Happy "UN-FATHERS DAY", (celebrating those parents and grandparents on one special day!)

grahamg

grahamg

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Here in the UK it is the now traditional "Fathers day" on Sunday, yet I've always felt it a bit ironic that any day focussing upon a father or mother, asking children to acknowledge what a good job so many parents do, has a bittersweet side to it, especially as divorce/separation rates soar or remain so high, that being reminded you're not being celebrated on your supposedly special day is the lot of so many nowadays, (hence the need for an UN-FATHERS DAY")!

Now I know there will be more than a few who will come along to lecture everyone about this or that, maybe taking the focus off "Real fathers day", (apparently there's been some kind of cultural shift where the child gets to decree who might be their "real father" as they choose, but so long as its in their interests hey, who can possibly complain?).

However, us open minded folks can come up with new ideas, new possibilities can't we, and in this case no parent/grandparent who wishes to join in celebrating the fact their walking on this planet contributed to the perpetuation of mankind, and feeling we should all be valued and celebrated "if not by our own", then by other "like minded folks"!

What do you think, am I on to a winner again?
(any with negative opinions are most welcome to keep them to themselves, especially as we approach our big " UN-FATHERS DAY" celebrations!)
 

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A different take on the thread topic as you will see, (perhaps a growing proportion of the population, given the expereinces of so many dads):
http://www.notafathersday.com/

Quote:
"Not A Father's Day is a holiday dedicated to the celebration and commemoration of an oft forgotten segment of our country's population: the not fathers. These brave men have chosen to remain childless, despite an avalanche of pressure, expectations, and condemnation, propagated by the Saturday morning cartoon loving elite, the Minivan Clan, and Maury Povich.

So on this day, all of humanity shall pause to remember that it is better to change partners than diapers, that the only thing in a bottle should be beer, and that the only reason to be up at 6am is because you haven't gone to sleep the night before."
 
CarolfromTX said:
Not enough eye-roll emojis for this nonsense.
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It may be nonsense to some, (not all nonsense is a bad thing though, where would we be without Laurel and Hardy style humour, the world would be a bleaker place wouldn't it! :) ).

Its not nonsense too, though it is ridiculous in the extreme, many men in California say they wish to pay a surrogate mother to have a child with as its the only way they can see themselves being part of their offsprings life into adulthood, (so "UN-FATHERS DAY" isn't quite as wacky an idea as it may appear! :( ).
 
grahamg said:
It may be nonsense to some, (not all nonsense is a bad thing though, where would we be without Laurel and Hardy style humour, the world would be a bleaker place wouldn't it! :) ).

Its not nonsense too, though it is ridiculous in the extreme, many men in California say they wish to pay a surrogate mother to have a child with as its the only way they can see themselves being part of their offsprings life into adulthood, (so "UN-FATHERS DAY" isn't quite as wacky an idea as it may appear! :( ).
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Talking of Laurel and Hardy.... it's Another Fine Fest weekend up here in nearby Ulverston (where Stan Laurel was born).

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Bellbird said:
grahamg, You have a point, everything is celebrated these days, (having their special day.) so why not UN Fathers Day, it's all in the scheme of things.
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It is of course meant "tongue in cheek"!

My only targets in raising the issues I do are those supporting a system denying fathers/parents any rights in the UK, (meaning "statute rights"), and the idea decent/good parents deserve absolutely nothing for doing their best and loving their child, "as long as everyone believes the system works for the child above all else all the time", (denying the right to a private life, no one in any position of authority should have the right to intrude by asking my child to declare whether or not they loved their father!).
 
grahamg said:
It is of course meant "tongue in cheek"!

My only targets in raising the issues I do are those supporting a system denying fathers/parents any rights in the UK, (meaning "statute rights"), and the idea decent/good parents deserve absolutely nothing for doing their best and loving their child, "as long as everyone believes the system works for the child above all else all the time", (denying the right to a private life, no one in any position of authority should have the right to intrude by asking my child to declare whether or not they loved their father!).
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Really, that could answer some of the threads you post, 'tongue in cheek", what is the point, a 'stir'.
 
Bellbird said:
Really, that could answer some of the threads you post, 'tongue in cheek", what is the point, a 'stir'.
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It could be yes, but the bigger point I sometimes mention is too many folks wish to ignore this question, (or wish to try to), who really loves those children exhibiting serious problems of one form or another?
 
CarolfromTX said:
“I vow to choose D cups over zippy cups.” Pretty Tacky if you ask me, verging on offensive. You don’t need a day for NOT doing something.
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You could do couldn't you, celebrating not overeating, celebrating not losing ones cool, celebrating not getting drunk, (or even celebrating "not offending anyone",...., more on that to come! :) ).

I'd suggest whoeverr came up with the "Not a fathers day" idea and website, was intending to offend to an extent, and that's okay isn't it, (aren't folks being told they're being offensive entitled to feel some folks are just too touchy and feel offended at their mindset too?).
 
Knight said:
Un fathers day is celebrated already. Or at least those not wanting to be a father to their child probably enjoy being an un father.

That as a statistic is increasing.
In 1980, some 18 percent of all women in the United States who gave birth were unmarried. As of 2020, the percentage of births to unmarried women has increased to 40.5 percent.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/276025/us-percentage-of-births-to-unmarried-women/#:~:text=In 1980, some 18 percent,has increased to 40.5 percent.
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I will make the point that couples living together without being married, for years, then decide to have a child together does not mean the Male parent doesn't want to be a father. Times have changed, in the exclusive 40 years survey. A big difference in our society.
 
Knight said:
Un-Fathers day is celebrated already. Or at least those not wanting to be a father to their child probably enjoy being an un-father.
That as a statistic is increasing.
In 1980, some 18 percent of all women in the United States who gave birth were unmarried. As of 2020, the percentage of births to unmarried women has increased to 40.5 percent.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/276025/us-percentage-of-births-to-unmarried-women/#:~:text=In 1980, some 18 percent,has increased to 40.5 percent.
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Mmmmm, interesting one this, the man my ex told the courts was seen as the "real father" by my child gave up his son by his first marriage to adoption by the former wife and her new partner when the boy was aged just two, so yes I can see how shedding himself of all financial responsibility for that "real child" might have been something he'd celebrate, but of course the idea behind UN-FATHERS DAY, as stated in the OP is the community celebrating those excluded dads, (and mums/grandparents, let's be inclusive here!).

My ex's new partner would be claiming two days to get celebrated on wouldn't he by your criteria, both "FATHERS DAY" and the "UN-FATHER" variety, so this is both cheating and celebrating two opposing things, not being a good dad, and being a half way decent "real/step dad", as I'd guess he might have been, "though my ex probably still wore the trousers"!
 
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