Is America a third world country?

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A very large portion of Americans are struggling economically. American society makes profit the priority for health care, groceries, basic housing and utilities. Capitalism is good and a smart and motivated person should have the right to become wealthy and successful. But not at the expense of lower income people not having basic necessities. I'm not a socialist, but there must be a better and more humane way to do things.

Here is a short video talking about this stuff:

 

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Yesterday there was a one-legged panhandler on crutches going whew in the
Heat of a 99F Day. If he had had his prosthetic on I would of given him $5.
A 35-year-old one legged Vet? there on the corner. Spilt trash all over the
far end of the corner, Mt Big Gulps, Kentucky Chicken buckets that sort of stuff.
2 hours later it was a different limper there at that same corner. 'the spilt trash
container had been cleaned up.' Didn't know trash trucks ran on Friday
afternoons after 4 PM.
 

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They walk off the plane, rent a car, rent an apartment, go to 'Goodwills to
buy clothes / Kitchen - stuff they need and live it up. They know our money
have Cell phones and have fine jobs. A Turkish family lives a couple blocks
from me in a $400,000 home and sell furniture from the garage as a sideline.
She is a Professor at the College. Good people live well.

Druggies, Felons are different stories of graft.
 
I don't think we are third world but neither would I consider us the be first world either until we have universal health care like the other 32 developed nations do. So I'd put us as second world. Another characteristic of what I would consider a first world nation are those that make higher education either free, or very affordable. We fail to meet that one too.
 
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What a lovely level headed young lady. Must admit I welled up listening to her. I can't imagine being unable to afford health care in your country, here in the UK at least that's free.

What is it with all this that's happening not just in America but around the globe. Here it's not dissimilar with many lacking money for food and vital necessities etc, 'cept we are a smaller country, but at least we don't have to worry about finding money for healthcare.

I can't comment on whether America is a 3rd world country as I've never lived there. I'm not unaware of what's happening around the globe, and it really saddnes me we're losing so much, there's not much community spirit knocking about any more , and I know some are just giving up and waiting for the end of life.
Despair rules so many lives these days.
It's just too sad.
 
An interesting video. A woman sitting in what appears to be a better than average living situation complaining about living conditions. One room has a very large tv another probably a 36" screen tv. She explains how she traveled & experienced differences in how other countries compare to the U S. <--- Nice to be able to travel so a comparison can be made. Strange that she didn't stay in one of those countries.

Pointing out poverty statistics without describing how to generate jobs that pay an above average wage is pretty lame. She could have described how & why her life is at the point it is now. Then there are parts of America that have better paying manufacturing jobs. Lower paying service jobs are the norm. Obviously opportunity still exists that woman's video sitting in a comfortable place should be a clue that it does.

No America isn't a 3rd. world country, if it was then over the years there wouldn't have been the influx of illegals from all over the world. Thankfully that trend is reversing.

See post #5 in the thread

A touch of Wisdom​

 
Murrmurr said:
She has a lovely little porch, doesn't she. It even has a ramp. I bet that makes taking the baby out in his stroller easy. Plus, she doesn't have to climb stairs when she gets home with groceries and stuff. And, wow! what a lovely view. I'm jealous.

No, America is not a 3rd-world country.
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that was a hotel... she actually lives in an apartment in a fairly run down area in horrible Albania....which she seems to love because it's cheap.

she does a house tour in 1min 25...

Look here...
 
Just another young woman trying to be an influencer and make money without much effort. Nothing about her gives me the impression she knows anything about hard times. Check out her YouTube channel, She is a world traveler and has money coming in from somewhere. You Tube is full of these young ladies looking to make money the easy way. They become experts on disciplines they know very little about. Us oldies, that know the old hippie playbook, can see thru her live free nonsense. Be wild, be beautiful, be free, that is her philosophy. Let others work to provide your free healthcare, that is her ideal.
Raising Wildflowers,
 
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Quackers said:
What a lovely level headed young lady. Must admit I welled up listening to her. I can't imagine being unable to afford health care in your country, here in the UK at least that's free.

What is it with all this that's happening not just in America but around the globe. Here it's not dissimilar with many lacking money for food and vital necessities etc, 'cept we are a smaller country, but at least we don't have to worry about finding money for healthcare.

I can't comment on whether America is a 3rd world country as I've never lived there. I'm not unaware of what's happening around the globe, and it really saddnes me we're losing so much, there's not much community spirit knocking about any more , and I know some are just giving up and waiting for the end of life.
Despair rules so many lives these days.
It's just too sad.
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If she isn't getting free healthcare it's because her income exceeds the eligibility threshold of around $2,900 per month. (for an individual)
 
Trade said:
I don't think we are third world but neither would I consider us the be first world either until we have universal health care like the other 32 developed nations do. So I'd put us as second world. Another characteristic of what I would consider a first world nation are those that make higher education either free, or very affordable. We fail to meet that one too.
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This could be wrong, but it's my understanding that certain of our universities have always lobbied hard against free higher education, lobbied against student loan forgiveness and in favor of dissolving certain educational grant programs, and do what they can to keep the number of free and low-cost skills colleges to a minimum.

That actually makes sense. I mean, it's nefarious, but makes sense.
 
