What Are The Average Retirement Costs?

not sure of the articles point . no one is average . all our costs are based on just where we all live . costs can vary by 2x even within the same state going area to area . what good is comparing costs for someone in nyc by averaging them out with those in rural Mississippi ? on average we all have 2.35 kids .. ever see .35 of a kid ? lol averages really mean little when it comes to all our costs of living .
 
I spend much less per year and much differently.

My biggest expense is medical insurance at $902.00/month.

I have been looking down the road and I can see a point where some of my expenses will begin to increase substantially as I require more assistance with my day to day living. My hope is that some of that increased cost will be covered by a decrease in other areas if I quit driving for example.

I just look as far into the future as I can and tweak my plans a little here and there to try and stay on course.

Comparing myself to the neighbors is interesting but it won't help me reach my final destination.
 

we all earned different amounts when working. we all live different lifestyles with different spending priorities in different areas .

anything that uses the words average or median when relating to the above are nothing more than click bait articles because retirement is no different .

anything beyond a tent in a warm climate is a lifestyle choice . depending on budget the choices of how to live and spend is endless . it is like asking how long is a rope ?
 
I spend much less per year and much differently.

My biggest expense is medical insurance at $902.00/month.

I have been looking down the road and I can see a point where some of my expenses will begin to increase substantially as I require more assistance with my day to day living. My hope is that some of that increased cost will be covered by a decrease in other areas if I quit driving for example.

I just look as far into the future as I can and tweak my plans a little here and there to try and stay on course.

Comparing myself to the neighbors is interesting but it won't help me reach my final destination.


while as we age we tend to cut back on lots of things we still have two big wild cards , healthcare and long term care .

but putting those a side any cut back in spending on ourselves as we age will likely be replaced with more spending on the grand kids and kids because that is what we would want to do with extra money .
 
unless one is frugal enough to live golden girl style just being frugal , those averages for many things would not even cut it in many areas . you would have to be living in a studio apartment in a less than stellar area here in nyc and the boroughs to get something in that price range . even studio's in decent areas run more than that average . one bedrooms in an apartment house are in the 1600-2k range outside of manhattan in less than top areas ..

all of us our going to have a different housing story .

medicare , a drug plan and supplement vary a lot by state . here medicare is 134 , 40 for a drug plan and 288 to 320 for a supplement . that includes no vision ,dental or hearing aids . that is 5700 per person .

sure , you can get cheaper advantage plans but those can be pay as you go with much higher out of pockets so they will vary case by case and plan by plan .
 
"Average" can vary all over the place. Someone who chooses to live in San Francisco, or NY City might need 6 figures per year just to get by. Others, who ignore their health, wind up spending most of their money on doctor bills. Being retired, and in debt...housing, etc., surely hampers a retirees quality of life. Those who have been wise enough to plan ahead, and live within their means, AND try to maintain their health, can enjoy their elder years.
 
No such thing as average here in the UK, but at least we don't have to worry about medical costs. Long term care is another matter, so it's best to spend all your money and let the state look after you. The amount you need to enjoy retirement was discussed recently on another UK forum. Assuming you're mortgage and debt free, most couples think that about £25k (about $35k) after tax is enough to provide a comfortable retirement. I'd recon a bit more, say $50k a year (after tax).
 
Averages, as mathjak points out, can't work for everyone. In Northern California the range varies dramatically on housing costs and medical costs, because so much depends on when you bought your home. Food costs here are definitely higher, one local paper estimated as much as 30% higher than average.

Locals pretty much accept that if you make less than $100K/yr - whether employed or retired - you're considered "barely making it", LOL.
 
"Average" can vary all over the place. Someone who chooses to live in San Francisco, or NY City might need 6 figures per year just to get by. Others, who ignore their health, wind up spending most of their money on doctor bills. Being retired, and in debt...housing, etc., surely hampers a retirees quality of life. Those who have been wise enough to plan ahead, and live within their means, AND try to maintain their health, can enjoy their elder years.


all these how much do i need articles are all pretty much useless and just click bait .
 
Averages, as mathjak points out, can't work for everyone. In Northern California the range varies dramatically on housing costs and medical costs, because so much depends on when you bought your home. Food costs here are definitely higher, one local paper estimated as much as 30% higher than average.

Locals pretty much accept that if you make less than $100K/yr - whether employed or retired - you're considered "barely making it", LOL.


Wow... food costs are 30% higher in NoCal ??
With all the good weather, agriculture, dairy and ranching in your state... WHY ??

Here in the Dallas area, there are plenty of different brand supermarkets.
In other words, lots of competition. Food prices here are lower than average.
 
Goofy! My costs are far less, and I'm living in one of the most expensive cities in the US. I agree with those who say this article is simply click bait.
 
