Crowds banned again in Wales....Furry Furious...

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So late last night,flying in the face of no further restrictions being announced in England,our FM decided we had to be different and announced that from Boxing Day crowds are banned at all sporting events in Wales.
This leaves me absolutely fuming.Triple jabbed and got my Covid Pass because that would mean having a life and now I discover I was lied to and my life is to become one of merely existing again.
To me this means Wales is now back in lockdown.....I am already feeling very depressed at the thought of my beloved semi professional Newport RFC playing without me there( which is worse than not playing at all to me).
I barely survived 15 months of merely existing.
I have no idea how I am going to handle this.
No Merry Christmas here.Or Happy New Year.
I am assuming my New Year concerts are now also gone.
I suppose I am supposed to be grateful I had a few months of fun.
I am apoplectic :(
 

As someone who has also received double vaccinations and the booster, I really feel for you. We haven't gone to lockdowns in the US, but it is feeling like March 2020 all over again. Very depressing. I can't even imagine how this feels for you. I'm so sorry that you are having to go through this again.
 
Furryanimal said:
So late last night,flying in the face of no further restrictions being announced in England,our FM decided we had to be different and announced that from Boxing Day crowds are banned at all sporting events in Wales.
This leaves me absolutely fuming.Triple jabbed and got my Covid Pass because that would mean having a life and now I discover I was lied to and my life is to become one of merely existing again.
To me this means Wales is now back in lockdown.....I am already feeling very depressed at the thought of my beloved semi professional Newport RFC playing without me there( which is worse than not playing at all to me).
I barely survived 15 months of merely existing.
I have no idea how I am going to handle this.
No Merry Christmas here.Or Happy New Year.
I am assuming my New Year concerts are now also gone.
I suppose I am supposed to be grateful I had a few months of fun.
I am apoplectic :(
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The more people comply with, the more the government will give them to comply with.
 
Furryanimal said:
So late last night,flying in the face of no further restrictions being announced in England,our FM decided we had to be different and announced that from Boxing Day crowds are banned at all sporting events in Wales.
This leaves me absolutely fuming.Triple jabbed and got my Covid Pass because that would mean having a life and now I discover I was lied to and my life is to become one of merely existing again.
To me this means Wales is now back in lockdown.....I am already feeling very depressed at the thought of my beloved semi professional Newport RFC playing without me there( which is worse than not playing at all to me).
I barely survived 15 months of merely existing.
I have no idea how I am going to handle this.
No Merry Christmas here.Or Happy New Year.
I am assuming my New Year concerts are now also gone.
I suppose I am supposed to be grateful I had a few months of fun.
I am apoplectic :(
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Such a sad situation.
I hope things improve
 
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chic said:
That's really lousy furry. People look forward to Christmas festivities and have them snatched away. It's a bummer. :(
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it's precisely what happened here last year. Just days before Christmas and despite their protestations of not calling a Lockdown..they did, and all the pubs and restaurants, nightclubs and big venues lost their livelihoods... and many never recovered. My favourite pub amongst them ....and of course what was even worse was that many didn't get to spend last Christmases with loved ones...

Boris said yesterday he's not going to cancel Christmas this year... but I still think he'll cancel new year...and the venues who were hoping these last few months to make their money back at new years this year.. will lose out again...

It's horrible that none of us can even travel abroad .. without being unable to enjoy an evening at a theatre, or pub or restaurant...
 
hollydolly said:
it's precisely what happened here last year. Just days before Christmas and despite their protestations of not calling a Lockdown..they did, and all the pubs and restaurants, nightclubs and big venues lost their livelihoods... and many never recovered. My favourite pub amongst them ....and of course what was even worse was that many didn't get to spend last Christmases with loved ones...

Boris said yesterday he's not going to cancel Christmas this year... but I still think he'll cancel new year...and the venues who were hoping these last few months to make their money back at new years this year.. will lose out again...

It's horrible that none of us can even travel abroad .. without being unable to enjoy an evening at a theatre, or pub or restaurant...
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You will be okay in England because(and it’s difficult to avoid politics here) Boris cannot now enforce anything without a vote in Parliament.And I really think that if he went for a full lockdown he wouldn’t get the vote passed.
And with no furlough scheme-which they can’t afford-he can’t close everything.
Which is true in Wales too....any money for a furlough scheme would have to come from London.
So my semi pro rugby team will still be playing.And the players will have to be paid..with no gate money,no money from the bar or catering.Impossible.
And if we decide to suspend the league then if a furlough scheme did come along(it won’t) no money will be forthcoming because it was not a government decision.
 
the trouble is Furry..he's already caused huge problems for venues, because he's put the fear of God into people enough so they've cancelled their bookings..Pubs who had bookings for dozens of people for Christmas and new Year lunches and dinners have had cancellations right and left . Even the London history museum has closed it's doors...

