getting to shop an hour earlier at the grocery than the under 60 bunch.
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So true but we did gain picking up groceries at the car. Actually pickup had started here about a year before the pandemic but it wasn't very popular. I'm happy to say it's now very popular post-pandemic.

Well, I guess we are all pretty well-baked into our positions on Covid by now. :unsure:
 
Marian said:
But they still don’t know how or if it may mutate again and whether the next mutation my be more deadly
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Yes, that is what I worry about. It is constantly mutating, seems to me it could find a way to come back stronger. It may be a sad thing to some, but I am fine with being at home. I still try to follow CDC guidelines when I do go out. I have been fully vaccinated. I have not had Covid or even so much as a cold. That alone, no colds, no bronchitis, I think wearing a mask has kept me from contracting other things.

Yes, people do look at me funny that I am still wearing the mask. I live alone and I don't want to be sick. I already have health problems, I don't need anything extra to make me feel unwell. I struggle everyday as it is.
 
Blessed said:
Yes, that is what I worry about. It is constantly mutating, seems to me it could find a way to come back stronger. It may be a sad thing to some, but I am fine with being at home. I still try to follow CDC guidelines when I do go out. I have been fully vaccinated. I have not had Covid or even so much as a cold. That alone, no colds, no bronchitis, I think wearing a mask has kept me from contracting other things.

Yes, people do look at me funny that I am still wearing the mask. I live alone and I don't want to be sick. I already have health problems, I don't need anything extra to make me feel unwell. I struggle everyday as it is.
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All viruses behave the same for their own survival. While SARS CoV-2 is unique in some ways, it's not a self-destructive virus. It mutated for its own survival, and killing its host was not conducive to its survival. It may mutate to cause more severe symptoms or milder symptoms or to escape immunity, but not to be more deadly.

If an entirely new virus comes along, it could start out deadly, but it would have to become less deadly or it would die out. Viral instincts.
 
Murrmurr said:
All viruses behave the same for their own survival. While SARS CoV-2 is unique in some ways, it's not a self-destructive virus. It mutated for its own survival, and killing its host was not conducive to its survival. It may mutate to cause more severe symptoms or milder symptoms or to escape immunity, but not to be more deadly.

If an entirely new virus comes along, it could start out deadly, but it would have to become less deadly or it would die out. Viral instincts.
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Good point. :unsure:
 
Old Salt said:
I think she meant being exposed, not actually getting it until later on in the year! I might be wrong though. It's a bit ambiguous!
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Murrmurr said:
Look up "top medical journals" or "most trusted medical journals" and then select a few and read their studies and reviews on studies. The Lancet and NIH websites have articles about it. You can also find some excellent medical lectures on YouTube that discuss that topic.
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"The statement that 'in the history of virology, there has never, ever, been a viral mutation that resulted in a virus that was more lethal' appears to be quite untrue," Timothy Sheahan, virologist and assistant professor for the Gillings School of Global Public Health of the University of North Carolina, told USA TODAY.
Sheahan pointed to several examples such as the Ebola virus, which was discovered in 2016 to have undergone a mutation that not only made it more transmissible but likely more infective. This variant eventually died when the epidemic ended in 2016. The West Nile virus was found in 1999 to have mutated into a highly virulent strain, killing crows on multiple continents.
The 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, estimated to have killed at least 50 million people worldwide, is another example, said Chua.

I’ve noticed that you drop these little bits of misinformation here and there and anytime someone asks YOU for some proof you just ignore them . I’ve yet to see one shred of evidence on anything you’ve posted.
 
Marian said:
And yet 3000 people dying at the World Trade Center caused an outrage. How many people dying would YOU suggest we should be concerned about?
People ARE concerned about heart and lung disease. Mostly it’s not contagious though. If I could prevent someone from getting it by wearing a mask for 20 minutes in the grocery store, I surely would! Would you?
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But dear, the masks were shown to be ineffective. So you were just wasting your time wearing them. While heart and lung disease aren't contagious, it can be the result of not following recommended healthy exercise.

Imagine how much more healthy we'd all be if we were forced to daily do 30 minutes of exercise. Just like mask wearing, but instead, it would be highly effective of reducing our obese populace.

Regarding 9/11 that was a terrorist act. It "could" (should be) classified that so was Covid. Leaked (intentionally) from a lab to test the potency. It was more a risk for the older generations, with outliers also.

In the final thought, why were they screwing around with it? Creating a deadly virus for what reason other than to use it to reduce populations? Could it be they wanted to kill off the elderly?
 
Marian said:
"The statement that 'in the history of virology, there has never, ever, been a viral mutation that resulted in a virus that was more lethal' appears to be quite untrue," Timothy Sheahan, virologist and assistant professor for the Gillings School of Global Public Health of the University of North Carolina, told USA TODAY.
Sheahan pointed to several examples such as the Ebola virus, which was discovered in 2016 to have undergone a mutation that not only made it more transmissible but likely more infective. This variant eventually died when the epidemic ended in 2016. The West Nile virus was found in 1999 to have mutated into a highly virulent strain, killing crows on multiple continents.
The 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, estimated to have killed at least 50 million people worldwide, is another example, said Chua.

I’ve noticed that you drop these little bits of misinformation here and there and anytime someone asks YOU for some proof you just ignore them . I’ve yet to see one shred of evidence on anything you’ve posted.
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Yes, if you remember, SARS Cov-2 became more viral with the Delta strain. More viral means more infectious and more transmissible, not more deadly. It was deadly, but not as deadly. Also, it killed in a different way precisely because it became less deadly.
 
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