Grand Theft Auto, Carjacking, Joyriding epidemic

[Jules]

New vehicles have tracking devices. A few years ago, a leased car was stolen. The owner could see where it was and reported the location. It was at least a month, maybe two, before the police reported that they’d seized it in a shipping container. It seems stolen cars aren’t a priority for them. With the media attention being given now, maybe that’ll change.

 

[ElCastor]

Typical weak response of do nothing advocates. Of course as I noted, the problem is not the level of penalties but rather a lack of application of punishment for laws. How about giving lawbreakers some discomfort and pain as well as identifying them in public. A reason society needs a return to corporal punishment because once lawbreaking exceeds minor levels, simply tossing offenders long term into costly to citizens, jail or prisons, is not a solution.

Corporal Punishment? Like a horse whipping or a Cat O Nine Tails? Yikes! I thought that ended with chopping off body parts, hanging by a rope, and burning witches at a stake. Maybe several unpleasant years behind bars would do?

 

[David777]

Corporal Punishment? Like a horse whipping or a Cat O Nine Tails? Yikes! I thought that ended with chopping off body parts, hanging by a rope, and burning witches at a stake. Maybe several unpleasant years behind bars would do?

Please be more thorough before posting as I expanded on that as in not pain but rather unpleasantness:

Grand Theft Auto, Carjacking, Joyriding epidemic

...Throughout human history shows corporal punishment has been much abused. So yes it was correct to abolish such decades ago. The difference today in this telecom era, within modern Western countries, it ought be possible to fairly treat with public transparent oversight, found guilty persons, while still making a short period of incarceration unpleasant without causing serious physical pain. For instance, cells lacking air conditioning, heating, TV, phones, boring food, foul changing fragrances, shaving hair, audio speakers with constant reminding during day hours, anti criminal, socially acceptable behaviors. Conditions humans won't want to endure for even short periods. Otherwise expensive long incarceration sentences or parole is too often ineffective...

 

[Alizerine]

One simple way to NOT have your car stolen is.........Sell the 2023 luxury SUV and buy a $10,000 ten year old plain jane car. No one is going to want to steal a 2012 Subaru Forester with 150,000 miles on the odometer, and the annual cost of insurance will be a lot LOWER. Vanity is the real reason why these car owners are being hit by thieves.

Just got to have the newest, most blingey , flashy car on the block. I strongly suspect that these criminals are not stealing cars from the parking lots of public housing locations are they?

You live in a place with 3 million dollar houses, be prepared to be a target for criminals. Of course the car makers ALSO must share the blame, for not building in better security devices in their cars. In days gone by, removing the ignition coil wire was an effective way to prevent a car from being started up. Jimb.

There are plenty of older model KIAs being stolen around here because they are so easy to steal. I forget exactly why that is but I think they learned it on TikTok.

 

[Alizerine]

And Hyundai's too. Just looked it up. And it was a TikTok video.

 

[fuzzybuddy]

About 40 years ago, I had this junk Chevy. It was at least 10 year old and had a million miles on it. It was way past its last legs. Nobody would give it an inspection sticker. So I made one of my own. And that model was super easy to start without keys-just one screw driver touching two terminals. It got stolen.
The next day, some cops in another distant town called and said they had it in their parking lot. All the cops would tell me was it was in their parking lot. No who stole it or anything. They refused to tell me how it got there. I figured I'd get hit with a fine for driving without an inspection sticker, but nothing. And I was sure the cops saw it. I didn't have to sign any forms???? I just got in and went home. I figured it was some official's kid, who stole it, and got stopped.
BTW, I did get caught with that sticker. I was fined for "forgery of a legal document".

 

[911]

Most people that I have dealt with after their car was stolen didn’t really seem to care much. They usually say the same thing. I have to wait “x” number of days for it to be recovered and then I can file my claim.

GM cars equipped with On Star were usually recovered in just a few hours or less after the vehicle was reported stolen. I have recovered vehicles with the thief behind the wheel. I had one car thief I caught on the Interstate. He pulled over on the berm of the highway, got out, jumped over the guard rail and started to run. It took me about 100 yards to catch him.

When I caught up to him and put him on the ground, I asked him if he smoked and he said “yeah.” I told him that was his downfall. Had he not been a smoker, I may not have caught him.

 

[jimintoronto]

Most people that I have dealt with after their car was stolen didn’t really seem to care much. They usually say the same thing. I have to wait “x” number of days for it to be recovered and then I can file my claim.

GM cars equipped with On Star were usually recovered in just a few hours or less after the vehicle was reported stolen. I have recovered vehicles with the thief behind the wheel. I had one car thief I caught on the Interstate. He pulled over on the berm of the highway, got out, jumped over the guard rail and started to run. It took me about 100 yards to catch him.

When I caught up to him and put him on the ground, I asked him if he smoked and he said “yeah.” I told him that was his downfall. Had he not been a smoker, I may not have caught him.

In my experience, Federal inmates in Canadian prisons come out a lot more fit than they were when they went in...WHY? No smoking in prisons, no alcohol, better food on a regular schedule, sleep at night. Lots of people to do exercise with every day. The savvy ones claim to be Muslims, so they get a menu with no pork, only red meat at each meal time. Federal prisons are "schools for criminals " who teach each other the newest ways to commit crimes. What else do they have to do, each day?

The prisoners are allowed to have money deposited into their "commissary account " by outsiders. This allows the inmates to buy things that the prison doesn't supply, like snack foods, bottles of hot sauce, ramen noodles in a cup and beef jerky strips. These articles are used as a form of barter payments . JimB.