No such thing as average here in the UK, but at least we don't have to worry about medical costs. Long term care is another matter, so it's best to spend all your money and let the state look after you. The amount you need to enjoy retirement was discussed recently on another UK forum. Assuming you're mortgage and debt free, most couples think that about £25k (about $35k) after tax is enough to provide a comfortable retirement. I'd recon a bit more, say $50k a year (after tax).

I agree
 
on the other hand we too live in one of the most expensive places , nyc , queens , and our lifestyle cost way more . so this is why these articles that discuss "median " or "average " anything are pretty meaningless .
 
That article, in my opinion, is WAY off the mark! Who writes these "retirement" articles, anyway?? The best retirement cities to live in, the best no-tax states, etc......none of these articles are even close to what the reality of retirement is and what we spend.
 
both on the low side of retirement spending and the high side of retirement spending . many spend more in retirement then they did working . heck , when we worked we had no time to travel . now we have all this time to be out daily and do things in one of the greatest cities in the world . so time can cost money in retirement and one thing we have plenty of is time .

if we could magically double our budget it still would not cover all the things we want to do before we die .
 
Wow... food costs are 30% higher in NoCal ??
With all the good weather, agriculture, dairy and ranching in your state... WHY ??

Labor costs and legal compliance requirements are higher cost. It's also priciest in San Francisco due to geography, traffic, and distances. Certain things are cheaper; others are more expensive because we foodies demand a lot of high-end products. For DH and I it's expensive because we really love good food, I'm a gourmet cook as is my whole family, and we dine out extensively as a hobby.

You can buy a loaf of Wonder Bread at $4 for a 20-oz loaf at Safeway (probably cheaper at Wal-Mart, but nobody I know shops there if they can avoid it, and they usually can). Or instead, artisanal Starter Bakery's Pain de Mie at $10.49 for 27 oz. loaf. Firebrand Bakery's artisanal sourdough French baguette is $5.99 for a 16 oz size.

Kraft's Cracker Barrel White Vermont Cheddar (which I like very much) is $5 for an 8-oz pkg. But I can also buy Jasper Hill's Cabot Clothbound Cheddar at $9.88 for less than 6 oz., from the great state of Vermont and one of the top cheesemakers in the U.S. But better than both (if you're a Brie-type lover like my spouse) is Cowgirl Creamery's Mt. Tam, at $13.99 for 8 oz. Only the French imported Saint Angel is better, IMHO.

It all comes down to what you enjoy in life. Around here groceries can be cheap or expensive, depending on what you buy and where. You can buy a bland commercially-raised chicken in a plastic bag, or you can choose an organic air-chilled free-range chicken, or even a specialty variety like the Chinese black-skinned chicken or yellow-feathered chicken. A fresh-killed chicken is $4.99/lb. but there's nothing better for Hainanese yellow rice and boiled chicken with salt and pepper dip!

We just dined at a high-end butcher shop that has added a full restaurant to its retail outlet. The food was excellent. Peruvian beef heart skewers, Thai green curry chicken soup (super spicy, whew!), lamb burgers with fries, roasted broccolini and a shared dessert, was $83 before the tip. That is in line with prices at other restaurants around town. Figure by the time you buy the organic meats and veggies, do all the prep, grill/simmer/fry/roast/bake all those dishes, you wouldn't save much money trying to make it yourself at home, LOL.

It's a lifestyle choice. Also, don't forget that a lot of Millennials/singles buy deli or pre-prepared foods at supermarkets, which gets lumped in with regular grocery expenditures. For one or two people it often isn't worth cooking at home even if you enjoy doing it, unless you like eating leftovers for days on end (for me, 3 days is the absolute limit, LOL). The San Francisco Bay Area is such a competitive environment that even our delis, food trucks, and hotel restaurants offer quality food.
 
both on the low side of retirement spending and the high side of retirement spending . many spend more in retirement then they did working . heck , when we worked we had no time to travel . now we have all this time to be out daily and do things in one of the greatest cities in the world . so time can cost money in retirement and one thing we have plenty of is time .

if we could magically double our budget it still would not cover all the things we want to do before we die .

Since retiring, we've been pretty busy and don't have all the free time that we'd like, but we do make the best we can of it, and that costs money.
We have enough retirement income to live comfortably - but could happily spend lot more doing the things we never had the time or money to do.
 
Labor costs and legal compliance requirements are higher cost. It's also priciest in San Francisco due to geography, traffic, and distances. Certain things are cheaper; others are more expensive because we foodies demand a lot of high-end products. For DH and I it's expensive because we really love good food, I'm a gourmet cook as is my whole family, and we dine out extensively as a hobby.

You can buy a loaf of Wonder Bread at $4 for a 20-oz loaf at Safeway (probably cheaper at Wal-Mart, but nobody I know shops there if they can avoid it, and they usually can). Or instead, artisanal Starter Bakery's Pain de Mie at $10.49 for 27 oz. loaf. Firebrand Bakery's artisanal sourdough French baguette is $5.99 for a 16 oz size.

