Do things happen for a reason?

Mr. Ed

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Obviously things happen for a reason. For something to happen there must be a reason or cause that propitiates the final result. Not an accurate conclusion because whatever the hypothesized result might be is in itself propitiates an additional result and so on and so on. You might say every single event in a person's past and the universe creates present and future events big or small.

Looking at life this way makes you see how important you and I are as part of the bigger picture.
 

Yes and no. Random events happen everywhere scholars tell us. The word reason has 2 meanings a cause and purpose. I don't know about purpose as such but it is very plausible. Most things have causes even if we do not understand it. Free will exists but not as much as people think it does. You can choose any shirt to wear. Physicists say universe includes chance throughout
It makes me think I am a nothing in the cosmos
 
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Mr. Ed said:
Obviously things happen for a reason. For something to happen there must be a reason or cause that propitiates the final result. Not an accurate conclusion because whatever the hypothesized result might be is in itself propitiates an additional result and so on and so on. You might say every single event in a person's past and the universe creates present and future events big or small.

Looking at life this way makes you see how important you and I are as part of the bigger picture.
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Why do you conclude "obviously things happen for a reason"? :unsure: How do you know? Maybe it's random?
 

Then there is the “why” that allows an abuse victim to trust again? What is the “why” that moves a crime victim to refuse to walk the same street they were mugged on before? Wrong place, wrong time. Random?
 
Sometimes things happen because we cause them to happen by word or deed. Other times, things happen to us because of others. Sometimes, it's just happenstance.
 
Do things happen for a reason, yes, I would say. For if a thing did not happen, there would not be a reason to exist. Things happen in the land, so things will change you see. Trees become taller; rocks become smaller. Tall stories become taller, little stories are of less cause. When something causes trouble and distress, misfortune may reassure that there is a better trail upon which to tread.
 
Yes ..i think they do…..the reason….I will never know
it seems to me ,only the sad things happen to good people
nothing to the ???
 
Hello, Mr. Ed

“A horse is of course a horse, when talking to Mr. Ed”😂
(BTW, I absolutely adore the show, “Mr. Ed”.)

Returning to the topic; I’m disinclined to agree, with your statement, “Obviously things happen for a reason.”

My personal sentiments lean towards the following:

“The saying that everything happens for a reason is the modern, New Age version of the old religious saying: “It’s God’s will.” The two sayings have the same problem—the complete lack of evidence that they’re true.”

Unforeseen circumstances, phenomenon, that occur;[are] simply unpleasant aspects of inexplicable universal aura.

In any case; I am inclined to agree with you, regarding the latter part of your statement:

“You might say every single event in a person's past and the universe creates present and future events, big or small.”

I believe this true; due to the infinite sway and prevalence of unconscious, human deficiencies and its vast influence to alter internal and external quality of life.

Our exterior existence is a mere manifestation, an afterthought, of deed and decisions we make whether voluntary, or involuntary; by way of, or not, of internal subconscious streaming.

Thus, “every single event in a person’s past” does invariably deeply affect the absolute sum of positive and negative choices that influence “present and future events, big or small.”

I think it’s healthy to merely accept the fact, that many outcomes occur simply due to merging, crossings, of the unforeseen, accidental change, and human fragility combined.
 
There are reasons things happen. The reason can be tiny as with the butterfly effect. So yes things happen for reasons, at least they often do. BUT...

I knew a guy from an AA meeting who commented on the frequency of suicide among AA members, and said that God put those people in his life to show him just how serious alcoholism can be. It's true, there were reasons (which we may not understand) that cause alcoholics or anyone else to commit suicide. But be careful about assigning reasons that happen to fit your personal narrative, but may be something else entirely. A person may believe everything is preordained in some mysterious master plan, but that is a belief, NOT a reason.

Also, some things can be random. Even something that happens 100 years later because a butterfly flapped it's wing with just the right tilt at a certain time of day has to make room for that original flap of the butterfly's wing to be an entirely random event.

People die of cancer because cancer is inherent in the flawed design of biological cells that causes them to reproduce in an uncontrolled manner. People don't die of cancer to make us stronger or to punish us for our sins. If you're dead set on assigning causes, don't just make them up.
 
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Why do you conclude "obviously things happen for a reason"? :unsure: How do you know? Maybe it's random?
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Obviously things happen for reason? Have you played pool or gone bowling? When the Que ball hits the 8 ball the reason for the 8 ball hypothetically moving toward the corner pocket is because the Que ball was set into motion by the shooter. The shooter moved the Que ball that ultimately moved the the 8 ball. Previous events shape contribute to present events. The reason things happen is an accumulation of past events and the will to choose.

My statement regarding obviously everything happens for a reason according to laws of physics for every action is a reaction, cause and effect is the reason for things happeng.
 
@Old_Dame in your explanation, "It"s Gods Will" is an effort to accept whatever life brings because God wills it so. On the other hand why not take life as happens based on intellectual reasoning? God's will is a broad statement that can be modified to suit anyone's needs and desires.
 
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Obviously things happen for reason? Have you played pool or gone bowling? When the Que ball hits the 8 ball the reason for the 8 ball hypothetically moving toward the corner pocket is because the Que ball was set into motion by the shooter. The shooter moved the Que ball that ultimately moved the the 8 ball. Previous events shape contribute to present events. The reason things happen is an accumulation of past events and the will to choose.

My statement regarding obviously everything happens for a reason according to laws of physics for every action is a reaction, cause and effect is the reason for things happeng.
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That's physics, but I don't believe the universe cares about US that much. When you listen to some, they would have you believing everything is controlled by us by our thoughts but I don't think so. Just my opinion.
 
@Mr. Ed

“@Old_Dame in your explanation, "It"s Gods Will" is an effort to accept whatever life brings because God wills it so. On the other hand why not take life as happens based on intellectual reasoning? God's will is a broad statement that can be modified to suit anyone's needs and desires.”


Mr. Ed,

To avoid misinterpretation, or error, in our dialogue, and to prevent us (me) from starting off on the wrong foot; it behooves me to inform you, that I am unclear as to what you are asking.

I wonder if you might be so kind to rephrase your question, and lend distinctive clarity, so I do not misinterpret your meaning. I shall refrain from answering until then.

As, I feel it would be a tremendous shame to begin badly, especially since your initial post (topic) ranks high among my favorites, thus far.

I appreciate its intellectual value, and feel it offers an ideal dive into refreshing open-minded thinking, and pursuit of personal truth, and definition; as varied and vast as the stars.
 
Do things happen for a reason?
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Some things happen for a reason when there is conscious planning by an intelligent creature, or due to natural cause & effect events.
Other things just happen randomly, without any observable cause.
 

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