For Safety's Sake!

imp

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Where do you prefer to keep your valuable possessions: documents, cash, jewelry, firearms, artwork, old love letters? If in your home, where? Do you have a safe? Are "Safety-Deposit Boxes" in bank vaults still in vogue?

In the event that your valuables are safely-stashed, will your assigned successor(s) be able to access them? Talkin' death now, but less squeamishly, how about possible theft of the items?

My Dad kept a Safety-Deposit Box in our bank, in the vault buried beneath it in the basement. I gazed about in wonderment whenever we went down there; everything was made of shiny stainless steel. A barred entry guarded the enormous circular vault door, about 8 feet in diameter, round, suspended by gigantic hinges. The entry was watched by an employee, who opened the barrier after being convinced of one's viability, thence to the gaping round door, which was about a foot thick. Within there were thousands of individually-locked boxes built into the walls. We had one of the smallest, about the size of a shoebox. Two locks guarded each box: one accepted my Dad's key, the other the attendant's. After retrieving our box from within the wall of boxes, we retired to a phone-booth-like room to peruse our valuables. He had house deed, insurance policies, etc., thus safely protected against theft or fire.

Has the "Computer Revolution" changed any aspects of this? My forebears were generally known to keep their life's savings stuffed into the matresses they slept on! imp
 

LOL well I'm not about to say where my valuables are kept ...even if I had any

..but bank vaults are not as safe as people think...

Just about everyone I know has a fireproof home safe bolted to the floor somewhere on their property..
 
I failed to mention home safes! I am remiss! What about home safes, then? Fireproof? Theft-proof? How big? How accessed?

Scenerio: If everything you had was contained within the safe in front of you and a burglar, who had a gun to your head, demanding that you open the safe, what would you do? imp
 

An interesting question Imp, but sadly, I don't think
you will get any definite answers.

That information is sacred and not for publication,
especially on the internet, or to any stranger for
that matter.

Mike.
 
I don't have valuable jewelry or artwork and don't keep a lot of cash. The most valuable things are too big to carry off or hide.

Has the "Computer Revolution" changed any aspects of this? My forebears were generally known to keep their life's savings stuffed into the matresses they slept on! imp

Yes I have a virtual rifle and handgun on my pc, with a backup copy from the pc manufacturer on its website. :)

Seriously though, I'll bet there are laws now that say if you don't have all the paperwork, like deeds, insurance policies, receipts, licenses, etc, you won't get
penalized in the end. But you need to keep a *list* of these things somewhere with identifying numbers in one place so as not to throw folks into turmoil on your demise.
Unless you want to get even with relatives. :devil:


I'd be curious to know what paperwork other folks think should be kept. I'm really bad about not being organized that way. And need to jump on it soon.
 
We have a full sized gun safe, fireproof, bolted to the floor, and also a safe deposit box at the bank. There wouldn't be anyone in my home pointing a gun to my head and demanding that I open my safe, I have my own firearms to see that that never happens. Anyone with the intent to take my valuables by force, and threaten my life with a gun to my head, will be dead very quickly.
 
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No cash kept in the house. Very little even in my wallet. No firearms, just a big 90+ lb dog for security. Important documents and other stuff in a safety deposit box at the bank. I do have a fireproof box at my house, but just some misc stuff that won't be much of a loss if carted off by a burglar.
 
What valuables?

As they sing in Porgy and Bess - "I've got plenty of nothin' ".

The few trinkets I own don't amount to much and most of our electronics/white goods are at least 5 years old and most a lot more.
Important documents are kept in a locked bag at the bank.
 
I keep important documents in a fire proof lock box but that is only to save us all the inconvenience should there be a fire.
 
Where do you prefer to keep your valuable possessions: documents, cash, jewelry, firearms, artwork, old love letters? If in your home, where? Do you have a safe? Are "Safety-Deposit Boxes" in bank vaults still in vogue?

Keep in mind that Everything that a person posts on the Internet runs the risk of being tracked. As I type this, my tracking software...BLUR...shows that there are 3 entities tracking this message. Only an "Optimist" would post information pertaining to their valuable possessions on the Internet. There is a thriving industry, among burglars, for example, taking advantage of people who are dumb enough to post their upcoming vacation plans on Facebook.
 
Where do you prefer to keep your valuable possessions: documents, cash, jewelry, firearms, artwork, old love letters? If in your home, where? Do you have a safe? Are "Safety-Deposit Boxes" in bank vaults still in vogue?

Keep in mind that Everything that a person posts on the Internet runs the risk of being tracked. As I type this, my tracking software...BLUR...shows that there are 3 entities tracking this message. Only an "Optimist" would post information pertaining to their valuable possessions on the Internet. There is a thriving industry, among burglars, for example, taking advantage of people who are dumb enough to post their upcoming vacation plans on Facebook.

