Anti-tourist sentiment is spreading across Europe

GoneFishin said:
Anti-tourist sentiment is spreading across Europe
Anti-tourist sentiment is spreading across Europe. Is Canada next? - National | Globalnews.ca
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its the lack of affordable homes for the locals that's causing the problem. 3/4 of apartments in Majorca for example are holiday lets.. people born and raised there can't get a home and have to move away

TBH.. I just wonder why the local people buy houses in holiday resorts in the first place..then complain they can't afford to live there...
 
hollydolly said:
its the lack of affordable homes for the locals that's causing the problem. 3/4 of apartments in Majorca for example are holiday lets.. people born and raised there can't get a home and have to move away

TBH.. I just wonder why the local people buy houses in holiday resorts in the first place..then complain they can't afford to live there...
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Around here we refer to that as the "scenery tax" which is a combo of low wages and high rent/home prices. I'm ready for the tourons to be gone out of my local area. They're fine in the winter when most arrive by plane and are restricted to where they can walk or take the bus, but in summer most come in their car or RV so there is no place safe from the masses.
 

againstthegrain said:
Around here we refer to that as the "scenery tax" which is a combo of low wages and high rent/home prices. I'm ready for the tourons to be gone out of my local area. They're fine in the winter when most arrive by plane and are restricted to where they can walk or take the bus, but in summer most come in their car or RV so there is no place safe from the masses.
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yes I agree it's pretty horrible living in a tourist area.. IMO.. i have a home where i lived for a good many years which is close to a tourist area in Spain.. and in summer owners of property on our gated community rent out their second home to holidaymakers.. It got where we couldn't use the Communal pool which we owners pay for all year..and I came to dread the constant rumbling of tourists wheeled luggage coming through our gates every day and night .

We can never get a seat at a restaurant or bar in town during summer.. and the traffic through the village is horrendous...

I understand it all.. however when people buy homes in these type of areas.. they know they are tourist areas so complaining that they can't buy homes for their offspring is a little bit Ironical...especially as it's the tourists money spent there who are keeping ( not my area).. most tourist towns in the best condition than if they weren't there...
 
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With the new pushes for sovereignty and anti-immigrant (which equates to anti-foreigner) are we really surprised?

This is an unwanted consequence of the anti-immigrant crowd putting out the message that foreigners are a problem.
 
againstthegrain said:
Around here we refer to that as the "scenery tax" which is a combo of low wages and high rent/home prices. I'm ready for the tourons to be gone out of my local area. They're fine in the winter when most arrive by plane and are restricted to where they can walk or take the bus, but in summer most come in their car or RV so there is no place safe from the masses.
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"Tourons", that's a great term. :love:
 
VaughanJB said:
With the new pushes for sovereignty and anti-immigrant (which equates to anti-foreigner) are we really surprised?

This is an unwanted consequence of the anti-immigrant crowd putting out the message that foreigners are a problem.
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Globalists are quick to pull these spiteful shenanigans out of their hats whenever their agenda becomes intolerable and people push back.

The old "lie back and enjoy it or you might get injured" argument.
 
It has been for years. For a while it seems they crime under control to a certain extent but I know people who were picket pocketed or had a grab a run done to them over a decade ago along with catching some attitude. Tourist usually a crime target but the extent or amount varies. Not so much anymore.

Same for places like NYC many view foreigners as easy prey. Most started on or victimize on their own.
 
WhatInThe said:
It has been for years. For a while it seems they crime under control to a certain extent but I know people who were picket pocketed or had a grab a run done to them over a decade ago along with catching some attitude. Tourist usually a crime target but the extent or amount varies. Not so much anymore.

Same for places like NYC many view foreigners as easy prey. Most started on or victimize on their own.
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nobody goes to BC anymore. It’s too crowded.

airbnb used to be simple. I have an extra bedroom and bath I rarely use. I rent them out from time to time for some extra money. EZPZ. Now they are buying properties to rent out, charging high rents and often layering on all sorts of fees. Then toss in a cancellation policy that makes it easy to keep the deposit even if the renter cancels a week ahead of time. What a ripoff! My opinion.

