Pocketbooks to be squeezed further

no such thping as a living wage first of all since all of us have differe lines in the sand and below it isn’t acceptable to us .

no one is guaranteed that what they earn can pay. the bills where they choose to live and how they choose to live .

many low wage earners may have to live golden girl style. with others .

never confuse what narkets value jobs at with what it cost to live a live style these people want to live .

minimum wage was for teens starting out m not a career path .

if it’s ones career path then they need to plan around it and not expect others to be forced to pay more for anything because of it
 
againstthegrain said:
"minimum wage was for teens starting out"

That's a myth that people use to make themselves feel better about seeing other people being treated badly.
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says you .

grownups were never intended to have a minimum wage job as a career path .


you are free to support or give money to anyone you like if you feel bad for them.

my taxes already give away enough
 
mathjak107 said:
says you .

grownups were never intended to have a minimum wage job as a career path .


you are free to support or give money to anyone you like if you feel bad for them.

my taxes already give away enough
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What does minimum wage have to do w career path? NOTHING. That right's, it's just another layer of bs on top of "mw is for teens" to relieve ones conscious from the terrible options many have to face.

What does your taxes have to do with people working at jobs in private industry? NOTHING. Just another strategy to help rationalize a position.
 
our taxes cover enough welfare programs , that is what it has to do with it .

i give to the charity’s i choose and my taxes go for massive amounts of welfare programs .

thats it , i did my share .

people have to take responsibility for their own lives.

not my problem anymore to solve
 
what part of no one wants to pay more for goods and services then markets price in as labor costs .
most of us don’t need anymore of our hard earned dollars being taken away to support others then we already have taken away thru our taxes

it’s an easy concept to understand. hey like i said you can give what ever you like to anyone you thing is under paid
 
That's why there are minimum wage laws cause customers don't want to pay more and owners of capital don't want to take less profit. It's an easy concept to understand so keep counting your money and repeating over and over about how much money you have while those around you are struggling.
 
againstthegrain said:
That's why there are minimum wage laws cause customers don't want to pay more and owners of capital don't want to take less profit. It's an easy concept to understand so keep counting your money and repeating over and over about how much money you have while those around you are struggling.
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let me repeat .

not my problem to solve

my concern is we are not struggling and i have spent a life time from keeping myself from being in that position and a burden to anyone.

i have no problem with minimum wages , until they get excessive.

but then things level out .

they raised the food delivery guys to 30 an hour .

all the food prices went up . now door dash , seamless , etc are seeing a plunge in business here and are crying about it

this conversation is done
 
Ted01 said:
I ran across this article:

Salary needed for Single person to live Comfortably

and I saw it written up by several media sources.

It shows the salary needed state by state that's "needed", but what "comfortably" means is a bit vague.
I thought that it was rather interesting.
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Ted, I hope you know I'm not knocking your post or anything, but it showed $90,771 / year for Texas. I don't know what those people are calling "comfortable" but I live on less than half that. I'm careful with my money, but I have deprived myself of nothing.
 
I am just glad I live in a country where no one has to rely on tips for a living wage.


(Probably a good thing because no one tips anybody anyway)


Does Pocketbook mean wallet?
 
We now have something called "a living wage", which is different between a "minimum wage".

You have to ask yourself, do you truly care about your community?

Minimum wage is a legally mandated number. You can't go below. However, such a wage does not mean it's a sustainable amount of cash. It does not mean someone earning this amount can pay for housing, food, and bills etc.

Which might not be a problem is the number of people relying on the minimum were teenagers, or job starters living at home with their parents.

However, with a massive job squeeze going on, and a rush to the bottom, you're seeing people with kids working minimum wage jobs. And it's a nightmare.
 