People have to know where you live before they can take advantage of that information. The only FB friends I have that know where I live are, of course, people I trust. I'm a very long and expensive journey for most people! One of you here has a rough idea of where I live, but not the exact house. And I'm in a very inconvenient location for robbers to be discreet about breaking into our house. It's dead quiet at night and they'd be heard, and during the day the neighbours who would know we were away would see something funny going on.

And obviously if I am posting from the US or Thailand or anywhere else, I must be away from home.
 
"People have to know where you live before they can take advantage of that information".

THAT is no problem for a savvy thief. Every computer is assigned a unique IP address, that appears in every message sent from that computer. Cell phones have GPS capability. Using an IP Address, or GPS, a persons location and identity can then be determined. That is how most E-mail spam originates. Once a thief has your name and address...And knows you are away from home,..his job becomes easy.

We, too, live in a remote area, with trusted neighbors, and very low crime. However, compare that to millions of people who live in the crowded cities...most of who probably don't even know their neighbors names...much less have anyone looking after their place when they are gone. There are thousands of home burglaries every week across the nation....only a very small fraction of which are ever solved. Given that the odds are so heavily stacked in the thieves favor, it makes no sense for a person to post sensitive or personal information on the Internet.
 
"People have to know where you live before they can take advantage of that information".

THAT is no problem for a savvy thief. Every computer is assigned a unique IP address, that appears in every message sent from that computer. Cell phones have GPS capability. Using an IP Address, or GPS, a persons location and identity can then be determined. That is how most E-mail spam originates. Once a thief has your name and address...And knows you are away from home,..his job becomes easy.

We, too, live in a remote area, with trusted neighbors, and very low crime. However, compare that to millions of people who live in the crowded cities...most of who probably don't even know their neighbors names...much less have anyone looking after their place when they are gone. There are thousands of home burglaries every week across the nation....only a very small fraction of which are ever solved. Given that the odds are so heavily stacked in the thieves favor, it makes no sense for a person to post sensitive or personal information on the Internet.

IP addresses are not set in stone and often change. I don't even have a house number. The houses here have Gaelic names. As I said before it would be very difficult to break into a house here without someone hearing or seeing someone. They've have to park in front of the house or risk being seen in our driveway by our neighbours who would know we were away. NO crime in this area that anyone can remember for decades.

And I live in Scotland, not the US, so you can't use the same statistics.
 
IP addresses are not set in stone and often change. I don't even have a house number. The houses here have Gaelic names. As I said before it would be very difficult to break into a house here without someone hearing or seeing someone. They've have to park in front of the house or risk being seen in our driveway by our neighbours who would know we were away. NO crime in this area that anyone can remember for decades.

And I live in Scotland, not the US, so you can't use the same statistics.

We're comparing Apples and Oranges here. You and I apparently live in an environment where worrying about crime isn't something we need to dwell on. However, the thousands of people who have their houses ransacked every year in the more populated areas probably have a different take on the subject.

Bottom line....A person is increasing their chances of becoming a victim, the more personal information they give out on their electronic devices. The hackers and thieves ARE watching.
 
We're comparing Apples and Oranges here. You and I apparently live in an environment where worrying about crime isn't something we need to dwell on. However, the thousands of people who have their houses ransacked every year in the more populated areas probably have a different take on the subject.

Bottom line....A person is increasing their chances of becoming a victim, the more personal information they give out on their electronic devices. The hackers and thieves ARE watching.

So are you suggesting that when we go away for 3 months that I either 1. stop posting or 2. lie and say I'm at home?
 
I completely agree with Don, a few years ago someone was traced on a social network site because of the various information he gave out, 2 men arrived at his doorstep from 70 miles away and beat him up, this happened about 15 miles from where I live.

On an open forum such as Seniors, where the world and his wife can read, it is always best to be extra cautious.
 
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I completely agree with Don, a few years ago someone was traced on a social network site because of the various information he gave out, 2 men arrived at his doorstep from 70 miles away and beat him up, this happened about 15 miles from where I live.

On an open forum such as Seniors, where the world and his wife can read, it is always best to be extra cautious.

Who on here knows my name which is ex directory, and where I live? As I've stated several times already, this is an inconvenient location for robbery. Too easy to get caught.
 
Who on here knows my name which is ex directory, and where I live? As I've stated several times already, this is an inconvenient location for robbery. Too easy to get caught.

Let me see if I can put this in perspective for you. If you live in a rural area of Scotland...where the crime rate is very low, and you have dependable neighbors...feel free to chat all you want about your travels. However, if you live in a crowded city in the U.S., where there are thousands of thugs roaming around just looking for an opportunity to take advantage of someone...you would be well advised to keep details about your personal life, and travels to yourself, and share those detail Only with a trusted circle of friends and relatives.

As I said before, comparing Scotland to the U.S. is a real Apples and Oranges thing.
 


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