Another aviation incident in the USA.

Rakaia

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Credible reports are emerging of a near miss at Chicago airport with a Southwest Airlines plane aborting a landing.
Hopefully an investigation will deem this to be an isolated incident, initial reports suggest it's due to pilot error on the part of the aircraft taxiing on the ground.

Commercial plane aborts landing to avoid collision with private jet in US
 

Looks like the jet may have just barely cleared the other plane. Or not! They made the right move.
I saw the video taken from the runway camera and posted here. I give the pilots of the Southwest plane an atta’ boy. I think by looking at his wings on his shirt, Captain Steve, who is the moderator on the video, flies for American. He has several good videos on YouTube.

Also, please note that the Southwest pilot never let his wheels touch the runway before he began his “Go Around.” Fantastic in my book.

 
Add three more! In the last (about) week, there have been three fires on airplanes. I can't find the links for all of them but saw them on GMA and World News Tonight. In one instance, the cabin filled with smoke and all were safely evacuated. In the other two flames could actually be seen and one woman said she and her husband wound up on the wind using the first exit they took. It's a miracle no one was seriously injured. Here is the latest incident: FedEx flight catches fire after colliding with bird during takeoff from Newark airport
 
I have done several “Go Arounds” during my 33 years of flying at United. This is something pilots practice when we are in a simulator.

My last “Go Around” was in Boston at Logan Airport. It was a nasty windy, rainy, cold day. One of the other controllers gave clearance for takeoff to another plane on the runway that I was preparing to land on. I was on a 2-mile final to the runway when the Controller was very loud over the radio when he said to pull up and go around. My first officer was manning the radio while I was flying the aircraft. I remember him saying to the Controller ——Yeah, we can do that. United 231. ——- I had to laugh.
 
I recall one very abrupt aborted landing on a Delta flight coming into Washington National back in the mid 90s. It was disconcerting to say the least. o_O
 
Yet another incident in the same week. This time an airliner caught fire at the Denver airport which left passengers evacuating or standing on the wings to escape the fire.

American Airlines plane catches fire at Denver International Airport, passengers forced to stand on wing as they evacuate

The crew reported vibrations shortly after take off in Colorado Springs and apparently barely made it to the Denver Airport.

It seems few or no casualties so far-whew.

Also a crash in Texas in a private plan the other day.
 
Private planes crashing happens too often. Many go unreported in the newspapers. A lot of wannabe pilots need additional training. This is why commercial airline pilots continually train in simulators. I probably spent a minimum of 30 or more hours a year. Normally, we were only required to be in the simulators about 10 hours per year or 2 sessions, one every six months.

While in the simulator, different scenarios are setup for us to overcome. I enjoyed my time in these mechanical machines and thought of it as a game. The point here is that training is very important and too many private pilots don’t take advantage when advanced training is offered. The outcome of a private pilot facing a situation that may be new to him sometimes ends in tragedy.

As for “Go Arounds” they happen more often than you probably know. Not all “Go Arounds” are because of incursions on a runway. Many are because the pilot aborted the landing. It may have been the pilot was too low, too soon, or too far down the runway to land without running off the end. It takes practice to land any plane not long after the plane passes the threshold markings, which are the stripes you see at the beginning of the runway. They are on both ends because sometimes we land from the other direction.

I try to write my posts in understandable language. I hope I am doing alright and you can understand what I am trying to tell you. I know we have a few pilots on this forum, so please don’t take anything I write personally. Occasionally, I try to put a little humor into my posts. I do respect all pilots, regardless if they are private or commercial. We are not all a Wiley Post or Amelia Earhart.

Happy flying.
 
The “Go Around” or TOGA, shouldn’t have had anything to do with the wing striking the runway. If there were crosswinds or winds that gusted, those are possibilities. Very little doubt that it was an unstable landing that caused the wing to strike the runway. Jeez!

Tail strikes happen more often than wing strikes.
 
The “Go Around” or TOGA, shouldn’t have had anything to do with the wing striking the runway. If there were crosswinds or winds that gusted, those are possibilities. Very little doubt that it was an unstable landing that caused the wing to strike the runway. Jeez!

Tail strikes happen more often than wing strikes.
That makes the most sense. I was just wondering if the airline has to replace the wing or do they only inspect it?
 
That makes the most sense. I was just wondering if the airline has to replace the wing or do they only inspect it?
The wing will need to be inspected and if necessary it can be repaired, or if it is too damaged, it will be replaced.

Here's the good part. If the wing needs replaced, it will either come from another plane Delta is using for parts, or they may go to the
"Airplane Boneyard" and strip a wing off of a plane sitting and going to waste in the desert. I am glad we are seeing some of those planes being used for the good of the industry and not just rotting away. Yay!!

If you want to see a large Airplane Boneyard, I recommend going to Tucson, AZ. I was there before they halted the tours, but I would have still got in because I was invited to attend by United and the U.S. Air Force gave me clearance to enter the Boneyard. What a wonderful day I had there. Davis-Monthan Air Force Base oversees and guards the Boneyard.

Here is an interesting site to look at and read for any airplane enthusiasts. Airplane Boneyard
 
Another one. Southwest pilot almost took off from a taxi way not a runway. The tower caught it. The plane was switched out for an investigation.

Southwest flight almost takes off from taxiway — rather than runway — at Florida airport
Two pilots in the cockpit and neither one was paying attention. That’s how that happens. Taxiways are narrower than a runway. Even if they missed the signage, they should be able to tell that they are not on a runway. For crying out loud.
 
Overall, flying is quite safe. Every crash results in a comprehensive NTSB investigation that results in improved maintenance and procedures. So less accidents than driving a car.

The problem, however, is that when there is an air crash, it is often quite fatal.
You're right. Every accident that happens, the NTSB finds the cause. If something can be added to the plane to prevent it from happening again, the FAA will sometimes order the manufacturers to take care of it. If the accident is caused by something that happens only occasionally, it's unlikely the FAA will order a change, unless they think it's for safety precautions.
 


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