Dr. Robert Malone

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Dr. Robert Malone, creator of mRNA technology has now been banned from twitter. Dr. Malone believes the vaccines were not intended for broad use as governments have initiated but for the old and vulnerable. He was outspoken against vaccinating children and believes the vaccines are causing the variants through ADE, antibody dependency enhancement much like antibiotics were overused decades ago. His censorship will be a sad loss for those of us who learned something from all he had to say. When experts are censored, it makes you worry. :unsure:
 

I too, like Robert Malone am miffed that I am not recognized for invention of the Robot Vacuum Cleaner. I was derided for such an outlandish idea back in the 1970s. Yet there they are on department store shelves everywhere to the lurking horror of thousands of dogs and cats.
 
HarryHawk said:
Never question "The Science". Just ask Copernicus and Galileo and the folks who lived during the Dark Ages.

Science welcomes contrasting theories, open debate and the free flow of ideas. "The Science" does not. "The Science" seeks to ban and censor; it is absolute and unquestionable.
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Galileo was absolutely vilified and never lived to see himself exonerated. :mad:
 
Most of any doctors or scientists that questioned anything about these vaccines have been shut down.
everything has been done to ruin their career so many called quacks
I saw an article about two Swedish doctors that said this type of vaccine would speed up variants.... i went back to find article and could not find it again.
Tech should NOT be censoring items just because perhaps as a whole group but even a single staff person not disagreeing.

Kids learn more seeing what is happening..... then listening.
They are seeing if you disagree shut people down .........
do not question it will become easier and easier to have total control by government.
 
Jeni said:
Most of any doctors or scientists that questioned anything about these vaccines have been shut down.
everything has been done to ruin their career so many called quacks
I saw an article about two Swedish doctors that said this type of vaccine would speed up variants.... i went back to find article and could not find it again.
Tech should NOT be censoring items just because perhaps as a whole group but even a single staff person not disagreeing.

Kids learn more seeing what is happening..... then listening.
They are seeing if you disagree shut people down .........
do not question it will become easier and easier to have total control by government.
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Total control over the population is the idea. Why else silence one of the premier minds on mRNA vaccines? They are so afraid of what he will say.
 
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To be honest, I think it is a mistake to censor alternate opinions. Yes some of this stuff gets certain groups fired up and some crazies go overboard with guns and other violence but when we censor free speech we are just giving ammo to those who believe in conspiracies and side with people who want to tear everything up. I'm wondering how the no government types are going to do anything constructive once anarchy takes over. Sounds like just random killings and violence to me.
 
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Judycat said:
To be honest, I think it is a mistake to censor alternate opinions. Yes some of this stuff gets certain groups fired up and some crazies go overboard with guns and other violence but when we censor free speech we are just giving ammo to those who believe in conspiracies and side with people who want to tear everything up. I wondering how the no government types are going to do anything constructive once anarchy takes over. Sounds like just random killings and violence to me.
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i agree censorship increases those who feel a conspiracy issue..... doing exactly opposite of what these censorship policies say they want.

people are NOT encouraged to read each angle and make up their mind but TOLD what to think or believe....

AS with ANY disagreement............... the TRUTH lives in the middle .....
i was told that from a man who had decades of mediation who said very seldom had he seen one side be right. I use that every time assessing a situation since.... the truth is often somewhere in between sides of any issue.
 
Jeni said:
people are NOT encouraged to read each angle and make up their mind but TOLD what to think or believe....

AS with ANY disagreement............... the TRUTH lives in the middle .....
i was told that from a man who had decades of mediation who said very seldom had he seen one side be right. I use that every time assessing a situation since.... the truth is often somewhere in between sides of any issue.
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Preach it!
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Don M. said:
If you "google" this Dr. Malone, there are numerous sites debunking much of what he says. Here is just one of many.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science...lone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

This guy sounds like just another "expert" who is causing so much "division" over this pandemic.
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Did you miss the part that he's a pioneer in mRNA therapeutics? Has been working with the technology since the 80s. He is a virologist with a sound educational and employment background.

He knows mRNA therapeutics have never passed clinical trials in all those years until the emergency Covid-19 vaccine.

To silence a person with his credentials is technological totalitarianism.

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This tread got me curious so I did a little research, and found:

Malone was in fact banned from Twitter, apparently for his anti-vaccination views. I don't use or know Twitter, but this does not sound like the kind of thing a platform could call protection of free speech. I certainly support the right of all to express their opinions even if I completely disagree.

