Do you agree with Dr. Ben Carson that poverty is just a state of mind? a myth?

"Poverty" and "wealth" have both been part of the human experience forever. Some people are born with two strikes against them, while others seem to be blessed with luck. If a person doesn't avail themselves of the opportunities presented to them, they will probably Never achieve much in life. Good jobs, with decent wages, will continue to be increasingly hard to find, as technology and automation continue to take over tasks which once made the Middle Class the mainstay of society. That, coupled with runaway population growth, means that there will be more and more people competing for fewer available jobs....which is going to also suppress wages.

On the other hand....there are millions of jobs available Today, that are going unfulfilled....primarily because there is a shortage of people with the needed skills to fill those jobs. Many are in the areas of manufacturing and the "trades", which pay good wages, but there are not enough people will the skills to fill these jobs. This continues to be one of the reasons why so much of our manufacturing keeps going overseas. Some of the blame can be placed upon our education system which no longer prepares the students for any kind of manual labor....it seems that everyone Must have a college degree, even though half those degrees are in studies that are of little practical value. Then, too, our schools have been forced to become "politically correct", and the teachers must teach to the lowest level in the classroom, which leaves the brighter students with little to challenge their intellect.

Sooo...Ben Carson is only partially correct. Poverty is often due to a "state of mind" that creates an unwillingness to work hard and achieve something....but, poverty is going to become an increasing problem as fewer opportunities are presented for people to achieve success.

Great post, putting a clear perspective on the mechanisms in place. As the world population increases and pressure on upward mobility becomes greater, the squeeze on global economic resources will become more intense. Successful economic development is a function of opportunity plus available skilled workforce. Unfortunately, some regions of the world(due to political corruption+widespread disease) will continue to struggle to achieve a standard of living that can support successful economic growth.
Health, particularly "good" health is an important factor in the success of a population. In areas of the world where Dengue Viral infections is widespread, millions of people are too ill to be economically productive. All the "state of mind" isn't going to help those infected achieve greater financial success.
 

I've seen individuals who take advantage of 'the system,' don't work or do anything when they could and should.
I have some first hand knowledge of someone 'in the system'. A major problem is that the 'system' is configured for 'all or nothing', making it very hard to get out. Get a part time job in hopes of it becoming full time with benefits and you lose virtually all your system benefits, leaving you worse off.
I admit that someone 'taking advantage of the system' is doing more than the ones that don't, possibly doing the best they can in the circumstances they are in. But that's not to say I condone abusing the system by lying or flat out illegal things.
 
I suspect that he didn't mean any put down of persons in tough straits. Poverty can be a state of mind that can keep a person thinking they can't overcome whatever state of poverty they're in. Some might think that there is no help out there for them that can help lift them to a better life. Then there are others who just don't want to try--have no interest in doing so.

This brings to mind that not having enough healthful food due to my mother's struggles to try to make enough money to afford healthful food, but couldn't & even though I developed a vitamin deficiency, my attitude (as a 9 year old) I didn't have thoughts of poverty. It was just life, no big deal.

No matter the bad (sometimes ugly) things that happened to me growing up I never even thought about them when I went for ways to fulfill my dreams. (My Essential Tremor shaking put a stop to most dreams I had--but that's life.)
 
Don M. I recall listening to Paul Harvey on the radio (yearrrs ago) say something about how there were many job ads in the newspapers so there was no excuse for anyone to be without a job. This really angered me because I had read those jobs & saw that so many of them required pre-experience. After hearing his self-righteous put down of people who were not employed, I felt like smacking him. lol
 
Don M. I recall listening to Paul Harvey on the radio (yearrrs ago) say something about how there were many job ads in the newspapers so there was no excuse for anyone to be without a job. This really angered me because I had read those jobs & saw that so many of them required pre-experience. After hearing his self-righteous put down of people who were not employed, I felt like smacking him. lol

You don't need to dwell on a 20 yr. old comment by Paul Harvey...just look around at what's happening today. There are Help Wanted signs and ads all over the place. Just a couple of days ago, I was watching a commentary on CNBC...they were interviewing a business owner in Ohio, who supplies components for an auto manufacturer. He was trying to find Welders, and offering a starting salary of $36 an hour, and not having much luck filling his job openings. Simple math shows that $36/hr translates into almost $75K a year. That is NOT an isolated example....presently there are almost 6 million jobs, nationwide, that are going unfilled, simply because there are not enough people with the skills to take those jobs. However, there are thousands of college graduates every year...with Liberal Arts degrees, etc., that can qualify for Food Stamps.
 
"...that qualify for food stamps..." I should probably not have chuckled from that comment, but it's so ridiculously true to life, I couldn't help but laugh. Trade schools I think are the way to go for youths preparing for getting hired for the jobs employers are so in need of employees trained to do them.\

Back when I was 18 I was hired for various jobs in the order dept. of Oscar Meyer and was trained to do each job, while doing each. No training on the job anywhere anymore, I think?
 
We had some in the Army that honestly could not be taught many things, how they got in was a mystery, we had to remove them form tasks that their ignorance could result in harm to others they were not capable of learning. Some are not especially whey they are of the want it free mindset.
 
What does he think...that people wake up and say "Oh I think I want to be poor today". I have seen where some very stupid things come out of that man's mouth! Try telling the mother with two children who works two jobs and still can't make ends meet that poverty is a "state of mind". Try telling that man who walked miles back and forth every day that poverty is a "state of mind". Like someone said...he needs a reality check. Try telling the young people who have been feverishly looking for work but can't find decent jobs that poverty is a "state of mind". Maybe he should do what Sen. Corey Booker (then mayor of Newark, N.J.) did and live off a food stamp budget for awhile. We'll see what his state of mind is after that
 


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