Canada seizes Russian cargo plane, plans to give it to Ukraine

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Canada has ordered the seizure of a Russian cargo plane that has been grounded at Toronto Pearson International Airport since the start of the Ukraine war.

It is the first physical asset of Russia that will be captured by Ottawa under the asset forfeit law and the second under Canada’s overall sanctions regime.

The plane had arrived from China, flying through Russia and Alaska to deliver a shipment of COVID-19 rapid antigen tests but was unable to depart after Canada – like many other countries – closed its airspace to Russian aircraft in response to the Ukraine war.

Sean O’Shea has more on the seizure and the government’s plan to give the plane to Ukraine.
 

RadishRose said:


2,528 views Jun 12, 2023 #GlobalNews #Russia #russiaukrainewar
Canada has ordered the seizure of a Russian cargo plane that has been grounded at Toronto Pearson International Airport since the start of the Ukraine war.

It is the first physical asset of Russia that will be captured by Ottawa under the asset forfeit law and the second under Canada’s overall sanctions regime.

The plane had arrived from China, flying through Russia and Alaska to deliver a shipment of COVID-19 rapid antigen tests but was unable to depart after Canada – like many other countries – closed its airspace to Russian aircraft in response to the Ukraine war.

Sean O’Shea has more on the seizure and the government’s plan to give the plane to Ukraine.
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Nice gift.
 
The "an-124" is a huge plane, much like the Boeing 747. It's main purpose is to carry freight. I think Russia had about 12 of these, but Germany also has 2 (maybe) sitting inside their country?

I think Canada and Germany both will have to deal with international laws before they can actually take possession of the plane. In the past, taking possession of another's country's assets were allowed only if that asset was used in illegal activities. I know the world has changed and much of it not for the better. So we'll have to wait and see how the international courts rule on this takeover. Being that the plane was on a medical emergency mission, I wouldn't place any bets, but since that plane has been sitting so long, I am sure Canada has been racking up storage charges to Russia for having the plane parked at one of their airports.

I would also like to know if the plane will need to undergo any maintenance to make the plane airworthy. A plane like that sitting for a year is not a good thing. It would be the same as if you parked your car in the backyard and let it sit for a year. It may run and it may not. I just don't know.

I always wanted to get inside the cockpit of a Russian plane. Maybe Canada would be willing to open it to the public and make some money charging an admittance fee. I would be willing to pay to get upfront.
 
O Canada! Take that Russian plane!

Feel free to ram it up Putin's butt, and everyone who took Putin's side when he invaded Ukraine, no matter what country their from.
 
What is Canada going to do with it? Cut it up and recycle it for parts or scrap? I wouldn't want to pay the storage bill. I like the idea of opening to the public and charge a slight admission to get inside and have a look around, especially the cockpit.
 
oldman said:
What is Canada going to do with it? Cut it up and recycle it for parts or scrap? I wouldn't want to pay the storage bill. I like the idea of opening to the public and charge a slight admission to get inside and have a look around, especially the cockpit.
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Go back and read the news article at the top of this post. The Canadian Government plans to GIVE the aircraft to Ukraine. JimB.
 
jimintoronto said:
Go back and read the news article at the top of this post. The Canadian Government plans to GIVE the aircraft to Ukraine. JimB.
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In that case, I have to wonder the same thing as Been There said, if the plane is airworthy? The plane sitting that long without even being moved using its own power has the potential to have issues. I am sure it will have to undergo an inspection and certified to be airworthy. Something to follow and see what the Ukrainians do with it.
 
oldman said:
In that case, I have to wonder the same thing as Been There said, if the plane is airworthy? The plane sitting that long without even being moved using its own power has the potential to have issues. I am sure it will have to undergo an inspection and certified to be airworthy. Something to follow and see what the Ukrainians do with it.
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They spoke about that specifically in the video included in post #1.
The only aspect of the seizure that's complete is the legal aspect at this time. The plane isn't going anywhere soon as there's a vast list of specific maintenance issues to be dealt with before it's airworthy. The Feds said they'll likely wave the $1,000.00/Day parking fees that have been racked up at Toronto's airport. Clearly Russia won't be paying those :LOL:
 
MrPants said:
They spoke about that specifically in the video included in post #1.
The only aspect of the seizure that's complete is the legal aspect at this time. The plane isn't going anywhere soon as there's a vast list of specific maintenance issues to be dealt with before it's airworthy. The Feds said they'll likely wave the $1,000.00/Day parking fees that have been racked up at Toronto's airport. Clearly Russia won't be paying those :LOL:
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Here's something to keep in mind. The ICAO and the FAA are compatible with certifying planes for airworthiness, BUT the FAA has the final word here in the U.S. as to what planes may or may not enter our airspace. Planes carry a certification just like you and I carry a driver's license. I don't know this and I don't want to put any false information out on this forum to you good people, so oldman would know better than me, but I was told a few times that the FAA is more serious and very fussy about aircraft they certify to fly in the U.S. Don't take that as the absolute truth. It's just something that I have been told and I do not have an FAA manual, so I can't even check it.
 
The FAA has nothing to do with a aircraft that isn't going to fly into the USA. There are dozens of countries around the world that this aircraft could operate in, besides the USA. JimB.
 
If Canada wants to irritate Russia by seizing a plane, it is a sovereign nation. I wonder about giving the plane to Ukraine. I don't know what they are, but there's all kinds of international laws and treaties, which Canada is a signatory that regulate seized property of warring nations.
 
I don’t personally know what canada is going to do with it , I’m just proud that they are trying to intervene in a positive way . The intention is a good one.
 
Been There said:
Here's something to keep in mind. The ICAO and the FAA are compatible with certifying planes for airworthiness, BUT the FAA has the final word here in the U.S. as to what planes may or may not enter our airspace. Planes carry a certification just like you and I carry a driver's license. I don't know this and I don't want to put any false information out on this forum to you good people, so oldman would know better than me, but I was told a few times that the FAA is more serious and very fussy about aircraft they certify to fly in the U.S. Don't take that as the absolute truth. It's just something that I have been told and I do not have an FAA manual, so I can't even check it.
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Oh, Boy. Let me think for a minute. The ICAO sets the standards for airworthiness and the like, but each nation cherry picks what they will or won't accept from their set of rules and regulations. Here in the U.S., the FAA makes the call as to what nation's planes will be accepted into our country. Military planes do not fly under the direction or rules of the FAA. This is why Air Force One is listed as a military aircraft. They can go beyond the bounds of commercial airlines, although they are still subjected to filing a flight plan.

Each commercial plane in the U.S. must have an airworthiness certificate on a yearly basis. If the plane already has an airworthiness certificate, it just needs to be renewed, after it has been inspected. I am simplifying this. There is more to it. I make it sound like the company just slaps a sticker on it and off the plane goes.
 
isn't giving it to Ukraine a symbolic gesture - giving it back to Russia would be seen as supporting Russia too much - but they could give it to any other nations - giving it to Ukraine will immensely annoy Russia and may result in unexpected/unknown consequences
 
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