As to Malone's claim that he is the "inventor of the core mRNA vaccine technologies (including the idea of mRNA vaccines) and RNA transfection" this is not clear. Hundreds of people have worked on and contributed to the development of mRNA vaccines, he seems to be the only one loudly proclaiming that he is the "inventor" and many scientists dispute his claim. See: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

As to his opinions concerning current application of the vaccine I don't really have the technical knowledge to do a good assessment, but his views seem to be in the minority. See https://www.theatlantic.com/science...lone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/ (same as cited above)

He may be controversial, but it is clear that he has good credentials and knows a lot about the vaccine.
 
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Alligatorob said:
I don't use or know Twitter, but this does not sound like the kind of thing a platform could call protection of free speech. I certainly support the right of all to express their opinions even if I completely disagree.
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Exactly. And before someone goes there with "It's Jack Dorsey's and he can do what he wants" think of a debate team competing at a private school and the moderator silencing a person because the moderator doesn't like the content of that participant's argument.

Humans--like frogs in a pot of cold water progressing to boiling--are susceptible to conditioning.
 
AnnieA said:
Exactly. And before someone goes there with "It's Jack Dorsey's and he can do what he wants" think of a debate team competing at a private school and the moderator silencing a person because the moderator doesn't like the content of that participant's argument.
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That actually happened to me. I was arguing the right to have an abortion (before Roe) and was silenced by the moderator who was a Catholic "spinster!"

Oops there I go again, off-topic. Sorry.
 
AnnieA said:
Exactly. And before someone goes there with "It's Jack Dorsey's and he can do what he wants" think of a debate team competing at a private school and the moderator silencing a person because the moderator doesn't like the content of that participant's argument.
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Privately owned outlets have that right. And we as consumers have the right to ignore outlets like this. I am doing my best to do my part.
 
Pepper said:
That actually happened to me. I was arguing the right to have an abortion (before Roe) and was silenced by the moderator who was a Catholic "spinster!"

Oops there I go again, off-topic. Sorry.
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It isn't off topic at all. It was the task of the other participant to attempt to win the point against your arguments, not the moderator's job to suppress you. It was her 'right' to exercise at a private school, but it didn't empower critical thinking. There's a concerted effort to diminish critical thinking these days and it's very concerning. We swung to the center for a bit since your school debate days, but the pendulum has gone waaaaaay off course from those overly conservative days. The swings too far in either direction are equally dangerous.
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Shero said:
Poor old Dr Malone, it must be tough not to be recognized for being a lab attendant amongst dozens.
Talk about sour grapes.
Where do you dig these things up from Chic?
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It would be interesting to see where these people who think this virus is a hoax, or that the vaccines are poison, etc., get their information. They Never seem to post the source of their "truth". I suppose they must spend a considerable amount of time browsing obscure internet, or social media sites looking for anything that supports their ideas.
 
Judycat said:
To be honest, I think it is a mistake to censor alternate opinions. Yes some of this stuff gets certain groups fired up and some crazies go overboard with guns and other violence but when we censor free speech we are just giving ammo to those who believe in conspiracies and side with people who want to tear everything up. I wondering how the no government types are going to do anything constructive once anarchy takes over. Sounds like just random killings and violence to me.
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Do you think anarchy is inevitable at some point?
 
Don M. said:
It would be interesting to see where these people who think this virus is a hoax, or that the vaccines are poison, etc., get their information. They Never seem to post the source of their "truth". I suppose they must spend a considerable amount of time browsing obscure internet, or social media sites looking for anything that supports their ideas.
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I don't think anyone on here thinks the coronavirus is a hoax. Some believe the reaction from gov't and politicians is greatly flawed, and I agree, but I haven't seen any posts on Senior Forums saying the virus is a hoax. So it's logical there wouldn't be any references to sources for that claim either.
 
Don M. said:
It would be interesting to see where these people who think this virus is a hoax, or that the vaccines are poison, etc., get their information. They Never seem to post the source of their "truth". I suppose they must spend a considerable amount of time browsing obscure internet, or social media sites looking for anything that supports their ideas.
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Too right Don! Some of our anti vaxxer "friends" comb through haystacks looking for a glimmer of a rusty needle to show each other they have something of value. Of course all they find is twaddle!!
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