Microsoft are having a Laugh

Mike

Mike

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At me, I went to a supermarket site, this afternoon, to
check availability and price of something, when I typed
the name of the product, my machine froze!

Grey screen, "Preparing to Update", (or something like),
"Do Not Turn Off Your Computer", after looking at this
screen, for half an hour, I got out my small pad laptop,
when I switched it on, I got similar messages on that, if
I hadn't already had grey hair, then it would have turned
then!

The little laptop, was open and ready first, the big machine
with the loads of memory and processors, took 55 minutes
to decide to come back and play.

I know we need these update, but they always come at the
wrong time for me.
😡🤬😡🤬

Mike.
 

It's funny to me in a sick way.

People took one potshot after another at Microsoft about "security" then in Vista they added UAC to address many of the concerns leveled at them and... whinge, whinge, whinge.

They got whacked again about "security" and another big problem was that when they released patches and fixes people failed to install them and kept on complaining. So they made updating more automatic and now... whinge, whinge, whinge.

None of this was a problem for users who followed the rules and observed proper hygiene. But the sloppy and lazy whiners have ruined things for everyone. Baby can't eat steak, so we all get pablum.

For phones this was largely addressed, but that required dumbing things down a lot with a different application model. It means a lot more updates, for technical reasons. But they can be lighter and quicker and be done more incrementally. Pablum by design, not an afterthought.
 
My computer is turned off every night and back
on in the morning, for many years that was when
the update took place, now they seem to come
I am working on the PC, I will try and see if there
is a setting that might have slipped.

Mike.
 

I rarely even turn on my Win 11 laptop but have noted some options in Settings > Windows Update ...

- You can Pause Updates in one week increments up to five weeks. If doing something really important, might enable that option.

- Under Settings > Windows Update >Advanced Settings, there is an option to set the Active Hours. Default is 8AM - 5PM, but if most active on the computer at night, might consider changing the Active Hours. Windows won't try to reboot after an update during the active hours.

The option I choose to use is Linux on my main computer. No antivirus required, so no daily updates there and occasional Linux updates take seconds not hours. So no whining about Windows whiners.
 
Nathan said:
Updates are essential for security, especially with M$ products. Microsoft has always viewed the customers computer as belonging to MS, nowadays they don't feel the need to extend the courtesy to the user to ask when the update would be convenient.
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Actually, if you go into Settings > Updates & Security > Windows Update, you can actually change settings:

- Get the latest updates as soon as they're available
- Pause updates for 7 days
- Change active hours

Also, Windows generally updates (if I recall correctly) on "Patch Tuesday" — the second Tuesday of the month.

More info here: Update release cycle for Windows clients - Windows Deployment

Added: I see @Nathan posted before me.
 
Devi said:
Actually, if you go into Settings > Updates & Security > Windows Update, you can actually change settings:

- Get the latest updates as soon as they're available
- Pause updates for 7 days
- Change active hours

Also, Windows generally updates (if I recall correctly) on "Patch Tuesday" — the second Tuesday of the month.

More info here: Update release cycle for Windows clients - Windows Deployment
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I'm glad that option is still available, a lot of Windows users aren't aware of that.
 
papa tiger said:
I painted one Emerald Green for a friend and his Girlfriend in 72 ish. They drafted 18 wheelers down the interstate back then.
The young ladies loved them.
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Devi said:
Actually, if you go into Settings > Updates & Security > Windows Update, you can actually change settings:

- Get the latest updates as soon as they're available
- Pause updates for 7 days
- Change active hours

Also, Windows generally updates (if I recall correctly) on "Patch Tuesday" — the second Tuesday of the month.

More info here: Update release cycle for Windows clients - Windows Deployment

Added: I see @Nathan posted before me.
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@Devi ... do you have me blocked, because I made suggestions to take a look at Update Pause and Active Hours, before you posted.
Getting the latest updates as soon as they're available is nice but would have no affect on the OP's update and computer restart concerns.

EDIT: Actually, on my version of Win 11 (Home), Windows Update and Privacy and Security are two separate stand alone settings options, not bundled under Updates & Security as your options apparently are as stated. So I guess the Pause Updates and Active Hours might be in different locations depending ... but still should be there in settings ;)
 
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Naturally said:
@Devi ... do you have me blocked, because I made suggestions to take a look at Update Pause and Active Hours, before you posted.
Getting the latest updates as soon as they're available is nice but would have no affect on the OP's update and computer restart concerns.
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No, I don't have you blocked. I guess I started writing my comment and posted it before I saw yours (ahead of mine). Sorry. :)
 
Mike said:
At me, I went to a supermarket site, this afternoon, to
check availability and price of something, when I typed
the name of the product, my machine froze!

Grey screen, "Preparing to Update", (or something like),
"Do Not Turn Off Your Computer", after looking at this
screen, for half an hour, I got out my small pad laptop,
when I switched it on, I got similar messages on that, if
I hadn't already had grey hair, then it would have turned
then!

The little laptop, was open and ready first, the big machine
with the loads of memory and processors, took 55 minutes
to decide to come back and play.

I know we need these update, but they always come at the
wrong time for me.
😡🤬😡🤬

Mike.
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I hate Microshit Tuesday updates.
As soon as I see their little icon in my tray, I delay it for as long as I can, I actually went a month once.
 
