Canada may give mentally ill right to assisted suicide

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David Lametti, the Canadian justice minister, centre, said the law would respect people’s autonomy while protecting the vulnerable
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Canada has expanded the scope of its laws on medically assisted death to include people whose demise is not foreseeable and opened the door for the mentally ill to have the procedure.

The law, given royal assent on Wednesday, revamps assisted death in Canada and comes as assisted suicide is legalised in Spain, fulfilling a pledge by Pedro Sánchez, the prime minister. The changes make euthanasia legal in Canada, Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, New Zealand, Switzerland and several US states.

Wish Australia was a forward thinking country like Canada on this touchy subject, only one state has had the guts to make it legal, but you have to be on your last legs in agony before it's allowed. Hope you can see this documentary about an Australian woman aged 90, healthy, who goes to Switzerland to Digitas to end her life.
Laura’s choice https://iview.abc.net.au/video/DC1917W002S00
 

I think Dr. Kevorkian was correct in his thinking. When a person is terminally ill, and there is little or no hope for improvement, people Should have the Right to determine their own "ending". The Only ones who benefit from keeping a person artificially alive are the greedy members of our Health Care Industry.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Having spent much of my life trying to prevent mentally ill people from committing suicide, I wonder how a person has to be so mentally ill to be labeled "mentally ill", but "mentally sound" enough to commit suicide. DUH?
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they can still think for themselves they just have problems. i can understand it because sometimes i find myself wishing i just wouldn't wake up some morning. but i don't wanna swallow a bottle of pills or any of the other methods of suicide. i'd rather just slip away into the nothing.
 
The term 'mentally ill' needs to be correctly defined. That meaningless expression 'learning difficulties' is now in use instead of 'mentally disabled', which is much more accurate. The same applies to those who are suffering from any kind of mental illness. Some mental states, such as dementia are medical illness, while depression is emotional.
A person needs to be rational and fully sane in order to make the decision to end their life.
 
MarciKS said:
sane. i don't know. i think if they're so unhappy they don't wanna be here anymore it would be better they be euthanized than found with slit wrists in the house somewhere by a loved one.
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Yes, I do agree in principle about assisted suicide. It's just that the person needs to know and understand exactly what they are doing before giving consent.
 
I have never agreed with assisted suicide, it is the
thin edge of the wedge and before long somewhere
it will be decided that people over XX years are only
soaking up resources, lets get rid of them!

"Mentally ill" people, are not capable of making
decisions or being held to account for their actions,
at least in a Court of Law, they are not.

Mike.
 
Mike said:
I have never agreed with assisted suicide, it is the
thin edge of the wedge and before long somewhere
it will be decided that people over XX years is only
soaking up resources, lets get rid of them!

I was under the impression that "Mentally ill" people,
are not capable of making decisions or being held
to account for their actions, at least in a Court of Law,
they are not.

Mike.
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This is the point that I have been trying to make. Perhaps I didn't express myself very clearly.
 
Mike said:
I have never agreed with assisted suicide, it is the
thin edge of the wedge and before long somewhere
it will be decided that people over XX years is only
soaking up resources, lets get rid of them!

I was under the impression that "Mentally ill" people,
are not capable of making decisions or being held
to account for their actions, at least in a Court of Law,
they are not.

Mike.
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If you've ever watched an assited suicide in action..like Dignitas .. you will know that the people there are pedantic about ensuring the 'patient'..is of sound mind, right up until the very last seconds, before they are permitted to take the substance which will end their lives..
 
Why Dutch teenager Noa's tragic death was misunderstood
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Noa Pothoven wrote her last Instagram entry days before her death. "Love is letting go," wrote 17-year-old Noa Pothoven in a note to her Instagram followers. A few days later she was dead.

Hers was the dreadful story of a teenager with a desperate mental illness who starved herself to death.
She had once enquired about euthanasia without telling her parents - but was turned away, considered too young and presumably curable.

Euthanasia by a doctor is legal under strict conditions in the Netherlands, but this was not one of those cases.
Global news sites skimmed Dutch newspaper reports and noted that she had once approached an end-of-life clinic.

