Admin - please reenforce “no politics.”

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Daisy99

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I saw the no politics message somewhere here when I joined a few days ago and it’s one of the reasons I joined. There are thousands of other sites where people can yawp all they want about politics and I was happy to find this oasis. Now, on a daily basis, I see a few comments where people just can’t control themselves. Go to Fox News if you must bash a politician or a party.

If this is no longer enforced, please let me know.
 
Clarification on what "no politics" means, is the issue.

I don't see many threads about politics directly. If any. I think the Admin has done a good job of keeping it out.

On the other hand, there is a "current events" forum, and many current events will have general details and facts that may be interpreted as "political", and that's when things get complicated.

Take for example a recent issue. Someone mentioned a particular player was one or other side of the political divide. This was done as an aside. It was not the focus of what was written, and it was not picked up and discussed in detail by others. It was, actually, just another fact. For me, that is not being political. The topic was not politics. No-one discussed a specific party, or member of a party. That is political in only the very broadest of terms, and since it's a single mention, hardly constitutes a problem, imo.

It's only when super-sensitive someones get upset about it that it escalates. The site admin doesn't have a lot of time to work here, so we must all do our best to follow the rules and make the job easier for him. I think that includes the application of common sense by the members.

I can list the following about a mass shooter: Their name, age, place of birth, nationality, gun type used, location of shooting, names of the victims, their injuries, the number of dead, and more. But apparently, having read the guys twitter and facebook pages, we can't mention his political leanings, even in passing. That strikes me as strange, and complainants are just creating work for a very busy admin.

No politics means no discussion of politics. A single mention of a political leaning, with no follow up and as a simple statement of fact, is not a discussion. It is one post, in one thread, as an aside. You've got to have very very thin skin to be bothered by that. IMO. For example, how does one have a discussion about the Israeli war without a political element?
 
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I have seen no "politics" being argued about here... at least by the way I define politics. No Trump bashing allowed. No Biden bashing allowed. No arguing about POLITICS as I define it. If there ever were any, they were promptly removed as was proper. But regular discussions on guns, abortion, etc.... that's not "politics" to me. That would be a matter of having no end if everything suddenly is considered politics.

Is this the same Daisy (Daisy the dog I think) who was in gun discussions a few months ago and was threatening to, or actually blocking lots of members? Just curious...
 
I have seen no "politics" being argued about here... at least by the way I define politics. No Trump bashing allowed. No Biden bashing allowed. No arguing about POLITICS as I define it. If there ever were any, they were promptly removed as was proper. But regular discussions on guns, abortion, etc.... that's not "politics" to me. That would be a matter of having no end.

Is this the same Daisy (Daisy the dog I think) who was in gun discussions a few months ago and was threatening to, or actually blocking lots of members? Just curious...
This morning on either the Maine shooting or the Hamas massacre thread, someone wrote that she absolutely hated Trump and everything was his fault. I’m glad you don’t see it or that it doesn’t bother you. I‘ll just start replying in kind.
 
This morning on either the Maine shooting or the Hamas massacre thread, someone wrote that she absolutely hated Trump and everything was his fault. I’m glad you don’t see it or that it doesn’t bother you. I‘ll just start replying in kind.
If a few political comments can bother you that much, this forum is definitely not for you. I'm trying my best to moderate this forum, but expecting me to remove all political posts before you read is ridiculous.
 
No politics means no discussion of politics.
On the sign in page:
Welcome to SeniorForums.com - The most active online community for senior citizens and baby boomers. To participate in the discussions, please register. You can login directly with your Facebook or Google account. No politics

As a matter of semantics, it says "no politics" not "no discussion of politics"

Perhaps the admins should elaborate on exactly what constitutes 'no politics', because if it is a rule, the lack of clarity means enforcement is impossible.
 
Jeebus. For those who wish to "discuss" politics:

Question #1 - Have you ever changed your mind/opinion about a political issue based on someone else's online comment??
Universal answer #1: Hell NO

Question #2 - Have you changed someone else's mind/opinion based on what you posted?
Universal Answer #2: see universal answer #1

I come here to get away from politics and other mindless bickering. But it only takes a couple of folks to ruin an otherwise friendly web site.
 
I saw the no politics message somewhere here when I joined a few days ago and it’s one of the reasons I joined. There are thousands of other sites where people can yawp all they want about politics and I was happy to find this oasis. Now, on a daily basis, I see a few comments where people just can’t control themselves. Go to Fox News if you must bash a politician or a party.

If this is no longer enforced, please let me know.
I recently had my post deleted because my comment was potentially politically charged. I didn't mean it to be because I think politics is a joke and I never discuss it with any serious intent.

But to answer you, yes, the no politics policy is enforced.
 
On the sign in page:
Welcome to SeniorForums.com - The most active online community for senior citizens and baby boomers. To participate in the discussions, please register. You can login directly with your Facebook or Google account. No politics

As a matter of semantics, it says "no politics" not "no discussion of politics"

Perhaps the admins should elaborate on exactly what constitutes 'no politics', because if it is a rule, the lack of clarity means enforcement is impossible.

