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fureverywhere

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Right or left of politics you can all join in. Me and hubby were discussing the problem. The Orlando shooter...Dominant nutjob Dad, married and bi-curious, possibly bi-polar and untreated. Hubby's brother is natural born American, maybe the booze and smack. maybe just twisted from the beginning.

He went as far as coming to our house and cornering me in my own bedroom to rant how much he hated me. Two years later he tried to sell the house out from under us. I now have a dog who would rip out his throat and a human lawyer ditto. But the idea law enforcement can't act until someone actually breaks the law????
 

I know women who have been told that the police cannot do anything until the stalker or estranged husband actually breaks the law or violates a restraining order... That's hardly protection is it? and by that time it's usually too late..
 
Following the recent murder of a British politician, it has come to light that threats and harrassment to MPs are a big problem.
This applies to all shades of political opinion. I don't know how it works in the US, but here MPs will hold 'surgeries' in local communities where anyone can come along to see their representative, generally with problems that they want help with.

On thursday, after one such surgery, Labour MP Jo Cox, was attacked and killed by an Extreme right wing fanatic who had mental health problems. I hope it doesn't get to the point where police have to guard our politicians as they go about their business, but as noted, the police can rarely do anything until acrime has been committed.
 

It's not a wonder to me why humans are becoming more violent.. People get that way when they feel they have no control over their socio-economic situation.. or their future. They have come to realize that no matter what they do... or how hard they work, the deck is stacked against their success. They have watched their wages stagnate... they have to work longer and longer hours to maintain even a minimal lifestyle... they worry their kids will be even worse off... AND they are right.. They have been lied to over and over by politicians promising to make it better when inreality they are only concerned with the top 1% and of course their own re-election. They are looking for people to blame and are lashing out. I fear if there are no changes made... it's going to get worse.
 
Capt Lightning said:
Quicksilver, you paint a very bleak picture.
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Yes she does, but my view is the same as hers. The social contract has been broken. A cyclical phenomenon through out human history. When the tipping point is met, there will be a correction. I think that we are on the brink. What remains to be seen is the means by which the correction is effected!
 
QuickSilver said:
It's not a wonder to me why humans are becoming more violent.. People get that way when they feel they have no control over their socio-economic situation.. or their future. They have come to realize that no matter what they do... or how hard they work, the deck is stacked against their success. They have watched their wages stagnate... they have to work longer and longer hours to maintain even a minimal lifestyle... they worry their kids will be even worse off... AND they are right.. They have been lied to over and over by politicians promising to make it better when inreality they are only concerned with the top 1% and of course their own re-election. They are looking for people to blame and are lashing out. I fear if there are no changes made... it's going to get worse.
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I think every point you made is excellent and accurate and there are many people who agree with you that it's on the verge of getting worse. Just factor in more job losses as more and more industry either leaves the country or turns to 'robots' to do the work the people used to do. I just heard of a Japanese company that either is planning or has already fired 1000 people because they are going with mechanized 'workers'. When those job losses start piling up, what will be the mood of the people then? People who are hungry are usually in a miserable frame of mind.
 
I have never heard of any contract that says we will do some percent better every year. No guarantee that we should always hire on as some one near the top in wages. Raising the starting pay minimum only guarantees the increase in prices for all of us, including those retirees on fixed incomes. Now those are the ones to be concerned about, not the younger ones just starting out in the working world. Starting wages should never be high and should only cover the minimum items needed to get on with an employer and be a trainee. I believe when I was younger there was a 90 day period of trial prior to the jobs becoming permanent. Not big wages then either as more would come over time for being a good and stable worker. This was mostly covered in the union rules and not from some government agency. The states and locals could describe a minimum wage if they wanted but if too high that would mean the company might move to another town or state.

Want the bigger companies to pull back from the foreign locations, likely start by looking at how we tax them compared to where they are working away from home. We may have some decent ways to get them back just in the way our Congress will handle things.
 
The data shows US and European homicide rates are down since the 1950s, although "mass murders" have increased in the US. What has changed is the 24 hour, never ending news cycle, and the resulting inundation of bad news, which in turn, I believe, leads to copy-cats.
 
QuickSilver said:
It's not a wonder to me why humans are becoming more violent.. People get that way when they feel they have no control over their socio-economic situation.. or their future. They have come to realize that no matter what they do... or how hard they work, the deck is stacked against their success. They have watched their wages stagnate... they have to work longer and longer hours to maintain even a minimal lifestyle... they worry their kids will be even worse off... AND they are right.. They have been lied to over and over by politicians promising to make it better when inreality they are only concerned with the top 1% and of course their own re-election. They are looking for people to blame and are lashing out. I fear if there are no changes made... it's going to get worse.
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Unfortunately, I agree.
 
Capt Lightning said:
Following the recent murder of a British politician, it has come to light that threats and harrassment to MPs are a big problem.
This applies to all shades of political opinion. I don't know how it works in the US, but here MPs will hold 'surgeries' in local communities where anyone can come along to see their representative, generally with problems that they want help with.

On thursday, after one such surgery, Labour MP Jo Cox, was attacked and killed by an Extreme right wing fanatic who had mental health problems. I hope it doesn't get to the point where police have to guard our politicians as they go about their business, but as noted, the police can rarely do anything until acrime has been committed.
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When I was reading this story on BBC, I wondered about the use of the word "surgery." I wondered if maybe she was also a doctor.

So they call it a surgery when they meet with their local constituents? Wonder why they call it that?
 

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