Two children killed in school bus accident

One of the worse jobs of a Trooper is giving a death notice to parents. Watching parents falling to pieces, women grabbing hold of my arms to keep from falling on the floor, or watching dad fall to pieces that he can’t hold his wife went right to my heart and I often cried with them. When I would get home, I would squeeze my kids and wife and thank God my family was safe. We never know if we could be in their shoes someday.
 
911 said:
One of the worse jobs of a Trooper is giving a death notice to parents. Watching parents falling to pieces, women grabbing hold of my arms to keep from falling on the floor, or watching dad fall to pieces that he can’t hold his wife went right to my heart and I often cried with them. When I would get home, I would squeeze my kids and wife and thank God my family was safe. We never know if we could be in their shoes someday.
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And the Memorys stay with you forever...
 
911 said:
One of the worse jobs of a Trooper is giving a death notice to parents. Watching parents falling to pieces, women grabbing hold of my arms to keep from falling on the floor, or watching dad fall to pieces that he can’t hold his wife went right to my heart and I often cried with them. When I would get home, I would squeeze my kids and wife and thank God my family was safe. We never know if we could be in their shoes someday.
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The same for physicians, nurses, paramedics and morticians if they have to deal with dead children.

Some decades ago a coroner was asked in a TV interview and answered that to perform autopsies of dead children is the worst for him.
 
I can't imagine, I don't want to imagine being one of the adults on that bus
trying to keep it together to calm those kids down, heart breaking
 
jimintoronto said:
Why don't school buses have SEAT BELTS? To me, that makes no sense, at all.
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Hi, Jim. Years ago, my best friend was a school bus mechanic and I asked him the same question.

When bus manufacturers crash-tested school and public transportation buses with and without seat belts, they found the crash-dummies that were belted-in showed more serious injuries and fatalities, and, by far, the child dummies were more damaged by the seat belts than the crashes. With a couple of unique exceptions (i.e. nose-dive off a bridge), adding seat belts increased injuries, especially with child-dummies.

Buses are designed to resist overturning and rolling. They can fall onto their sides in certain types of crashes, but they're extremely unlikely to go into a roll and/or land top-side down. They don't have all-wheel drive, the roofs are intentionally high, seats are close together, flame resistant, and purposely thinner than car seats, and they and the frame are reinforced. All that is to minimize injuries and fatalities in a crash.
 
Murrmurr said:
Hi, Jim. Years ago, my best friend was a school bus mechanic and I asked him the same question.

When bus manufacturers crash-tested school and public transportation buses with and without seat belts, they found the crash-dummies that were belted-in showed more serious injuries and fatalities, and, by far, the child dummies were more damaged by the seat belts than the crashes. With a couple of unique exceptions (i.e. nose-dive off a bridge), adding seat belts increased injuries, especially with child-dummies.

Buses are designed to resist overturning and rolling. They can fall onto their sides in certain types of crashes, but they're extremely unlikely to go into a roll and/or land top-side down. They don't have all-wheel drive, the roofs are intentionally high, seats are close together, flame resistant, and purposely thinner than car seats, and they and the frame are reinforced. All that is to minimize injuries and fatalities in a crash.
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That makes sense to me if the bus would ignite getting kids out of belted seats would be time consuming and more likely more tragic.
 
Involved a state vehicle/dump truck and passenger car. Somebody messed up although the collision with the dump truck was 'the' cause.

RIP
 
Such a terrible tragedy. :cry: May those poor little souls R.I.P. and may the families, friends, teachers and classmates of the deceased find comfort from their grief somehow.
 
Murrmurr said:
Years ago, my best friend was a school bus mechanic and I asked him the same question. When bus manufacturers crash-tested school and public transportation buses with and without seat belts, they found the crash-dummies that were belted-in showed more serious injuries and fatalities, and, by far, the child dummies were more damaged by the seat belts than the crashes.
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The 90 second video below is a counterargument to that:

 
Time Waits 4 No Man said:
The 90 second video below is a counterargument to that:

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I can't get that to play for some reason.

I'm having problems w/my PC, though. Maybe that's why. I'll save it to my watch list and keep trying.

Thanks.

edit: Got it to work. Rollover accidents are (arguably) an exception. Some argue that kids can be more seriously injured by the belt than the rollover. In response to that argument, experts say the belts should be lap-only, or designed to automatically unlock under certain circumstances, such as if it wraps around a child's neck.

But I haven't watched that video yet. I will, though, for sure. thankx
 
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