On the other side of the coin, my Latvian neighbour whose sister is a nurse in rural Latvia , said that the hospitals there have very little patients due to Covid this year, instead their hospitals are full of people with broken bones, due to the govt WFH rule, preventing road maintenence workers from clearing the ice from the pavements and roads..
 
hollydolly said:
the trouble is Furry..he's already caused huge problems for venues, because he's put the fear of God into people enough so they've cancelled their bookings..Pubs who had bookings for dozens of people for Christmas and new Year lunches and dinners have had cancellations right and left . Even the London history museum has closed it's doors...

On the other side of the coin, my Latvian neighbour whose sister is a nurse in rural Latvia , said that the hospitals there have very little patients due to Covid this year, instead their hospitals are full of people with broken bones, due to the govt WFH rule, preventing road maintenence workers from clearing the ice from the pavements and roads..
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That has happened.....all over the UK but the Daily Mail have an article showing that the current panic is entirely deliberately induced with a SAGE member actually admitting they were deliberately producing worst case scenarios to scare people into accepting more lockdowns and to ‘get things done’
Will go and find it.
This is the relevant and interesting part of a long article


Professor Keith Willison, a chemical biologist at Imperial College London, slammed the models as 'widely pessimistic' and 'fraudulent'.

He told MailOnline: 'Well, the chairman of the SAGE modelling (Graham Medley) committee admitted at the weekend: "We model scenarios that are useful to decisions".

'These worst case 'scenarios' are produced so the behavioural group in SAGE can frighten the UK population into submission and further lockdown.

'The Covid death scenarios are wildly pessimistic, I would say fraudulent. The Omicron variant symptoms are also mild. I think we are arriving at a good place where Covid is an endemic but controllable disease.'

Professor Anotida Madzvamuse, a maths expert at Sussex University, warned SAGE's estimates were at best 'highly unlikely', with current data not supporting 'such a grim forecast'.

He told MailOnline: 'From my point of view, these figures are highly unlikely, the numbers to-date seem to suggest very low deaths due to Covid and even the number of hospitalisations are nowhere near what we experienced last winter.

'The data on the ground does not support such a grim forecast. All these assumptions are pretty much hypothetical, they are not inferred from the data as we normally do with our modelling
 
Furryanimal said:
That has happened.....all over the UK but the Daily Mail have an article showing that the current panic is entirely deliberately induced with a SAGE member actually admitting they were deliberately producing worst case scenarios to scare people into accepting more lockdowns and to ‘get things done’
Will go and find it.
This is the relevant and interesting part of a long article


Professor Keith Willison, a chemical biologist at Imperial College London, slammed the models as 'widely pessimistic' and 'fraudulent'.

He told MailOnline: 'Well, the chairman of the SAGE modelling (Graham Medley) committee admitted at the weekend: "We model scenarios that are useful to decisions".

'These worst case 'scenarios' are produced so the behavioural group in SAGE can frighten the UK population into submission and further lockdown.

'The Covid death scenarios are wildly pessimistic, I would say fraudulent. The Omicron variant symptoms are also mild. I think we are arriving at a good place where Covid is an endemic but controllable disease.'

Professor Anotida Madzvamuse, a maths expert at Sussex University, warned SAGE's estimates were at best 'highly unlikely', with current data not supporting 'such a grim forecast'.

He told MailOnline: 'From my point of view, these figures are highly unlikely, the numbers to-date seem to suggest very low deaths due to Covid and even the number of hospitalisations are nowhere near what we experienced last winter.

'The data on the ground does not support such a grim forecast. All these assumptions are pretty much hypothetical, they are not inferred from the data as we normally do with our modelling
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not in the least surprised, I suspected as much
 
chic said:
It must be different in Wales, I guess. Even in crowds where I live people have stopped complying. It's just over.
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We are talking sporting events here.
Shops.pubs,cafes etc are crowded.But there is another announcement tomorrow about hospitality..
 
Furryanimal said:
We are talking sporting events here.
Shops.pubs,cafes etc are crowded.But there is another announcement tomorrow about hospitality..
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I have no love for Boris but sporting events are effected by COVID infections among players resulting in disruptions: (cancelations, postponements, teams playing with backup players, etc.)

"Tottenham [Hot Spurs] are out of the Europa Conference League after Uefa ruled they forfeited their final match against Rennes.

