Raised in a quiet/conservative homeOr did you come from a quiet and conservative home?
Same with mine. After I had foolishly invited a friend over to have dinner, she said to me, "Why was it so tense and quiet at your dinner table?! And why did your dad glare at me when I said how good the food was?!" I said, "You're allowed to talk at your table?!" She dropped me quick after that.My father did not tolerate noise of any kind, let alone normal conversation.
Did you grow up in a boisterous and energetic family? Then, did you raise a boisterous family and are theirs carrying on with that? Or did you come from a quiet and conservative home?
Sister! High fives. I do hope she was a little less like Carrie's Mom than mine was. People think I exaggerate. I do not. She literally ran around the house when she was mad at us when we were in our teens yelling thou shalt not suffer a witch to live! When we were little, it was spare the rod and spoil the child. Ma was scary. I was black and blue my whole childhood and slept with one eye open. If yours was as bad, sister! Again. We survived it! And did better by our offspring. I think we've earned the right to be proud of ourselves.@Blaze Duskdreamer wrote :...
Boisterous would be too polite. There was always screaming and yelling and fighting and not just because they trusted God with birth control and as a result had 8 kids in 10 years time.
My mother did cave when the pill came out in the 60s and despite being fanatically religious gratefully took that miracle after my youngest sister was born in 1962. Perhaps she considered it a miracle. I couldn't blame her if she did. I often remark that if I had given birth 8 times in 10 years, I'd be crazy too. Picture the mother in Stephen King's Carrie and, no, I do not exaggerate though, thank God, I'm not telekinetic.
I wouldn't say we were utterly quiet. My daughter - note one child only - and I were quite talkative but raised voices were far less common though I could yell when she was naughty. Mostly though I took a more reasoned approached to correcting bad behavior. Yelling never, ever took the form of belittling. It was more when there was a need to yell stop right there! What are you doing?
It was tough because I broke the pattern of physical and verbal abuse and had no example set me to go by in doing so. I often thought what would my mother do and did the opposite. My mother would not, for instance, quietly sit me down and explain why that behavior was wrong and shouldn't be done. Nor did she say think before you act and if this will hurt you or anyone else, don't do it.
We talked constantly but talked not yelled. Still do. Grandson has actually said a time or two, please, I can't hear the TV. Me and her, we can talk and still follow the show. Don't ask me how.
But just how noisy can one be when there's only two of us?
Excuse me ...when were you living my life ?.. You've written word for word what I could have written...right down to having only one child, and the only way of knowing how to raise her was to do the opposite of what my parents did.. ...even my baby sister was born in 1962...even my mother didn't take birth control due to religious reasons... and never did actually.. she ended up being sterilised because she almost lost her life with the last one ..almost identical life to mine
High 5 sista..... no my mother never ran around the house screaming.. and altho she never protected us from him, and. she often took a broom handle to me.. it was my father who was the major problem...like you I lived my life with skin which was rainbow coloured.. he broke my back once and refused to allow me hospital treatment.. and like you I could tell tales that would make those who had nice happy family lives..hair curl...Sister! High fives. I do hope she was a little less like Carrie's Mom than mine was. People think I exaggerate. I do not. She literally ran around the house when she was mad at us when we were in our teens yelling thou shalt not suffer a witch to live! When we were little, it was spare the rod and spoil the child. Ma was scary. I was black and blue my whole childhood and slept with one eye open. If yours was as bad, sister! Again. We survived it! And did better by our offspring. I think we've earned the right to be proud of ourselves.
Ooh, ouch. Yeah they were opposites. Dad would scream children should be seen and not heard and was liable to take the belt to you if you disturbed him but for the main part, he just retreated to their room when he was home and tried to pretend we weren't there. He did knock out a tooth that wasn't even loose when I was seven punching me in the jaw without warning for the great crime of watching him shave when he was the one left the bathroom door open. I didn't even yet know men shaved. I stopped short and gaped wondering what Dad was doing and he just turned around and wham right in the jaw without so much as a scram. But mostly he ignored us.High 5 sista..... no my mother never ran around the house screaming.. and altho she never protected us from him, and. she often took a broom handle to me.. it was my father who was the major problem...like you I lived my life with skin which was rainbow coloured.. he broke my back once and refused to allow me hospital treatment.. and like you I could tell tales that would make those who had nice happy family lives..hair curl...
You're right Blaze...we should .. altho we should never have been put into this position.. but yes we've got a right to be proud that we survived despite the evil beings who raised us... and changed that chain of evil from going into the future
Exactly the same with me..I always think people will think I'm exaggerating.. except other abused kids, they know I;m not... but in reality I always stop waaaay short of the full horror of it all ( I have never told the whole story..not even to my husband, and definitely not told my daughter).. because people just would be too horrified, or absolutely not believe that I could still be alive..Ooh, ouch. Yeah they were opposites. Dad would scream children should be seen and not heard and was liable to take the belt to you if you disturbed him but for the main part, he just retreated to their room when he was home and tried to pretend we weren't there. He did knock out a tooth that wasn't even loose when I was seven punching me in the jaw without warning for the great crime of watching him shave when he was the one left the bathroom door open. I didn't even yet know men shaved. I stopped short and gaped wondering what Dad was doing and he just turned around and wham right in the jaw without so much as a scram. But mostly he ignored us.
It was the shoe with my mother. She wore slip on shoes and when she lost her temper with all those children it'd slip off quick as a wink and wham, wham, wham. Wouldn't stop 'til her arm gave out. If you cried, she'd hit you for crying and how could not cry? I thought I was going to die sometimes but, fortunately, her arm would tire.
Sometimes I tell these honest stories and think normal people that didn't endure such things must think I exaggerate and find this all so hard to believe. How could they not? it's got to be totally shocking to those who haven't been there.
Exactly. She was also a slapper as was my oldest sister who was often told to mind us. So I wound up in a situation where I had to tell something to both my daughter and grandson when they were quite young becasue I flinch at hands in my face.Exactly the same with me..I always think people will think I'm exaggerating.. except other abused kids, they know I;m not... but in reality I always stop waaaay short of the full horror of it all ( I have never told the whole story..not even to my husband, and definitely not told my daughter).. because people just would be too horrified, or absolutely not believe that I could still be alive..
BTW my father and his shoes were always a thing as well.. he'd whip a shoe off and throw it at my head for just talking..... my mother would use a slipper to hit with.. as well as the broom handle...
I totally understand...whispering is the one that sets me off..it makes me sick to my stomach... I won't go into reasons why....Exactly. She was also a slapper as was my oldest sister who was often told to mind us. So I wound up in a situation where I had to tell something to both my daughter and grandson when they were quite young becasue I flinch at hands in my face.
Denists are a phobia for that and because one abused me when I was seven so an ordeal to go to and I don't nearly as often as I should. I have finally found a wonderful and understanding one so I'm hoping I'll see him more regularly. He patiently said once a year instead of twice would be fine as long as I came in annually.
But I digress! Bad habit. Toddlers have a terrible tendency to lovingly pat your face and due to flinching and pulling away instintively then seeing their little faces fall at that rejection, I had to tell both something so they wouldn't feel rejected but I did only keep it vague with Mommy/Grammy got slapped in the face a lot when she was little like you so hands in her face scare her. WIth a hug, and I do love you.