I can find 2 ways to control updates in Windows 11:

How to pause automatic updates in Windows 11
You can pause automatic updates for a set amount of time -- anywhere from one to five weeks.
1. Go to Settings.
2. Click on Windows Update.
3. Under More options, click the Pause updates dropdown to select the amount of time you'd like to pause your automatic updates. To resume automatic updates click the Resume updates button in the same Windows Update menu.
Note that you can't pause updates indefinitely: Once the pause time has lapsed, you'll need to install the latest updates before you can use the pause feature again.

How to disable Windows 11 automatic updates
If you'd rather disable automatic updates for an indefinite period of time, you can do so through Windows Services if you don't mind getting a little technical.
1. Launch the Run window by hitting the Windows button + R.
2. Type services.msc into the text field and click OK.
3. In the Services menu, click on Windows Update.
4. In the General tab, select Disabled from the Startup type dropdown menu.
5. Click the Apply button.
To turn automatic updates back on, go through the same steps above and select Automatic from the Startup type dropdown menu. Even if you've disabled automatic updates using Windows Services, you can still manually download and install updates.
 
Mike said:
At me, I went to a supermarket site, this afternoon, to
check availability and price of something, when I typed
the name of the product, my machine froze!

Grey screen, "Preparing to Update", (or something like),
"Do Not Turn Off Your Computer", after looking at this
screen, for half an hour, I got out my small pad laptop,
when I switched it on, I got similar messages on that, if
I hadn't already had grey hair, then it would have turned
then!

The little laptop, was open and ready first, the big machine
with the loads of memory and processors, took 55 minutes
to decide to come back and play.

I know we need these update, but they always come at the
wrong time for me.
😡🤬😡🤬

Mike.
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that's one of the many reasons I stopped using Microsoft.... give me a Mac every time
 
In Settings you can set it to only update at night. But I had one apple update
16.3 that messed my XR phone to the max. I sort of hate 5G right now. 2 G / 4G
worked great. So far 5 G is a bad substitute for good. All that being said I usually
look for updates around noon and update whatever is there during lunch. 24H3
for 11Pro will most likely be a cruncher for an hour or so.
 
Thank all for your help and suggestions.

I went to settings etc., where I found that the active hours
was switched off, so I have changed to update between the
lunchtime hours 13 & 14, but it reverted to active hours of,
0700 to 2300 hours, I don't see any choice to select an actual
time when they can update, I am sure that there used to be one.

I am using Windows 10.

Mike.
 
Mike said:
Thank all for your help and suggestions.

I went to settings etc., where I found that the active hours
was switched off, so I have changed to update between the
lunchtime hours 13 & 14, but it reverted to active hours of,
0700 to 2300 hours, I don't see any choice to select an actual
time when they can update, I am sure that there used to be one.

I am using Windows 10.

Mike.
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This page explains how to set active hours in Windows 10 (which you already tried to do)
In active hours, you probably need to disable/turn off "Automatically adjust active hours for this device based on activity"
And then select the word "Change" as shown in the link below.
Not only that, but also shown is a separate setting to schedule a restart ...
How to configure Windows 10 active hours to avoid sudden restarts during updates
 
Like Naturally, I use Linux. No messing around with automatic updates. You just get a message as to what updates are available and you can choose if and when to install them. My laptop has a Dual boot with Win , but I've never used it. It's annoying that it's difficult to get machines with Linux rather than Windows. I imagine that the cost of computers includes a charge for software that is never used.
 
I tried Linux years ago, but went back to Windows. One can keep Windows from automatically updating. It's not difficult. I -gasp!- like Windows and don't feel like switching just because of updates.

However, my point here is that, if one posts any issues with Windows, we get do get automatic "switch to Linux" posts. LOL
 
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Devi said:
I tried Linux years ago, but went back to Windows. One can keep Windows from automatically updating. It's not difficult. I -gasp!- like Windows and don't feel like switching just because of updates.

However, my point here is that, if one posts any issues with Windows, we get do get automatic "switch to Linux" posts. LOL
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Some Linux converts have the enthusiasm and zeal for Linux similar to the "born again" religious types. I try to help Windows users, but I refrain from proselytising, because it's like trying to convince people of the merits of going to the gym, they have to want to...
 
Nathan said:
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Some Linux converts have the enthusiasm and zeal for Linux similar to the "born again" religious types. I try to help Windows users, but I refrain from proselytising, because it's like trying to convince people of the merits of going to the gym, they have to want to...
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And there you are, proselytising, yes?

Like I said, I tried it, prefer Windows. It isn't the same as not tending to one's health.
 
It's like everything in the world, people have their favourites. I used Windows for years up to Win 8 with 'Classic shell' but decided to try Linux on an old machine. I never looked back. Now I must confess that I spent many years in I.T. developing software so perhaps that's why Linux appeals to me. However, that doesn't mean that Linux isn't good for the non techie. It's fast and uncluttered, relatively safe from malware and fairly stable. It just depends what you want.
 
Okay. I don't find Windows unstable at all. I also spent many years coding stuff, so ...

Bottom line is that most Windows users are not likely to switch to Linux, regardless of anyone's wishes or preferences.
 


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