Loss if integrity in news reporting. A question.

Something else to think about........

A publication, tv or radio program, or podcast - is dependent on subscribers/readers/watchers/likes to survive. To help facilitate that, the headlines, mag covers, announced headlines, pre podcast write ups are all geared to get your attention and your participation.

The more "participation", the more they can charge advertisers. While the individual announcer/writer/host may be in it to pass along "news", their entity is in it to make money - or possibly to pass along their personal viewpoints.

But be it what it man, these are businesses!
 

chic said:
I grew up in the 1960's and saw the news everyday because my parents wanted to watch it. I mention this because many of you will remember these days. The news reported everything from politics to crime to the war in Vietnam. They covered weather events and even geological events like earthquakes and volcanoes. They reported the deaths of famous people.

They never told us how we should feel about the news they reported. There was no right way or wrong way to react to it, their job was to inform. This was a wonderful idea and I miss this kind of integrity in our modern world. How do you feel about this? Do you miss the news reporting of yesteryear? What's your take on it?
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Yes. I wish they would just report the news.
That's not going to happen now though. It's not news, it's propaganda on all sides.
 
I find network news to be basically the same, in the tradition of Cronkite, etc. It is cable news 24/7 that polluted a normal news story with opinion. IMO.
 

First, it's not "news", it's talking heads spewing biased opinions, and spins.
Since the start of newspapers, they were generally partisan. The idea of a nonpartisan, "just the facts" type of reporting lasted only a few decades after WWII. Then they went back to their historical roots- partisanship. Today, when ones watches the partisan "analyst panels" of one faction, and if you're not of that faction, it's all lies.
 
Alizerine said:
News should be facts. The rest should be labeled opinion. I check a broad spectrum of news but try to be aware of the agenda and corporate influence.
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Exactly. I recently came across a video I was able to watch for free on Amazon Prime, a documentary called The Brainwashing of My Dad. It tracks how the movie maker’s father is transformed by radio and then television ‘news’. In it they mention legislation passed during Clinton’s presidency which did away with regulations and protections which made the news feel so much different in our childhood. I found it hugely informative and strangely hopeful. The home movie footage made me feel right at home.

 
fuzzybuddy said:
First, it's not "news", it's talking heads spewing biased opinions, and spins.
Since the start of newspapers, they were generally partisan. The idea of a nonpartisan, "just the facts" type of reporting lasted only a few decades after WWII. Then they went back to their historical roots- partisanship. Today, when ones watches the partisan "analyst panels" of one faction, and if you're not of that faction, it's all lies.
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I believe our government, the media, institutions, NGOs are controlled by devoted activists whose agenda is, to them, good and honorable. To me, terrifying.
 
gruntlabor said:
I believe our government, the media, institutions, NGOs are controlled by devoted activists whose agenda is, to them, good and honorable. To me, terrifying.
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I feel that the "news" agenda at present is to make people hate each other which is not necessary. News is news. A fact is a fact. By telling people they must react a certain a certain way to news, otherwise they are bad people, is simply pouring accelerant on a conflagration. Why do this? Unless their goal is more nefarious than our reaction. :unsure:
 
Remy said:
It's not really news anymore. It's partisan.
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Very true. I tune in to Fox and CNN daily to get their views of both sides of the aisle, and current news of the USA and the rest of the world. Works for me, although the commercials are tiresome. TV is far more current than the newspapers, although the paper is often worth a look, particularly on the local front.
 
chic said:
I feel that the "news" agenda at present is to make people hate each other which is not necessary. News is news. A fact is a fact. By telling people they must react a certain a certain way to news, otherwise they are bad people, is simply pouring accelerant on a conflagration. Why do this? Unless their goal is more nefarious than our reaction. :unsure:
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To promote public need of government protection/intervention thence to socialism communism
 
hearlady said:
Yes. I wish they would just report the news.
That's not going to happen now though. It's not news, it's propaganda on all sides.
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Propaganda is exactly the word to describe what the media do. It's not facts anymore, but propaganda. In Germany the mainstream media are inclined to the left and far left side, since we have a left government. In some German federal states (incomparable to the U.S.) there is even an extreme left party part of the government. For example in Thuringia, there is the successor of the SED (the Socialistic Union Party of the German Democratic Republic), which killed numerous people at the border between West and East Germany, the "Die Linke - PDS" (PDS = Party of Democratic Socialism) part of the government and has the prime minister.