The match on 9 December was called off following a Covid outbreak, with 13 positive cases at the London club."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59725177

In the US:

The NHL [National Hockey League] is beginning a leaguewide shutdown Wednesday amid a rise in positive COVID-19 test results among players, and with 10 of the league’s 32 teams’ schedules already paused and their facilities closed.

The league announced Monday night that it will open its annual holiday break two days earlier than scheduled and have it run through Saturday. The decision, reached in coordination with the NHL Players’ Association, means five additional games scheduled for Thursday will be postponed, bringing the total this season to 49.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...style-health-3076c3f933a91c5e40b027c0fb800022

**National Basketball Association Brooklyn Nets have all three star players in COVID protocol where they can't play for 10 days until a negative test. As a result, bench players are trying to win games which is a heavy lift.

**I bet lots of people were hoping to enjoy a show on Broadway for the holidays but COVID infections has been decimating cast members:

"Broadway has taken a major hit this week after several shows have had to cancel some performances, and now, "The Christmas Spectacular Starring the Radio City Rockettes" has had to cancel all of its remaining shows in 2021 due to COVID cases."

https://abc7ny.com/rockettes-the-christmas-spectacular-radio-city-broadway/11352219/

UK travelers who wanted to ski in France for the holidays are out of luck.

**Finally, Israel just banned all travel to the US.

https://news.yahoo.com/israel-lawmakers-approve-us-travel-112417452.html
 
Furryanimal said:
This leaves me absolutely fuming.Triple jabbed and got my Covid Pass because that would mean having a life and now I discover I was lied to and my life is to become one of merely existing again.
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This is a situation for "Plan B". I learned about that in a parenting book. For example, the family plans a Saturday trip to the beach, you are all in the car, the kids are pumped about going to the seashore. Then you get closer to the one bridge out toward the coast and traffic is at a complete standstill. You check the traffic news and find out it will be a couple hours just to get over the bridge. So, the good parent creates a Plan B, like getting off at the exit and exploring the little towns and finding some fun old place that results in the kids having a happy lasting family memory.
I found it very useful advice. I took my kid to Yellowstone once on a family trip and all the animals decided to go into hiding or something! The only animals we saw were a chipmunk and a crow (very nice sociable crow). But, Plan B was discovered, a town called "West Yellowstone", so we went there and my kid got to feed bears, and there was an old timey candy store (which I really enjoyed too!), and a place to get our pictures sitting on a stuffed moose.
 
Wales is threatening £60 fines for employees making 'unnecessary' trip to work under new anti-Omicron laws - but going to the pub is still allowed.

From Monday, employees will be handed the fixed penalty notice and companies will face a £1,000 fine for each time the rule is broken, rising to a potential £10,000.

The new health protection restrictions will make it an offence for 'failing to work from home where reasonably practicable to do so'.

However, critics have pointed out that under the rules, Welsh people can still legally visit pubs, shops and restaurants and not face the same punishment.


Wales will issue fines to workers who refuse to work from home without a good reason, First Minister Mark Drakeford has announced
Up until now, the Welsh government had advised working from home but the new measures will enforce everyone to stay away from the office unless it is essential.
The draconian rules were enforced due to sharply rising cases of the Omicron variant.
But some fear that staff may now be put off working altogether for fear of getting a criminal record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-FINES-going-work-new-anti-Omicron-rules.html
 
hollydolly said:
Wales is threatening £60 fines for employees making 'unnecessary' trip to work under new anti-Omicron laws - but going to the pub is still allowed.

From Monday, employees will be handed the fixed penalty notice and companies will face a £1,000 fine for each time the rule is broken, rising to a potential £10,000.

The new health protection restrictions will make it an offence for 'failing to work from home where reasonably practicable to do so'.

However, critics have pointed out that under the rules, Welsh people can still legally visit pubs, shops and restaurants and not face the same punishment.


Wales will issue fines to workers who refuse to work from home without a good reason, First Minister Mark Drakeford has announced
Up until now, the Welsh government had advised working from home but the new measures will enforce everyone to stay away from the office unless it is essential.
The draconian rules were enforced due to sharply rising cases of the Omicron variant.
But some fear that staff may now be put off working altogether for fear of getting a criminal record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-FINES-going-work-new-anti-Omicron-rules.html
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And he has said people who work in England should follow the rules of the country they live in.
So if your English employer insists you come to work you can be fined for doing so.And if you don’t you get sacked.....We have another announcement at lunchtime.
While no furlough scheme means there cannot be a full lockdown I am expecting as many restrictions as he can get away with.
He has recalled the Assembly which is worrying.
 
Furryanimal said:
So if your English employer insists you come to work you can be fined for doing so.And if you don’t you get sacked..
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It’s highly unlikely the government would allow a company to do that … the company would be in too much trouble.
 

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