And the main cause of drug-resistant bugs is doctors' overuse of antibiotics & other drugs.
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Three years today was lockdown
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George1959
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In my opinion it was "just a "warmer-upper" for potentially much nastier PLANdemics to come ..." Thank you 'Billy Boy'
.Btw I avoided to participate in this tomfoolery if possible, e.g. on train I ate and drank for an hour until I reached my destination, since it was allowed to eat and drink, which was impossible with the mask. Completely legal
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George1959
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Perhaps you should ask a serious virologist.
"All viruses behave the same for their own survival. While SARS CoV-2 is unique in some ways, it's not a self-destructive virus. It mutated for its own survival, and killing its host was not conducive to its survival. It may mutate to cause more severe symptoms or milder symptoms or to escape immunity, but not to be more deadly. If an entirely new virus comes along, it could start out deadly, but it would have to become less deadly or it would die out." (Quote by murrmurr)
This is basic knowledge in virology. Every physician who denies this, is a quack.
George1959
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Yes. It does a lot of harm to the immune system.
SeniorBen
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That's not at all how they mutate. People should stop making up crap and pretending it's fact.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/how_do_viruses_mutate_and_what_it_means_for_a_vaccine
Here's more information on how viruses mutate and why some become dominant...
- Increased transmissibility: Some strains of a virus may be better at spreading from person to person than others, allowing them to outcompete other strains and become dominant.
- Increased virulence: Similarly, some strains of a virus may be more virulent, causing more severe disease in infected individuals. This can lead to increased transmission, as people who are more severely ill may be more likely to spread the virus to others.
- Immune evasion: Some strains of a virus may be better at evading the immune system, allowing them to persist in a population even in the face of vaccination or prior infection.
- Random chance: Sometimes, a particular strain of a virus may become dominant simply due to chance, without any clear advantage over other strains.
George1959
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You rely on Pfizer?
CarolfromTX
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The Chinese government owes me two years of my life back. Perhaps not intentionally leaked, this virus was unleashed on the world when it might have been contained. And all the lockdowns here were virtually useless, but were a great excuse for government overreach. And then there were all the instances of ārules for thee, but not for me.ā And then thereās inflation, caused by all the Covid relief spending which the government paid for by running the printing presses overtime. Yeah, itās been swell. And then thereās the whole vaccine shenanigans. My whole family has been vaxxed. Everyone but the teenagers have gotten it anyway. Donāt even get me started on masks. Yes, this virus killed people. But I think there should be a difference between people who died with Covid, and those who died because of it, an accounting which will never happen. Am I angry? Yes. Like thatās going to do any good.
hearlady
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Too all:
If the next pandemic does come, are you ready?
If the next pandemic does come, are you ready?
PeppermintPatty
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Yes!
John cycling
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Yes!
It was extremely hard for me. My depression and anxiety went off the charts. I was fearful of everyone think that they all had COVID. It was horrible going shopping and going outside or anywhere. I'm so glad things aren't as bad now. My weight is nowhere where it used to be.
Ladybj
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It was not that difficult for me mentally being that I was retired. And I did not allow it to effect me. I was already going through the grief of my sister's passing and was not going to pile that on as well... too much to handle. My hus is essential so he had no choice but to go out to work. The type of work he do, he was not able to work from home. My heart went out to all that were effected. A lot of people developed high level anxiety, depression, afraid to leave the house, etc., and some are still going through it.
Ladybj
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Hopefully
Murrmurr
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Yeah, I'm just a comedic virologist.
Just kidding.
But yes, what I wrote is basic knowledge. I learned it in my high-school biology class, and an instructor went over it in-depth in nursing school, and again when I took a phlebotomy course.
George1959
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In Germany it was the same. Here even someone who died because of a car accident was tested and if positive officially died because of Covid. Not to mention that the tests are not very specific.
George1959
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My comment was in regard to Marian's answer on your comment Murrmurr. I had no doubt, that you're right. Here all virologists and epidemiologists know this and the independent ones say it in public.Yeah, I'm just a comedic virologist.
Just kidding.
But yes, what I wrote is basic knowledge. I learned it in my high-school biology class, and an instructor went over it in-depth in nursing school, and again when I took a phlebotomy course.
Furryanimal
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Fifteen months of being denied everything I enjoyed did nothing for me.
And Wales consistently had stricter restrictions than the rest of Britain.
And we had another five weeks of lockdown imposed in Wales around Christmas/New Year 2021/22.
And I will never understand why this was the first pandemic where they isolated the healthy not just the sick.
i hope I'm long gone before the next pandemic arrives.
And Wales consistently had stricter restrictions than the rest of Britain.
And we had another five weeks of lockdown imposed in Wales around Christmas/New Year 2021/22.
And I will never understand why this was the first pandemic where they isolated the healthy not just the sick.
i hope I'm long gone before the next pandemic arrives.
hollydolly
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'tis true.. Wales had draconian Rules.. caused by your weird First minister ( is he still in his job btw) ?. England has very strict rules more than any western country.. but Wales was ridiculous. I remember how you were suffering still .. even after our restrictions were lifted, and how you had to come to England to do things..
My father lived through the Spanish Flu pandemic, and was a young child at the time. Iāve often thought since that had he not survived, I wouldnāt even be here, at least not in my present configuration. One can either drive themselves crazy with such thoughts, or be filled with a sense of wonderā¦
All four of my grandparents lived through the Spanish flu epidemic. Three of the four worked through it too. No lockdowns then. There couldn't be. Tough people.
It was never a "lockdown" for me. I also live in my own house, and still went out every day and walked my dog in a big open area state park just like we always did. When I was near people on the walk, which was rare, I'd put on my mask. I still went to supermarkets when needed and went to Costco to pick up an online order in the store.
I was concerned about the pandemic since it was killing people, including someone in my family. But I didn't overreact, bought my masks and hand sanitizer, and took my recommended vaccinations as soon as I could. I have never been infected with Covid, and have been healthy since the beginning. I'm boosted completely today, and have not been traumatized by this pandemic. I wish it never happened, but that is a wish by many.
I do feel sorry for folks who were completely alone at home, or those confused by what was happening. Easy to become fearful in a situation like this. Many American families and families all over the world had to bury their dead. I just wish more had gotten vaccinated as recommended, and that the vaccine was more readily available in other parts of the world. We all would have been in much better shape than we were.
We still took our usual camping trips, since we go to areas where there are few people around. I still always kept a mask in my pocket, but never had to use it on vacation.Living in a small village without amenities, there was little option but to go shopping as usual. People were cautious, but I think that rules were interpreted flexibly
I went to a dentist so they could put in a permanent crown for me, duting the early days of the pandemic. Everything in the office was sanitized, chairs, etc. Patients were seen one at a time, so the office was empty. They had me rinse with a special mouth rinse before the procedure. I felt okay having to go there, and was satisfied with their efforts for sanitation.