How many have to die before we finally do what needs to be done?

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that's right i'm asking and i don't care who i upset. how much more pressure do we think can be placed on the medical system as a whole before things break completely down? how many more people have to die before people suck it up and stop whining and go get their shots and wear their masks and stop running all over the country spreading this crap? how long before people grow up and do the responsible thing? this video is what is happening in kansas right now and i'm sure it's worse in other places. stop and think about what will happen if you need to get emergency care and can't because the hospital has no room? guess what? you die. why? why do people not understand this? why do people fight this? there was never this much of a fit thrown over flu vaccines. step up and do your part to stop this spread if you're able to take the vaccine. there's no excuse not to otherwise.

 

"There was never this much of a fit thrown over flu vaccines."
Your need for a scapegoat is interfering with your ability to think. Unlike Covid vaccines, no one ever tried to force flu vaccines on anyone. It was a personal choice - just as the Covid vaccine is a personal choice, despite your overpowering need to control & place blame.
 

MarciKS said:
that's right i'm asking and i don't care who i upset. how much more pressure do we think can be placed on the medical system as a whole before things break completely down? how many more people have to die before people suck it up and stop whining and go get their shots and wear their masks and stop running all over the country spreading this crap? how long before people grow up and do the responsible thing? this video is what is happening in kansas right now and i'm sure it's worse in other places. stop and think about what will happen if you need to get emergency care and can't because the hospital has no room? guess what? you die. why? why do people not understand this? why do people fight this? there was never this much of a fit thrown over flu vaccines. step up and do your part to stop this spread if you're able to take the vaccine. there's no excuse not to otherwise.

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I'd been wondering: I'm not sure how many, but there are Seniors here who are much older and were around during the polio epidemic- were people then going around going "Nobody can tell ME what to do! I'm asserting my RIGHTS! Gotta QUESTION AUTHORITY!"?
Welllll, this wasn't called "the Me Generation" for nothing!!! 437635-Royalty-Free-RF-Clip-Art-Illustration-Of-A-Cartoon-Boy-Throwing-A-Temper-Tantrum.jpg
 
MarciKS said:
that's right i'm asking and i don't care who i upset. how much more pressure do we think can be placed on the medical system as a whole before things break completely down? how many more people have to die before people suck it up and stop whining and go get their shots and wear their masks and stop running all over the country spreading this crap? how long before people grow up and do the responsible thing? this video is what is happening in kansas right now and i'm sure it's worse in other places. stop and think about what will happen if you need to get emergency care and can't because the hospital has no room? guess what? you die. why? why do people not understand this? why do people fight this? there was never this much of a fit thrown over flu vaccines. step up and do your part to stop this spread if you're able to take the vaccine. there's no excuse not to otherwise.

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Do not worry about "upsetting" anyone. I am amazed some hardcore anti vaxxers are still posting their absolute BS. Keep pushing it, maybe someone will eventually get the message.

I do not have smpathy for people who refuse to believe the science, people who have no regard that the human race is suffering a global pandemic and still they are determined to stick to their conspiracy theories. Makes me sick!
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MarciKS said:
that's right i'm asking and i don't care who i upset. how much more pressure do we think can be placed on the medical system as a whole before things break completely down? how many more people have to die before people suck it up and stop whining and go get their shots and wear their masks and stop running all over the country spreading this crap? how long before people grow up and do the responsible thing? this video is what is happening in kansas right now and i'm sure it's worse in other places. stop and think about what will happen if you need to get emergency care and can't because the hospital has no room? guess what? you die. why? why do people not understand this? why do people fight this? there was never this much of a fit thrown over flu vaccines. step up and do your part to stop this spread if you're able to take the vaccine. there's no excuse not to otherwise.

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how many have to die before we finally do what needs to be done?​


Perhaps another 800,000+ and even then, many will still not get vaccinated.
 
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MarciKS said:
how many more people have to die before people suck it up and stop whining and go get their shots and wear their masks and stop running all over the country spreading this crap? how long before people grow up and do the responsible thing?
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It's a different world now, common sense is passé...the internet is a wonderful medium to learn, whether it be factual or fantasy. A huge percentage of the population is under the influence (and control of) the conspiracy theorist media, that preaches fear and distrust...perfect tactics for dividing the nation. The "good news" is that the "anti" folks are thinning their own numbers out, too bad they can't do that and not jeopardizing others.
 
MarciKS said:
that's right i'm asking and i don't care who i upset. how much more pressure do we think can be placed on the medical system as a whole before things break completely down? how many more people have to die before people suck it up and stop whining and go get their shots and wear their masks and stop running all over the country spreading this crap? how long before people grow up and do the responsible thing? this video is what is happening in kansas right now and i'm sure it's worse in other places. stop and think about what will happen if you need to get emergency care and can't because the hospital has no room? guess what? you die. why? why do people not understand this? why do people fight this? there was never this much of a fit thrown over flu vaccines. step up and do your part to stop this spread if you're able to take the vaccine. there's no excuse not to otherwise.
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I don't think the covid deniers will ever give a damn about anyone but themselves. They spit in the face of he 800,000+ who have had to bury their loved ones because they were infected with the COVID-19 virus. They laugh at the hospitals being overloaded and the medical professional being overwhelmed. They are driven either by conspiracies, politics or both, and can't (or refuse to) tell fiction from fact.

It's pretty obvious that they are un-American and don't care about our country or the health of our citizens. We can't count on them to grow up and start to care, they are destroyers and not builders. We could be in such a better place now than we are, and they wouldn't have to constantly whimper about masks and life saving vaccines if they just acted like adults.

