A Federal Court Ruled Safe Injection Sites Legal

I believe they have them in Colorado, I don't have a problem with them. It's a safer and more sanitary way for drug users with a serious habit to get their fix in a supervised way. If they don't have a place like this to go to, they'll do it in parks, alleys and other areas in the neighborhood anyway.
 

I see what you are saying but I can't see many a hardcore addict already on the streets worrying about clean or safe.

I worked in a big older city during the early days of crack. Talk about devastation and mayhem. These sites essentially sort of act like the local drug dealer and where there's drug dealing there are problems. Addicts hangout looking/trying to get that next high which frequently means stealing and robbing. Then hanging out on the streets they become the local restroom. Then residents and businesses that can afford start leaving. Then there are vacant buildings. Vacant building mean drug dealer office and addict hotel.

The big problem with these clinics is the addicts have to go through or hangout in the adjoining neighborhoods to use them with any regularity. What are they going to do in between. Even worse what if they set up camps literally like some of the homeless encampments now in California. And last it validates and enables a problem we should be trying to eliminate, not manage.
 
I can see both sides of it.

I don't think that anyone would like to have a facility like this near their home but a facility like this can put a face on the problem, get people talking about an addicted person's daily challenges/needs and maybe help to keep them a little healthier or get them closer to a recovery treatment program.
 
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I can see both sides of it.

I don't think that anyone would like to have a facility like this near their home but a facility like this can put a face on the problem, get people talking about an addicted person's daily challenges/needs and maybe help to keep them a little healthier or get them closer to a recovery treatment program.
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One of the biggest issues is the fact they don't even have enough rehab centers for those addicts that decide to "kick the habit" and need help, and the wait lists are so long. Thinking no one wants a drug rehab aka "halfway" house in their area either.
 
Are the shooting galleries here in the U.S. for profit or nonprofit? I still don’t understand how the courts knowingly allow these or any injection site to be legal taking into consideration that illicit drugs are also illegal drugs. So, it appears to me that the courts are now legislating laws, rather than adjudicating laws.

What I interpret from this judge’s ruling is that he is saying, “Yes, I know that the drugs these users will be injecting are illegal, but if they use an injection site to shoot illegal drugs, they will become legal.” Huh??

So, if anyone shoots their Heroin into their choice of body part while inside an injection site, all is OK, but if they shoot their Heroin into their choice of body part out on the street, they may be arrested. Really??

And, BTW, who is paying the bill for all the Narcan that will be administered? I understand that a single dose costs around $125.00.

I definitely need to become more educated on this subject before addressing it.
 
As anyone can see from the posts above, our drug addiction system is totally dysfunctional. We can't decide if drug addiction is a crime or disease. What we are doing now, ain't working. Humans love the effects of drugs, without comprehension of their full effect on the body. And addiction is an easily acquired disease. We have to decide if illegal drug addiction is a crime, or if it requires money from our treasury to cure it. Drug addiction is not something that is going away. Drugs are here to stay.
 
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One of the things I learned over the years is that drug addicts and alcoholics actually have to want to quit and sober up. They can't do it for someone else wether it's a person or court system. Some don't how or where to quit, that's where something like this might help.

One thing to keep in mind as Darwinian or harsh as it sounds one of the reasons the drug epidemic seems to have gotten bigger is that in past the over dosing addict couldn't be saved by choice or antidote. By continuing to revive people who overdose multiple times were' keeping addicts & dealers on the streets along with the crime they bring. By the end of the first decade of crack many of the neighborhoods 'calmed down' if you will to the point of being a ghost town and that's because many dealers were killed or arrested and many addicts sobered up or died, the craze ran a more natural course.

One can float to the moon I don't care. Just don't drive, lie, cheat, steal, con, trash up a street or kill for the high or product business.
 
Some folks mention the costs of programs relating to drug use but does anyone wonder what the costs of alcohol abuse amount to or are they too busy pounding down that 6 pack or sucking down some other alcoholic "beverage of choice".

The following statistics are from the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.

Alcohol-Related Deaths:
  • An estimated 88,0008 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.9
  • In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).10
Economic Burden:
  • In 2010, alcohol misuse cost the United States $249.0 billion.11
  • Three-quarters of the total cost of alcohol misuse is related to binge drinking.11


Easy to be critical of things we don't use but less outrage when it's our daily "go to" drink. I assume that there are many people who use various forms of drugs without going over the edge, as with alcohol users. Money wise, we might be better off making both illegal.to make all illegal. But this was tried with booze and it didn't work - same thing today with the "War on Drugs". Hypocrisy at it's finest!
 
I agree alcohol abuse is a huge problem but normalizing a harsher illegal drug is not 'the' answer to an epidemic . The average alcoholic although a pos tends not to commit the multitude of crimes a hardcore drug abuser might. Vehicular manslaughter is a biggie but alcoholics tend not to rob, steal, burglarize or mug with regularity for their substance. Point is the war on drugs is worth it. It's the battles that are being chosen that is creating many issues and unintended consequences.

Although some would argue alcoholic beverage companies and big pharma are just as lethal & criminal as the average drug dealer the culture as a whole has a lot more blood on it's hands if one includes overdoses, dealer murders and addicts committing violent crime in the name of the product & profit.
 

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