So frustrated at the few self-entitled folks here...

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Medusa said:
I swear I saw a blatantly, partisan, political post in the middle of a gardening thread once. :rolleyes: I couldn't believe it. (Pretty sure it was a gardening thread. I can't find it, which is probably for the best.)
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People have done that to Sports and Computer Tech threads that I've started...**shakes head**
 

Beezer said:
Nuclear missiles will be on their way to North America, and the only thread topic allowed will be Aunt Myrtle's Spicy Gravy Recipe.
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This is one small "no politics" forum in a sea of political outlets on the Internet. Plenty of places to put your views or last minute posts you feel you need to make as we're on the verge of being nuked without disregarding the rules here.
 
Nathan said:
Matrix made the Report button for a reason, but feel free to continue airing your frustration.
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What happens when political posts are reported and Matrix doesn't have the time to clean them up? I'll answer for you: locked or deleted threads. Do you see a problem with people showing common decency, abiding by the rules to prevent that?
 
C50 said:
It's easy to just stop reading a thread if you don't like its tone. It's also very easy to skip certain posters comments, I don't even put them on ignore, I just skip their postings.

If a thread gets shut down that's too bad but nothing to get upset about, that's just life on the internet.
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Innocent threads, that are not about politics, get pulled in that direction and subsequently shut down. Which is unfair to the OP, contributors to the intended topic and any others who might have been interested in reading about the original subject.

People are saying, "just report it, " and I'm sure that is happening, but Matrix is only one person. It would be a lot easier if contributors here would simply follow the rules of the forum. It's not hard.
 
Non partisan politics means taking a neutral stand on issues and mainly applies to judges running for office. They aren't registered with any party or movement and don't subscribe to any political agenda, at least not in their decision making. Sadly many judges are political, thus making the term non partisan a thing of the past.

On discussions boards, there is no such thing as non partisan politics when statements are made that anyone can see as partisan. Just because the poster didn't mention a political party or name a politician, doesn't exempt the post as being partisan political.

I don't know anything about the owner or admin of this site, except they posted NO POLITICS in bold letters and when joining, you agree to that rule.

I guess I am old school, where NO means no without any exemptions.
 
Deya said:
Non partisan politics means taking a neutral stand on issues and mainly applies to judges running for office. They aren't registered with any party or movement and don't subscribe to any political agenda, at least not in their decision making. Sadly many judges are political, thus making the term non partisan a thing of the past.

On discussions boards, there is no such thing as non partisan politics when statements are made that anyone can see as partisan. Just because the poster didn't mention a political party or name a politician, doesn't exempt the post as being partisan political.

I don't know anything about the owner or admin of this site, except they posted NO POLITICS in bold letters and when joining, you agree to that rule.

I guess I am old school, where NO means no without any exemptions.
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It's a sticky wedge. I can see what @CallMeKate is saying about certain topics almost inevitably leading back to politics, which would make it hard to enforce a strictly, No Politics rule, if taken to mean exactly that.

In the link @CallMeKate provided, Matrix does go into further detail about what he means by, partisan.

I can see that deciding where to draw the line in some instances would become blurry.

Still, I would be happy to give a, No Politics at All rule a try.

ETA: Link to explanation by Matrix: Politics is not allowed here
 
AnnieA said:
What happens when political posts are reported and Matrix doesn't have the time to clean them up? I'll answer for you: locked or deleted threads.
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Matrix will either delete offending posts, or lock / delete threads. I think Matrix avoids deleting the entire thread unless the thread topic was somewhat politically provocative to begin with.

AnnieA said:
Do you see a problem with people showing common decency, abiding by the rules to prevent that?
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Do I see a problem? Yes, people these days are, as this thread title suggests- [self] entitled with their political beliefs, and common decency/abiding by the rules goes right out the window. It's a problem.
 
IMO current events and politics are intertwined.

We can’t discuss a new Social Secuirty increase or tax reduction without it taking some sort of political twist but we can discuss things in a civil fact based way without resorting to insults or threats of reporting other members.

