Theory of Quantum Immortality

This is interesting.

As part of experimental research dept in the Military, I learned a few things about torture. No, not that...the science behind it.
There was a reason people are put in the hole, isolated in a concrete cell with no windows, or versions of isolation.
In 1958 researchers in the US found that man must be connected to the sky at least once a day. Meaning must be outside where your body can freely connect to the earth. Not earthing where you take your shoes off and walk, or grab a tree and so on, but just be free of impedance of anything between you and the sky.
They found doing experiments that individuals kept in isolation soon became degraded. Lost the will to resist questions, lost the will to eat, lost mental clarity, lost the ability to rationalize thought etc. Once reinstating their ability to be free of impedance they improved instantly. This led to further research on the topic. Led to a lot of mk ultra research, and of course torture tactics.

It was the actual first mention of the cloud. The researchers (us military docs) said that there must be a connection humans need to the sky to 'keep sane and logical'. They were one of the first to use the term 'the cloud'.
A lot of the research after that became classified.

But it does beg a lot of questions. The first I have is many scientists have theorized that your consciousness never dies, just recycles into another vessel. Not that 'you' go into some other body, but that your connection to the world never stops, just your body dies.
Some say its the soul, or your essence. Maybe it is the soul, maybe its the mind's consciousness, maybe your memories. Who knows.

But it does require further investigation, as per the quantum immortality. Also could ask more questions in regards to whether we are in a simulation. Hmmm.
 
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Depak Chopra has said that quantum reality is the "real" reality that humans experience, and that it connects us to the source of creation.
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Much of what theoretical physics knows about quantum mechanics is beyond human understanding, even by scientists. Gaps in our knowledge offers fertile ground for new age religion and traditional religion.
 
spectratg said:
People on TikTok are freaking out after one woman suggested that we might not ever truly pass on - and that the world could have ended many times before without our knowledge. The theory is that our consciousness goes into an alternate reality, where we exist without the memories of the world we lived in prior, except for some details that don’t seem right.

If the theory of quantum immortality - which suggests that people never really die - is accurate, then humanity might have been ended many times by apocalyptic events similar to the asteroids “taking out the dinosaurs” 65 million years ago. We would essentially have no recollection because our consciousness would endure it, and we’d awake in a parallel world where that hasn’t occurred
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Well, I see a few problems: If the world ended, nothing would be here.
As for consciousness, if one is speaking of "human consciousness", it would have only been around for as long as humans, and no cataclysmic events have happened in that time frame (Unless you believe in Noah's flood).

As for the idea that people never really die, I think that is only partially true. The person you think of as you (Your personal identity) will die (IMO). However, the energy that is in you will continue on into other living things that consume your body (Assuming you aren't cremated). That's how nature continues on. All things die and give life to something else. It just won't be "you".

Could our molecules that go into other life retain some elemental memory of their past. It would be mere speculation to assume that could happen, but I think only bias could rule it out completely. It's interesting to think about.
 
OregonGuy said:
Neurologists are finding that our brains are quantum computers capable of actually programming themselves (neural plasticity)

So IMO our brains are capable of associating things (places, people, senses, events, etc.) over what Einstein termed space-time as our brains continue to develop toward self-consciousness.

Buddhism, neurology, and quantum physis are all converging toward cosmic consciousness.
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Neural Plasticity is real, it's how ones brain "heals" after a stroke. Also depends on your age, older people who have strokes don't heal quite as well. My grandmother was stuck with her eyesight issues, same as I had but mine have mostly relearned through plasticity. I played certain online games a lot which I believe helped too. Amazing stuff.
 
One and done physically.
Sure, your stuff that makes you
is still moving, just changing to
go back to the infinity realm.
Ur blown full of Formaldehydes.
Lots of stuff was about controls
on basically ignorant peoples.

Dust to Dust. One day that becomes a cinder.
Eternity blessings. Forever something.
Some new how to cross a desert.
Some new how to sail the seas.
Some didn't know much.
Some just followed orders in que.

Maybe some laid in fields of dreams
creating new diseases as they rotted
Flies everywhere a buzzing and creating.
 
I seriously doubt the immortal essence saw itself in an Apes image.
There is sort of proof that creation is an ongoing process of change.
Maybe the Immortal essence make up stuff all the time as a way to satisfy itselfs!
You know schools sucked back in Abraham / Moses days. They didn't know much,
Science, just practical stuff, just ordered stuff done. Maybe they could read & write.
Maybe they ordered it done. Like had stenographers in house. Someone had to
need Pyrus.

Notice how modern humans height / size has increased % wise in just 100 years.
Mostly the remaining ancient communication is on the cave walls / pictures.

I can go with the Break down building of Immortality is the DNA / Chromosomes / Gene's stuff?
 
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MarkD said:
Sounds like you’re making your conclusion a premise. 😉
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The cataclysmic events I was referring to are the type mentioned in the OP that would have wiped out most of life. If you're aware of something historians have missed during the advent of homo-erectus regarding this, please share.
 
Yellowstone, Smallpox, Collera, Typhoid fever, Malaria, Schistosomiasis, Cancers have all been so harmful.
Disease period. Sure Floods.