Kraft's Cracker Barrel White Vermont Cheddar (which I like very much) is $5 for an 8-oz pkg. But I can also buy Jasper Hill's Cabot Clothbound Cheddar at $9.88 for less than 6 oz., from the great state of Vermont and one of the top cheesemakers in the U.S. But better than both (if you're a Brie-type lover like my spouse) is Cowgirl Creamery's Mt. Tam, at $13.99 for 8 oz. Only the French imported Saint Angel is better, IMHO.

It all comes down to what you enjoy in life. Around here groceries can be cheap or expensive, depending on what you buy and where. You can buy a bland commercially-raised chicken in a plastic bag, or you can choose an organic air-chilled free-range chicken, or even a specialty variety like the Chinese black-skinned chicken or yellow-feathered chicken. A fresh-killed chicken is $4.99/lb. but there's nothing better for Hainanese yellow rice and boiled chicken with salt and pepper dip!

We just dined at a high-end butcher shop that has added a full restaurant to its retail outlet. The food was excellent. Peruvian beef heart skewers, Thai green curry chicken soup (super spicy, whew!), lamb burgers with fries, roasted broccolini and a shared dessert, was $83 before the tip. That is in line with prices at other restaurants around town. Figure by the time you buy the organic meats and veggies, do all the prep, grill/simmer/fry/roast/bake all those dishes, you wouldn't save much money trying to make it yourself at home, LOL.

It's a lifestyle choice. Also, don't forget that a lot of Millennials/singles buy deli or pre-prepared foods at supermarkets, which gets lumped in with regular grocery expenditures. For one or two people it often isn't worth cooking at home even if you enjoy doing it, unless you like eating leftovers for days on end (for me, 3 days is the absolute limit, LOL). The San Francisco Bay Area is such a competitive environment that even our delis, food trucks, and hotel restaurants offer quality food.

for a special occasion we went to the most amazing restaurant on the Rockefeller estate .it is run by a world famous chef and it is a working farm . everything comes from the farm .


the farm experience runs 550.00 without wine or 850 with wine pairing . dinner runs 4 hours and about 20 different dishes grown or slaughtered on the farm make it up . each table gets slightly different dishes .

we waited 1 year for a reservation for 2 and had to take a wed night at 5pm
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there are just 25 tables and there are 25 master chefs in the kitchen . chef barber is very famous and is the owner and top chef . he has a restaurant in manhattan too but it is not the farm experience . it is a more conventional menu.


https://www.bluehillfarm.com/dine/stone-barns
 
for a special occasion we went to the most amazing restaurant on the Rockefeller estate .it is run by a world famous chef and it is a working farm . everything comes from the farm .


the farm experience runs 550.00 without wine or 850 with wine pairing . dinner runs 4 hours and about 20 different dishes grown or slaughtered on the farm make it up . each table gets slightly different dishes .

we waited 1 year for a reservation for 2 and had to take a wed night at 5pm
.
there are just 25 tables and there are 25 master chefs in the kitchen . chef barber is very famous and is the owner and top chef . he has a restaurant in manhattan too but it is not the farm experience . it is a more conventional menu.


https://www.bluehillfarm.com/dine/stone-barns

I ate at McDonald's last weekend after the movie...does that count as "eating out"???? It cost me $9 for my step-daughter and me :)

If ya got it...spend it. I don't. I just try to have a good time no matter what :)

Seriously, though....I don't understand the need to spend big bucks on food. Couldn't that money be put to better use??
 
I ate at McDonald's last weekend after the movie...does that count as "eating out"???? It cost me $9 for my step-daughter and me :)

If ya got it...spend it. I don't. I just try to have a good time no matter what :)

Seriously, though....I don't understand the need to spend big bucks on food. Couldn't that money be put to better use??

it was a gift certificate from all our kids for christmas .

this was such an experience that i would classify it with going to a broadway show . the restaurant and interaction with the chef's provided 4 hours of entertainment by them plus great food far beyond the norm .

while i doubt we would spend more than 1/2 that amount ourselves i thought it was fabulous .

typically a fine steak house runs about 225.00 or so .
 
it was a gift certificate from all our kids for christmas .

this was such an experience that i would classify it with going to a broadway show . the restaurant and interaction with the chef's provided 4 hours of entertainment by them plus great food far beyond the norm .

while i doubt we would spend more than 1/2 that amount ourselves i thought it was fabulous .

typically a fine steak house runs about 225.00 or so .

Life is short...if you can afford luxuries, then enjoy them while you can :)
 
here are some pics i took. 25 master chefs for 25 tables of people . each with a specialty . that duck was swmming only 15 minutes earlier . yes , that is mrs mathjak107

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