At the grocery store are we being forced to make healthy choices?

JaniceM said:
I haven't been to the local fair, but heard they have interesting products like "deep-fried butter on a stick"... :ROFLMAO:
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LOL !!! At some state fairs they sell deep-fried snickers and deep-fried pancakes. I guess fairgoers always look forward to the annual exotic foods.
 

chic said:
Ouch. I can't afford to spend five dollars extra on gas with gas prices as high as they are. Only one station offers gas for under $4.00 per gallon that I have seen. I'll cope with my nearby store and high food prices. At least they have sales there. :giggle:
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Your gas price is coming down slowly. Today gas was $2.97 at Costco.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I've been eating frozen foods for 20 years, and I ain't dead.
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You're doing fine. Many times the vegetables that are flash frozen at the farm's own plant retain more vitamins than the "fresh" ones that have been traveling for days on trucks. If I'm going to serve veggies cooked I prefer frozen in the microwaveable bag. I also buy chicken tenders, cod and salmon frozen, then take them straight from the freezer to the oven. Less time to grow bacteria that way.

We love salads and fruit though, so I spend plenty of time in produce buying apples, bananas, cantaloupe, lettuce peppers, zucchini, tomatoes, mushrooms, celery, cucumbers, peaches, plums, onions, potatoes, nuts, and avocados. (That was just last Friday) I spend a fortune on produce, if they're trying to make us eat healthy they're not doing a very good job of it at my Kroger, we get away much cheaper on the occasional "fun run" of junk food.

I only buy hamburger about once a month. Then I buy oatmilk, plant based butter and a bunch of Gardein products for my vegan son.

A few nights ago I made hamburger/macaroni for all of us. I boiled a pound of macaroni, then got out two skillets, fried a pound of hamburger in one, fried a chopped onion in each skillet, split a jar of spaghetti sauce between the two, added that fake Gardein hamburger to the other one, added fake cheese to one, real cheddar to the other, got out two casserole dishes and baked them both while boiling some corn on the cob.

What a mess! They sure were happy though.
 
For our meats (real animal meat that is) we buy in bulk, cut up into serving portions, its just us too and freeze them. We do have several freezers.

I am NOT a believer in “fake” food. Plant based is not always heathy as they have to do so much processing to get it to taste like beef, pork, chicken. Whenever I see it, I think of the movie “Soylent Green”. If you have never heard of this movie I suggest you check it out. As I know many people do not click on links, I will not post one but easy to find.

Also remember that Bill Gates is a driving force in the plant based foods He is buying lots of farmland across this country.

My chuckle is that plant items now tell you that they are plant based, like we don’t know that potatoes, carrots and such are plants. Are we that far from knowing about soil planted foods? Again, that’s a rhetorical question.
 
chic said:
I do shop at health food type stores primarily so maybe this is just me, but in recent months I have noticed some alarming changes in the food available in my favorite stores. Are we being forced to chose veggie over meat due to the extremely high cost? Last week I bought some smoked turkey at the deli because it's been so hot here and it saves me from cooking. I chose smoked turkey because it was $2.00 per lb. cheaper than the regular stuff. The other day when I was back there the price of smoke turkey had risen up by $2.00 so all the meats are now $15.00 per lb except roast beef which is $20.
In the ice cream aisle which has always been 4 panels long with every ice cream imaginable, I noticed three of the panels were now NON DAIRY frozen products and only one small panel had actual ICE CREAM which I bought.
In produce I've been buying a lot of potatoes lately trying to cut my grocery expenses. But all the sweet potatoes are ORGANIC or nothing. And they are beginning to do the same with the white potatoes except for russets but they are forcing people to spend more money making healthy food choices deliberately during the worst inflation in decades and we don't have much choice about it except to leave and shop at another store.

Have you noticed this transition at your grocery stores? I'm curious. I prefer to make healthy food choices but money is extremely tight right now and it seems like they are taking unfair advantage of their customers.
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I have a challenge with this items being healthy.
 
Wontactmyage said:
I am NOT a believer in “fake” food. Plant based is not always heathy as they have to do so much processing to get it to taste like beef, pork, chicken. Whenever I see it, I think of the movie “Soylent Green”. If you have never heard of this movie I suggest you check it out. As I know many people do not click on links, I will not post one but easy to find.
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I agree with you to a point, (I really don't think they're grinding up humans) and I think they probably call it "plant based" as a quicker way than listing all those other ingredients. Vegetarians or vegans can pick them up without reading all that.

I don't eat the plant based substitutes for hamburger or fish myself because they often contain a lot of soy and that doesn't agree with me.

My son eats them because he is vegan and it's hard to fill up a 6'4" young man on just beans, rice and salad.
He's vegan, not because he thinks it's healthy, but because he is against killing animals.
 
I'm guessing a lot of the fake foods are for people who eat regular diets as a new area to expand their sales.

I know a couple that are the whole food thing, but they had health problems and they do it because of that. We've eaten with them before and what they served was pretty good really.

All this discussion is making me thing about trying to be vegetarian for a couple weeks and see how it goes. It might help stretch the budget. I don't know if it would be a difficult or not, I like most things and I've been known to eat a meal without any meat or dairy.
 
Flarbalard said:
All this discussion is making me thing about trying to be vegetarian for a couple weeks and see how it goes. It might help stretch the budget. I don't know if it would be a difficult or not, I like most things and I've been known to eat a meal without any meat or dairy.
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It's a great idea, even if you just go vegetarian one night a week:
According to extensive research, if everyone went vegetarian for just one day, the U.S would save 100 billion gallons of water, and we would reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 1.2 million tons of carbon dioxide. According to Environmental Defense, if every American skipped substituted vegetarian food for chicken for one meal a week, the carbon dioxide savings would be equivalent to taking more than half a million cars off of U.S. roads.
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We're meatless several nights a week.

Here's a recipe we all like:
https://www.readyseteat.com/recipes-Zucchini-Black-Bean-and-Rice-Skillet-5623
 
Vegetarians, vegans and those who eat whole food, plant-based (WFPB) diets do so for a variety of reasons, but the the most common are:
1. Health - an overwhelming amount of evidence shows that eating animals and animal products (dairy) are far more detrimental to human health than plant-based foods.
2. Ethics - strong beliefs that animals are sentient beings with a right to be free from pain and exploitation, and deserve far better treatment than our barbaric, brutal modern livestock handling practices. (If slaughterhouse walls were made of glass, virtually all of us would become vegetarians immediately. There's a reason they don't permit video cameras or reporters inside.)
3. Climate change - raising, feeding and managing the waste products of the billions of animals consumed each year has an enormous detrimental effect on our planet.
4. Personal economics - animals and animal products are far more costly to consume than grains, produce and legumes.

Most WFPBs, vegetarians and vegans start out being motivated by one of these factors but eventually align with several of them.

Some eat "fake" and cheeses regularly, but most vegans, vegetarians and WFPBs do so sparingly. DH & I adopted a WFPB diet 7-1/2 years ago. I keep Beyond Meat burgers in my freezer for the (once every other month) occasion when DH & I crave burgers that tastes like burgers. Which they and Impossible burgers do. Tofutti non-dairy sour cream and cream cheese are excellent. Almond milk lasts for many weeks in the fridge. We got used to it almost immediately and don't miss cow's milk. I sure don't miss the triggering effects dairy had on my IBS.
 
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