Most of the USA Midwest / East + South East Canada / Maybe Greenland and Europe will be history
if it blows within the next 10,000 years like predicted. Worldwide famine for the survivors.

You can count on a very large Asteroid with Earths name all planned and written on it in bold black finish.
Most likely where the Earth is in its orbit / + tilt to the sun will give the odds of Cremation / freeze / Stoned.
 
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fuzzybuddy said:
I think alternate universes, and quantum possibilities are theoretical, it seems their ultimate aim is the all too human quest for immortality.
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I've never heard that before. It's just theoretical science, and no one knows what it leads to or that it leads to immortality. Some charlatans will concoct some lame "proof" that it offers some long sought credibility for unsupportable claims, because as much as they fear science, they like the idea of having scientific evidence to help sell their product.
 
bobcat said:
The cataclysmic events I was referring to are the type mentioned in the OP that would have wiped out most of life. If you're aware of something historians have missed during the advent of homo-erectus regarding this, please share.
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I just meant that you seem to be assuming human consciousness is something discreet from all other varieties. But I assume we have evolved alongside every other creature since life began. Sure our consciousness is experienced in our particular way but what I was getting at was the assumption that consciousness arises from the biological action of brains - any brains, human or otherwise. That is what has not been shown and the fact that consciousness as we know it is interrupted if the brain is damaged only shows our brains are required. It doesn't show that it actually generates consciousness. It may just amplify something already there. We just don't know. But the assumption that brains secrete consciousness is the dominant bias.
 
Tazx said:
This is interesting.

As part of experimental research dept in the Military, I learned a few things about torture. No, not that...the science behind it.
There was a reason people are put in the hole, isolated in a concrete cell with no windows, or versions of isolation.
In 1958 researchers in the US found that man must be connected to the sky at least once a day. Meaning must be outside where your body can freely connect to the earth. Not earthing where you take your shoes off and walk, or grab a tree and so on, but just be free of impedance of anything between you and the sky.
They found doing experiments that individuals kept in isolation soon became degraded. Lost the will to resist questions, lost the will to eat, lost mental clarity, lost the ability to rationalize thought etc. Once reinstating their ability to be free of impedance they improved instantly. This led to further research on the topic. Led to a lot of mk ultra research, and of course torture tactics.

It was the actual first mention of the cloud. The researchers (us military docs) said that there must be a connection humans need to the sky to 'keep sane and logical'. They were one of the first to use the term 'the cloud'.
A lot of the research after that became classified.

But it does beg a lot of questions. The first I have is many scientists have theorized that your consciousness never dies, just recycles into another vessel. Not that 'you' go into some other body, but that your connection to the world never stops, just your body dies.
Some say its the soul, or your essence. Maybe it is the soul, maybe its the mind's consciousness, maybe your memories. Who knows.

But it does require further investigation, as per the quantum immortality. Also could ask more questions in regards to whether we are in a simulation. Hmmm.
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MK Ultra. Thank you for mentioning it.

I think many people in tech believe in the simulation experience.
 
Fuzzy and others here want science to prove or disprove the theory that our brains are capable of consciousness beyond our control. Well the split-brain experiment proves our brains can behave in two ways at the same time ... just as quantum physics proved atoms can simultaneously be waves and particles ...
Split Brain Experiments: Unveiling the Mysteries of the Divided Mind
Neurology is causing science to seriously consider the Buddhism concept of conscious duality,
 
Warrigal said:
I don't think an idea can be called a theory unless it is able to be tested. How would such a proposition be evaluated scientifically?
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Fuzzy and others here want science to prove or disprove the theory that our brains are capable of consciousness beyond our control. Well the split-brain experiment proves our brains can behave in two ways at the same time ... just as quantum physics proved atoms can simultaneously be waves and particles ...
Split Brain Experiments: Unveiling the Mysteries of the Divided Mind
Neurology is causing science to seriously consider the Buddhism concept of conscious duality,
 
MarkD said:
I just meant that you seem to be assuming human consciousness is something discreet from all other varieties. But I assume we have evolved alongside every other creature since life began. Sure our consciousness is experienced in our particular way but what I was getting at was the assumption that consciousness arises from the biological action of brains - any brains, human or otherwise. That is what has not been shown and the fact that consciousness as we know it is interrupted if the brain is damaged only shows our brains are required. It doesn't show that it actually generates consciousness. It may just amplify something already there. We just don't know. But the assumption that brains secrete consciousness is the dominant bias.
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Well, I do assume that human consciousness is discreet from other varieties. As far as we know, humans are the only species that is not only conscious, but self-conscious (Meaning that we are aware of the fact we are conscious). To my knowledge, and I belief that of the scientific community, no other species possesses that.

I don't believe that humans evolved along with every other creature since time began. The fossil record indicates that homo-erectus is a late development in the evolutionary chain. If they were around 3.5 billion years ago, someone in archeology surely would have found some record of that.

As for consciousness being solely a product of the brain, I made no such claim. My belief is that consciousness isn't just present or not present, but is in degrees. The more connectivity, the more consciousness. However, whether neuronal cells, or neurochemicals have some minute elements of consciousness built into them is anyone's guess, and it may even be possible that other parts of our body have those minute elements of consciousness. I'm not saying they do, but until consciousness if fully explained, I am certainly open to modifying my understanding.
 

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