Thus all mainstream media in Germany are left to extreme left. The problem is that the broadcasting system is part of the state and for this reason only spreads propaganda of the ruling party but not correct information. They often deceive the people by omitting important facts. For instance if a migrant has committed a crime (mostly a stabbing) they often write or speak only of "a man".

Or at the moment there is a scandal in which a member of the extreme left party "Die Linke - PDS" is a suspect in a case of child pornography. The mainstream media don't even mention this. You must use alternative media to read it.

But all German households must pay for the broadcasting stations in the several federal states. It is Euro 18.36 per month, which is Euro 220.32 per year ($ 243). Nevertheless we don't get facts but only propaganda of the governmant.
 
The sad thing today is we have no one to trust. We get information.....more than we can stand. But information is not truth.....it's just information. Add AI to the soup and there is a real problem. Not just what we read now but what we see as well. The vast middle class is left to find their own way. Common sense is a big factor which most middle class Americans have. It's all we have and the lord.
 
chic said:
I grew up in the 1960's and saw the news everyday because my parents wanted to watch it. I mention this because many of you will remember these days. The news reported everything from politics to crime to the war in Vietnam. They covered weather events and even geological events like earthquakes and volcanoes. They reported the deaths of famous people.

They never told us how we should feel about the news they reported. There was no right way or wrong way to react to it, their job was to inform. This was a wonderful idea and I miss this kind of integrity in our modern world. How do you feel about this? Do you miss the news reporting of yesteryear? What's your take on it?
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It was also biased back then. You just didn't recognize it.

However, the audience has changed over the years. Now, to be honest, people THINK they're way more informed than they really are. We're drenched on "news", and we've lost the ability to be discerning. So instead we go with emotion, and anything that supports our current world view.
 
rbtvgo said:
The sad thing today is we have no one to trust. We get information.....more than we can stand. But information is not truth.....it's just information. Add AI to the soup and there is a real problem. Not just what we read now but what we see as well. The vast middle class is left to find their own way. Common sense is a big factor which most middle class Americans have. It's all we have and the lord.
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There were friends and neighbors, some into photography, or history, or travel, or fishing, or bridge. Now it's just political wrangling and activists. And the younger generations! What the hell! But that's the good news, I guess.

Pass the biscuits, please. --ODE TO BILLIE JOE, Bobbie Gentry
 
MarkD said:
Exactly. I recently came across a video I was able to watch for free on Amazon Prime, a documentary called The Brainwashing of My Dad. It tracks how the movie maker’s father is transformed by radio and then television ‘news’. In it they mention legislation passed during Clinton’s presidency which did away with regulations and protections which made the news feel so much different in our childhood. I found it hugely informative and strangely hopeful. The home movie footage made me feel right at home.

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One news outlet when accused of constant lying said hey we are only entertainment. No reasonable person would believe what we say.
 
ElCastor said:
Very true. I tune in to Fox and CNN daily to get their views of both sides of the aisle, and current news of the USA and the rest of the world. Works for me, although the commercials are tiresome. TV is far more current than the newspapers, although the paper is often worth a look, particularly on the local front.
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This is very reasonable.

I'm doing the same here, but instead of a broadcasting station as Fox News I must use the internet, since there are no conservative/right stations on air here. They are simply not permitted by our government.

'Servus TV' from Austria ceased to air their program via satellite in Germany and another Austrian media platform 'Auf1' which got a window from 8 to 10 am and 6 to 10 pm on a German satellite channel got a fine of about half a million Euro. This is much for a small private platform. It had to stop sending news and documentaries via satellite after only some months.
In Germany there is not a single conservative broadcasting station, only some channels on the net (via YouTube). Thus I mostly use websites.
 
Extraordinary good sense of Germany not allowing right wing biased news sources. We've seen what Germany capable of, more than once. Never Again.
 
I miss having the news reported in a serious standard voice. Now there are so many squeaky, fried voices on NPR, I can barely understand them, and the smirking and giggling on the morning TV shows can become really obnoxious.

Back in the 60's and 70's I do think they tried harder to get their facts right, but I also think they lied by omission more than they do now.
 

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