Deya said:
Just another young woman trying to be an influencer and make money without much effort. Nothing about her gives me the impression she knows anything about hard times.
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💯 True. I've seen it happening for years. Someone has a baby... "I can't afford a safer car seat for the baby, but look what I found at WalMart!" Like magic, a viewer sends a car seat. There's one family I used to watch but can't stomach it any longer, that when November came around, the mom started "crying" about not affording many gifts for the kids. "But we have love, so that's all that matters." Yeah, you got it... tons of gifts for the kids to the PO Box the mom said she was sharing if "anyone wants to send a card or letter."

"I don't have friends or family to throw a baby shower for me like other people have." "My microwave broke, but I won't be able to replace it for a few months because of high bills." "I'm so worried tonight because I fear our electric is about to be turned off." Well gee, here comes money pouring in through a Paypal they just happen to have listed. :rolleyes:

There's a name for it... grifting.
 
Murrmurr said:
If she isn't getting free healthcare it's because her income exceeds the eligibility threshold of around $2,900 per month. (for an individual)
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Ahhh, ok I understand that explanation re eligibility threshold criterias. Didn't know it applied to healthcare.
(We have similar for particular benefits, but we get free healthcare).

I'm honestly confused about healthcare over there. But there again our benefits system is confusing and many don't understand ours.

I was understanding if you didn't pay, you didn't get treatment. And without listening again, I thought she said even with health insurance in place you still had to pay for some aspect of healthcare?

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Just read the comments about her being an influencers. Even so, I still agree with stuff she said whether she's an influencer or not. Poverty and not being able to afford even the basics no matter the country, is rapidly rising.
 
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Quackers said:
What a lovely level headed young lady. Must admit I welled up listening to her. I can't imagine being unable to afford health care in your country, here in the UK at least that's free.
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Hope it stays that way for you, Quackers.

Our federal legislative body has pitched national healthcare many times, but to avoid imposing a tax to fund it, those in favor want to be able to redistribute the social security and/or FICA taxes they already collect, which is basically robbing from the poor and elderly. They have discussed reducing military funds, but that isn't floating either.

To fund national healthcare, they're gonna have to create a new tax, and that's a very unpopular proposition.
 
Quackers said:
I was understanding if you didn't pay, you didn't get treatment. And without listening again, I thought she said even with health insurance in place you still had to pay for some aspect of healthcare?
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No. In the U.S., the doctors (or clinics,hospitals) won't tell you the price beforehand. When you go see a doctor, they make you sign a lot of papers, then after the treatment they send a bill to you(or to insurance company) and charge whatever price they want. The insurance companies usually have an agreement on fee schedule with the healthcare providers. You, as an individual consumer, wouldn't know if their price is reasonable or not.
 
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This space thing needs to become World Earth to Space instead of US Taxpayers robbed for 75 years.
Man in space is not a health improvement for them. Ai needs to go there and explore with its abilities.
This Sci-Fi culture of total crap has got to end. Cross country buried in ground high speed rail BS has got to end.
100,000 Jet flight a day has got to end. Video conferencing needs to expand into most everything.
People meet and great just fine. World free health isn't necessarily a good thing, just a put off and wait.
If one wants to experience a sea cruise go get the hose and spray off for hours.

Your 75 burn, go live in a tent and exist free of reprisals.
 
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Quackers said:
Ahhh, ok I understand that explanation re eligibility threshold criterias. Didn't know it applied to healthcare.
(We have similar for particular benefits, but we get free healthcare).

I'm honestly confused about healthcare over there. But there again our benefits system is confusing and many don't understand ours.

I was understanding if you didn't pay, you didn't get treatment. And without listening again, I thought she said even with health insurance in place you still had to pay for some aspect of healthcare?
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Depending on your insurance, generally, you either have a co-pay of 15 to 50 dollars, depending on the type of service, or you pay 20% of the total bill. With some insurances, you have a co-pay plus a share-of-cost, and some have a rather large deductible, $500 to $500, generally, or an annual cap. And you pay a monthly premium, of course, which varies.

In any case, insured, you stand to save 10s to 100s of thousands.
 
hollydolly said:
that was a hotel... she actually lives in an apartment in a fairly run down area in horrible Albania....which she seems to love because it's cheap.

she does a house tour in 1min 25...

Look here...
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Thank you Holly. We are loaded with grifters. But that doesn't mean that all her points should be dismissed. It is obvious to the casual observer that the ultra rich are getting richer and the poor are paying for it. The plan is working.
 
Murrmurr said:
Depending on your insurance, generally, you either have a co-pay of 15 to 50 dollars, depending on the type of service, or you pay 20% of the total bill. With some insurances, you have a co-pay plus a share-of-cost, and some have a rather large deductible, $500 to $500, generally, or an annual cap. And you pay a monthly premium, of course, which varies.

In any case, insured, you stand to save 10s to 100s of thousands.
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Oh bloody 'ell (pardon me), it's all sounds so complicated (which I know benefits are anyway). It's such a shame you don't get free healthcare like we do.

Probably a daft question, what happens if I've no money, no insurance, no job and I get really sick ie treatment carrying on over a long period of time as in months/years, is there a cut off period for the benefit system paying?
 

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