Her digital feeds were scavenged for photos before headlines were splashed about the "tragic case of a traumatised teenager" who used euthanasia to escape a life of suffering.

Except they were wrong.

Perhaps it was lost in translation by editors dashing to share a story without cross-checking the facts.
Her death was caused by starvation: it was a case of non-interference not intervention…..

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48541233

She couldn't get help so she did what many old people do in nursing homes to bring about their death, they have to resort to refusing food and water and suffer many days until death finally takes them. Our governments scoff at this fact, and count it as a sad statistic, but this the only alternative left to old people with no other choice. It happens more than you know.
 
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I wonder if assisted suicide is in response to the current state of the world and COVID vaccine availability? I wonder why this is an option to rid the planet of nonproductive populations?

There is usually a hidden agenda outside of the obvious.
 
I’ve wanted to die when my understanding of life was hopeless. I have no qualms with assisted suicide under certain circumstances, terminally ill, and at the desire of someone suffering mentally or otherwise.
The concept of people might get better someday is hopeful but not necessarily true. Why not give a person the right and privilege to choose for themselves, it’s their life and what gives another person the authority to choose for them?

If assisted suicide became more available in today’s society, societies view of death may not be so grim and a dying person’s life more appreciated. I watched an assisted suicide in a documentary where family and friends gathered together to celebrate the life soon passed, it was very interesting.

My take on suicide in review of what may have happened as opposed to my life today, I have no preference because the question is inconclusive without knowledge of death.

I believe society overemphasize the importance of life because living is the only thing we know and cling to. In the greater picture, egos are not as important as they portray themselves to be.
 
Over the years we have had to put several pets to sleep due to cancer, heart disease, etc. I will not let them suffer and always relied on our vet to tell us when “it was time.”

As gut wrenching sad and hard as that always was, afterwards I always wondered why we, as a society, allow our human loved ones to linger, sometimes for years, in pain and agony when there isn’t a prayer they will ever get better. That seems bitterly cruel to me.

Because of my own religious beliefs, I’m not sure if I would have the guts to ok assisted suicide for myself, but I would help my husband, if this was something he wanted. I wouldn’t pay...nor could we afford, the cost of legalized assisted suicide...but I would surely investigate and help him put an end to the suffering.

And mental illness...true mental illness... falls under that same category.
 
Kathleen’s Place said:
Over the years we have had to put several pets to sleep due to cancer, heart disease, etc. I will not let them suffer and always relied on our vet to tell us when “it was time.”

As gut wrenching sad and hard as that always was, afterwards I always wondered why we, as a society, allow our human loved ones to linger, sometimes for years, in pain and agony when there isn’t a prayer they will ever get better. That seems bitterly cruel to me.

Because of my own religious beliefs, I’m not sure if I would have the guts to ok assisted suicide for myself, but I would help my husband, if this was something he wanted. I wouldn’t pay...nor could we afford, the cost of legalized assisted suicide...but I would surely investigate and help him put an end to the suffering.

And mental illness...true mental illness... falls under that same category.
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I am keeping the money saved, if ever I need assisted suicide... I don't ever want to be in the position to be suffering such pain that not only can I not bear it for a long period of time, but that I couldn't bear to put my family through watching me suffer...

I feel terribly for those who would like to be able to do it but haven't the funds...
 
hollydolly said:
I am keeping the money saved, if ever I need assisted suicide... I don't ever want to be in the position to be suffering such pain that not only can I not bear it for a long period of time, but that I couldn't bear to put my family through watching me suffer...

I feel terribly for those who would like to be able to do it but haven't the funds...
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There are ways...quick ones
 
MrPants said:
Exactly! Like maybe releasing a virus into the population that will predominately kill seniors... wait a minute :unsure:
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This was my take on the virus at the beginning, but
when I aired it here I poo-pooed and more or less
told not to be stupid.

I remember throughout my lifetime of the Chinese
trying to control their population.

Mike.
 

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