I think we can drop this now. I've been in contact with the board owner. I think we should all move on. Do I feel hard done by? Sure, but it's what I'd call a "first world problem". :D
 
On the sign in page:
Welcome to SeniorForums.com - The most active online community for senior citizens and baby boomers. To participate in the discussions, please register. You can login directly with your Facebook or Google account. No politics

As a matter of semantics, it says "no politics" not "no discussion of politics"

Perhaps the admins should elaborate on exactly what constitutes 'no politics', because if it is a rule, the lack of clarity means enforcement is impossible.
Most longer-term SFers are quite respectful about keeping threads and comments clear of contentious politics like disparaging a particular party or politician.

The thread being discussed here had a sentence about the shooter's stated positions on X and FB, and it was within a much larger post. This wasn't a political thread in my estimation.
 
It's challenging to precisely define the scope of political discussions. We implemented this rule in response to the 2016 presidential election, where discussions became overly heated and divisive. The original intent of this rule was to eliminate partisan American politics from the board; we have no intention of extending the ban further.

In essence, 'no politics' means no American partisan politics. If we can tell if the poster is a Republican or Democrat, it's considered political. Obviously this leaves a lot to discuss, but we believe it's in the best interest of the forum to remove divisive political content while retaining a sense of enjoyment.

Please keep in mind that this is a community, and we depend on member reports to moderate the forum. If a post criticizing Biden was removed while one criticizing Trump wasn't, it's solely because the former post was reported, allowing us to take action.

Regarding politics in other countries, no complaint, no actions.
 
I cannot speak for Matrix nor my inputs be considered policy, but rather terse advice. Older posts in threads bearing on this subject:

Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade?

I've mentioned this before on this board that is supposed to avoid politics, that some apparently did not absorb. Members need to stop DIRECTLY naming political parties and politicians in their threads. There are other ways to reference parties, groups, and politicians without doing so directly. For example, B is the D president. Yeah I know [insert member name], you prefer to demonize directly so everyone can read whatever. Some members are increasingly doing so and some of the same names who do so pop up frequently.

As an example, search in this thread shows "republican" 12 times, democrat 4 times, biden 5 times, trump 5 times, 7 alito, 9 thomas, 6 roberts, 3 breyer, 1 sotomayor, 3 kavanaugh, 1 kagan, 1 gorsuch, 3 barrett.


It's Nice Being on a Non Political Forum

Obviously, some members here strongly would prefer the ability to discuss politics within these forums and some have already posted within this thread that attitude. I'd bet the same people are the ones that post as though they are trying to influence other members as though they are doing so in the service of their personal political party or group for whatever those causes are. Of course, since the Internet arose there have been these trolls that work at such on a list of web forums as though they are performing a service for their cause. I've addressed that previously

https://www.seniorforums.com/thread...ther-members-a-valid-view.71314/#post-2102672

...Several times I've related I am not here to change others as some tend to act as though whatever might bear on a political election or how a conflict or controversy occurs because whatever we post here on this modest web board unlike some social media site like Twitter, will have an infinitesimal effect. While posting does offer value reflecting how a range of people feel about whatever as well as practices discussion skills.

And one can expect they will continue to push forum policy in that direction and in fact use the fact they bait others herein into the same behavior as evidence many are doing so or it is "OK". Well folks don't be drawn into their game. The majority herein obviously don't want to be reading excessive political diarrhea as is found at many other web boards especially during political election cycles. And yes there are ways to discuss political elements without the usual favorite demonizing tactics political trolls tend to use.
 
Don't worry about it Daisy, just don't get involved,
I like politics, but would never try to discuss them.

In my younger days, when partying, or just drinking,
Alcohol, the rule was always, "No Politics Religion",
end of story, I never mention politics with anybody,
they might be the opposite party, then I lose a friend.

So don't tell anybody, your political views and don't
complain about something that is just a few letters
on your computer screen, be wise and be accepted.

Stay safe.

Mike.
 
Saying "no politics" is way easier said than done. Most issues deal with politics in one way or another.

For example, talk pensions, talk politics, talk gun control, talk politics, talk Ukraine-Russian war, talk politics. Even if you talk about global warming you are indirectly talking about politics.

Even if you talk about Sunday Church services, you might be talking politics of some sort. eg: Church politics.

I guess if we just stick with those lovely teapots, then we'll be OK but there is just gotta be more to life than teapots! Ha, ha, ha!
 
Saying "no politics" is way easier said than done. Most issues deal with politics in one way or another.

For example, talk pensions, talk politics, talk gun control, talk politics, talk Ukraine-Russian war, talk politics. Even if you talk about global warming you are indirectly talking about politics.

Even if you talk about Sunday Church services, you might be talking politics of some sort. eg: Church politics.

I guess if we just stick with those lovely teapots, then we'll be OK but there is just gotta be more to life than teapots! Ha, ha, ha!
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Totally agree...I've been saying this for the longest time, and it's also what @Matrix said in his post too..
 
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