MACKTEXAS said:
Ted, I hope you know I'm not knocking your post or anything, but it showed $90,771 / year for Texas. I don't know what those people are calling "comfortable" but I live on less than half that. I'm careful with my money, but I have deprived myself of nothing.
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I know @MACKTEXAS, that's what's got me wondering about it... whatever they regard "Comfortable" to be, it's above the median annual wage in every state!! But the numbers are consistent in multiple media sources... so I'm trying to be generous in my belief that whatever "comfortable" is, it's not absurdly ridiculous. But I'm upfront that I am very cynical of all media source in the US... I don't trust any of them... I think that they're all propaganda rags of similar quality to the old National Enquirer. But I peruse them differently than most folks do.

So, it could very well be absurdly ridiculous!

Anyway, I just don't get it!? (Feel free to "Knock it" all you want, LOL!)
 
Ted01 said:
I think that it can mean whatever the writers meant it to mean.
OR...
It could mean whatever the reader wants it to mean.
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But there must be a truth. For example, visit West Virginia. Poverty is obvious. More obvious than, say, DC.

Trusting no-one sounds great, but in the end, you either believe something, or you check out entirely.

Simply by going there are using your eyes ought to be a good indicator.
 
VaughanJB said:
But there must be a truth. For example, visit West Virginia. Poverty is obvious. More obvious than, say, DC.

Trusting no-one sounds great, but in the end, you either believe something, or you check out entirely.

Simply by going there are using your eyes ought to be a good indicator.
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If there's a Truth in that article, perhaps in whatever "comfortable" means... according to the writers?

Perhaps, also, @MACKTEXAS hit a bullseye when he says that he lives on less than half of the writer's comfortable wage, (which would be about 30% less than the median wage) and has deprived himself of nothing?

How are you defining poverty?
 
I just now did a search asking AI, "How much does a single person need to earn annually to live comfortably in Texas?", and here's a picture of what came up:
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That's the same figure on the MSN site Ted posted, so "SmartAsset" says the same.

My cost of living has gone up, sure - but nowhere approaching that figure. But then, I don't go on cruises or drive an expensive car. I have a 7 year old Toyota Corolla which meets my needs, a house that's comfortable, I take short excursions now and then, buy my clothes, give to my church and 3 charities, pay my bills on time, and do what I want, even though - yes, it's a modest lifestyle.

If I was younger or single maybe I would want to do more and be into buying a lot of gadgets, etc - but add $30,000 a year for that, and I'd still be way below spending $90K a year.
 
Ted01 said:
If there's a Truth in that article, perhaps in whatever "comfortable" means... according to the writers?

Perhaps, also, @MACKTEXAS hit a bullseye when he says that he lives on less than half of the writer's comfortable wage, (which would be about 30% less than the median wage) and has deprived himself of nothing?

How are you defining poverty?
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It's probably dangerous to define it as one's personal experience. I can live on very little, but I have few needs. But if I were in my 20's with kids, I'd want and need different things.

So, for someone retired with a base income that provides for housing and food, enough is enough. But with decades ahead of you, and dependents... I mean, it's all relative.

So poverty in a specific area is an equation including rental costs, food costs, the cost of dependents, and in the US, health care, as a minimum. Some of those might not apple to a retired person.

But in broad terms - working 40 hours ought to provide enough to have a place to stay, to support yourself and at least one other, and eat.
 
MACKTEXAS said:
Ted, I hope you know I'm not knocking your post or anything, but it showed $90,771 / year for Texas. I don't know what those people are calling "comfortable" but I live on less than half that. I'm careful with my money, but I have deprived myself of nothing.
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Are you saving for retirement, rainy day fund, paying off student debt, paying high rent/mtg in the metro's, saving for kids college, or buying a car?
 
mathjak107 said:
let me repeat .

not my problem to solve

my concern is we are not struggling and i have spent a life time from keeping myself from being in that position and a burden to anyone.

i have no problem with minimum wages , until they get excessive.

but then things level out .

they raised the food delivery guys to 30 an hour .

all the food prices went up . now door dash , seamless , etc are seeing a plunge in business here and are crying about it

this conversation is done
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My heart bleeds for you, cry me a river! The take out food delivery costs more than it used to. Well that's tough chit and that's not my problem to solve either, but here's a suggestion: If you can't afford it, don't order it.
 

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