Two months ago I spent a week traveling in the west. I had four free hotel rooms based on points and an anniversary free night. Who needs airbnb. Not me.
 
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I see the advertisments on TV, stay in a house, not some hotel room. Well for years, people were fine with a hotel room. Now you have to have your own house and private pool. Why? It's been my experience when on a trip, you are hardly in the room. Just tired at the end of the day. Shower, TV, sleep.

It's like HGTV stating 'oh you have to re-do your bathroom and kitchen every 20 years or it's "outdated." People fall for that garbage.

And who is buying these places to rent out? Is it some single investor or is it corporations or even foreign entities? For those of us who don't have a home they own (did once, big disaster) it's scary. Rents going up and all these jerk politicians saying they care about the American people. If you care so much, stop allowing foreigner investors to buy land here. And put an end to this vacation home mess.
 
VaughanJB said:
With the new pushes for sovereignty and anti-immigrant (which equates to anti-foreigner) are we really surprised?

This is an unwanted consequence of the anti-immigrant crowd putting out the message that foreigners are a problem.
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I must disagree. This is a gross oversimplification of the problems of careless immigration policies. There is plenty of right and wrong on both sides. But in the end a government must put its current citizens first.
 
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Brookswood said:
I must disagree. This is a gross oversimplification of the problems of careless immigration policies. There is plenty of right and wrong on both sides. But in the end a government must put its current citizens first.
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A government must follow it's own justice system, and honor any agreements it is signatory to. SOME current citizens won't like it, but in the real world, it is what it is. There really is no "put current citizens first". In the end we know that "current citizens" are made up of the rich, and the poor. And at the end of the day, no-one much cares about the poor.
 
VaughanJB said:
A government must follow it's own justice system, and honor any agreements it is signatory to. SOME current citizens won't like it, but in the real world, it is what it is. There really is no "put current citizens first". In the end we know that "current citizens" are made up of the rich, and the poor. And at the end of the day, no-one much cares about the poor.
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This is getting way,off topic. You and I will have to agree to disagree on the way Americans look at the poor.

FWIW, my grandparents, father, and two of my children are all legal immigrants. All had to show or have others show for them that they had means to support themselves and would not become public charges.
 
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Rather than rented rooms, the problem is the glut of tourists. The Pyramids have stood for 4 thousand years, but the breath of millions of tourists is destroying tombs & temples, never mind the mounds of trash, and fast food stands. Monster cruise liners dump thousands of passengers on tiny historic destinations, and picturesque little towns, which were never meant to accommodate the horde.
I'm not sure how you could curb the masses equitably.
 
When we were in Venice a few years ago, it was literally shoulder to shoulder tourists. I can see why locals would be annoyed. Having said that, those tourists were eating and drinking in local establishments, buying souvenirs, using tour guides, paying admissions. So if tourism goes, so does tourism money. Tourism is a big business that does not exist without tourists.
 
CarolfromTX said:
When we were in Venice a few years ago, it was literally shoulder to shoulder tourists. I can see why locals would be annoyed. Having said that, those tourists were eating and drinking in local establishments, buying souvenirs, using tour guides, paying admissions. So if tourism goes, so does tourism money. Tourism is a big business that does not exist without tourists.
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Nobody goes to Venice anymore. It’s too crowded.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Rather than rented rooms, the problem is the glut of tourists. The Pyramids have stood for 4 thousand years, but the breath of millions of tourists is destroying tombs & temples, never mind the mounds of trash, and fast food stands. Monster cruise liners dump thousands of passengers on tiny historic destinations, and picturesque little towns, which were never meant to accommodate the horde.
I'm not sure how you could curb the masses equitably.
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Sounds like you're describing little Charlottetown, PEI. Get three cruise liners in at the same time and it's wall to wall tourists.
 
Brookswood said:
Nobody goes to Venice anymore. It’s too crowded.
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Even during November with "aqua alta" there are masses of tourists. My wife and me have been there in March more than 10 years ago and it was awful. I knew Venice from several earlier visits, but my last visit was so disappointing, that I deeply regret it.
 
Even Austrian shop owners and innkeepers are annoyed about tourists.
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