I’m content to let matrix do the moderating and trust his judgment about what he feels is appropriate for his forum.
 
AnnieA said:
The problem with political posts is that too many people don't skip them but reply with their own views and the thread deteriorates.
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So, the blame for deterioration is the responders fault? Just ignoring political post doesn't seem like a healthy thing for seniors to be doing. It seems silly that they even have to be reported, which as has been said ends up in the entire thread being deleted. When a political post is made and several give it a like, I think ignoring such gives any one reading that post, the idea that politics is rewarded, if it agrees with the views of other members that abide by the no politics rule or lack the courage to make a political post for fear of banishment.
 
Aunt Bea said:
IMO current events and politics are intertwined.

We can’t discuss a new Social Secuirty increase or tax reduction without it taking some sort of political twist but we can discuss things in a civil fact based way without resorting to insults or threats of reporting other members.

I’m content to let matrix do the moderating and trust his judgment about what he feels is appropriate for his forum.
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There is no reason Social Security can't be discussed without politics on a seniors forum. If all posters stick to the facts and not parrot what they read from biased news sources, then I think healthy discussions could be had. The thing is topics like Social Security are boring and facts can easily be found on the Social Security site.
 
Nathan said:
Do I see a problem? Yes, people these days are, as this thread title suggests- [self] entitled with their political beliefs, and common decency/abiding by the rules goes right out the window. It's a problem.
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Good catch. Edited the title. We do have a problem these days, we're being herded away from common decency in politics and so many people are falling for it.
 
In terms of its chances of influencing what our government does, one well thought out letter to an elected representative at any level would probably worth about ten thousand times more than arguing with strangers on the internet.
 
It's getting close to Shark Week and/or Shark Month on cable. You can't turn a topic on Great White, Bull, Tiger, or Hammerhead sharks into a political topic. Same with Whale, Mako, Lemon & Nurse sharks.(y)
 
Medusa said:
Innocent threads, that are not about politics, get pulled in that direction and subsequently shut down. Which is unfair to the OP, contributors to the intended topic and any others who might have been interested in reading about the original subject.

People are saying, "just report it, " and I'm sure that is happening, but Matrix is only one person. It would be a lot easier if contributors here would simply follow the rules of the forum. It's not hard.
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I agree with what you say. Sadly many people don't have the ability or desire to self police themselves, and it seems to be worse on internet forums where they're anonymous.

So all we can do is decide how we react, that's what my post was about. Nothing that happens or is said on any internet forum should ruin your day.
 
C50 said:
Why not? I'm an intelligent senior with opinions but never take the bait with political subjects on this site. It's only affected my health for the better.🙂
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I agree, ignoring an offensive post seems like the right thing to me or perhaps giving it a 😡.

It seems just as self entitled to sit in judgment over what everyone else should post or how they should feel about it.
 
C50 said:
Why not? I'm an intelligent senior with opinions but never take the bait with political subjects on this site. It's only affected my health for the better.🙂
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It isn't healthy for a discussion site, IMO. I should have worded that different. I didn't mean personal health.

I should have known better than to join this discussion. It is an exercise in futility.
 
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Deya said:
It isn't healthy for a discussion site, IMO. I should have worded that different. I didn't mean personal health.
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I think it's very healthy for a forum site to have rules! Not having those boundaries causes forums to get far out of hand and then they soon disappear as many have done. Ignoring posts you're not comfortable with is much better than getting your blood pressure all out of whack by having political debates that there's no way to "win." And it risks a temp or permanent banning as well. (So I guess in that way, it *does* actually touch on personal health.)
 
Deya said:
It isn't healthy for a discussion site, IMO. I should have worded that different. I didn't mean personal health.

I should have known better than to join this discussion. It is an exercise in futility.
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No discussion is futile unless someone isn't open minded enough to listen and possibly learn. That comment isn't directed at you, just my general view.

Glad you explained your earlier comment, thank you.
 
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