I have no sympathy for all those who refused to take precautions and vaccines that die in hospitals, but I do feel bad for their family members who tried to talk some sense into them. I do have sympathy for those who cannot get care because of them.
 
JaniceM said:
I'd been wondering: I'm not sure how many, but there are Seniors here who are much older and were around during the polio epidemic- were people then going around going "Nobody can tell ME what to do! I'm asserting my RIGHTS! Gotta QUESTION AUTHORITY!"?
Welllll, this wasn't called "the Me Generation" for nothing!!! View attachment 199577
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It took years to develop the polio vaccine. It took months to develop the Covid vaccine.


https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/polio
 
Nathan said:
It's a different world now, common sense is passé...the internet is a wonderful medium to learn, whether it be factual or fantasy. A huge percentage of the population is under the influence (and control of) the conspiracy theorist media, that preaches fear and distrust...perfect tactics for dividing the nation. The "good news" is that the "anti" folks are thinning their own numbers out, too bad they can't do that and not jeopardizing others.
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I agree, it's unfortunate they can't do that without jeopardizing others.
 
Becky1951 said:
It took years to develop the polio vaccine. It took months to develop the Covid vaccine.


https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/polio
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And the defense rests. Besides. The vaccine doesn't work.

So when will pro vaxxers come to the conclusion that we just have to allow people to live in a world where covid is endemic? How many have to die from cancers and other treatable diseases because they cannot see a doctor in time because every disease is swept aside as unimportant due to their morbid preoccupation with covid. When do the pro vaxxers say "enough"?
 
Becky1951 said:
It took years to develop the polio vaccine. It took months to develop the Covid vaccine.


https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/polio
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If you read outside of your usual conspiracy sources, you will learn. Most Americans already knew this, but you are in your own bubble of misinformation.

COVID-19 Vaccine vs. the Polio Vaccine​

While there are some parallels to the polio vaccine, there are some key differences. When the 1955 polio vaccine came out, it was the only vaccine. The COVID-19 vaccine has 3 versions available in the United States alone.

Another difference is how fact the vaccines were rolled out. Because the researchers who made the vaccine already had some groundwork with other SARS vaccines, the COVID-19 vaccine was completed pretty quickly. The polio vaccine took years to develop due to the technology of the time and having to start from scratch.
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https://www.pasadenahealthcenter.com/blog/coronavirus/the-polio-vaccine-rollout-vs-covid-rollout/
 
RadishRose said:
That was almost two generations ago. Medical science has advanced light years since then, so of course it would take far less time to develop vaccines today.
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The final step in all vaccine trials is following the participants for a minimum of 2 years. That step was eliminated and we are the final step. The vaccines obviously don't work and its easier to blame the unvaccinated.
 
Becky1951 said:
The vaccines obviously don't work
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I wouldn't say that. For the most part they do.

I didn't know about the two year minimum though. I guess they wanted to do something before more people died.

We can't really compare the COVID vaccine to the evolution of the polio vaccine so long ago was my main point.

No further comments from me on this subject. (I hope)
 
Shero said:
Do not worry about "upsetting" anyone. I am amazed some hardcore anti vaxxers are still posting their absolute BS. Keep pushing it, maybe someone will eventually get the message.

I do not have smpathy for people who refuse to believe the science, people who have no regard that the human race is suffering a global pandemic and still they are determined to stick to their conspiracy theories. Makes me sick!
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It can't make you sick.
Your vaccine protects you, n'est-ce pas ?
 
RadishRose said:
I wouldn't say that. For the most part they do.

I didn't know about the two year minimum though. I guess they wanted to do something before more people died.

We can't really compare the COVID vaccine to the evolution of the polio vaccine so long ago was my main point.

No further comments from me on this subject. (I hope)
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"We can't really compare the COVID vaccine to the evolution of the polio vaccine so long ago was my main point.

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Becky1951 said:
The final step in all vaccine trials is following the participants for a minimum of 2 years. That step was eliminated and we are the final step. The vaccines obviously don't work and its easier to blame the unvaccinated.
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You are unbelievable Becky. It is quite clear you know nothing of the steps vaccine development goes through in our modern scientific times. Yet!! you argue, why? is it because you do not want to help humanity? what is your real reason?

The covid vaccine already had a blueprint and was more than half way, much more than Sars had. Vaccines, like any scientific studies, do not start from scratch, they build on each other, so fruition comes quicker.

Yo will no doubt ignore this knowledge I am imparting to you and so will Chic. So be it!!!
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Shero said:
You are unbelievable Becky. It is quite clear you know nothing of the steps vaccine development goes through in our modern scientific times. Yet!! you argue, why? is it because you do not want to help humanity? what is your real reason?

The covid vaccine already had a blueprint and was more than half way, much more than Sars had. Vaccines, like any scientific studies, do not start from scratch, they build on each other, so fruition comes quicker.

Yo will no doubt ignore this knowledge I am imparting to you and so will Chic. So be it!!!
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Don't leave me out! I'll ignore it too. 😁
 
SeaBreeze said:
If you read outside of your usual conspiracy sources, you will learn. Most Americans already knew this, but you are in your own bubble of misinformation.



https://www.pasadenahealthcenter.com/blog/coronavirus/the-polio-vaccine-rollout-vs-covid-rollout/
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"If you read outside of your usual conspiracy sources, you will learn. Most Americans already knew this, but you are in your own bubble of misinformation."

Apparently most American's don't know, several members here keep bringing up the polio vaccine. Funny how the pro vaccine members never give snarky comments to them about it, but jump on any chance to comment on those not vaccinated who reply to those comments. :rolleyes:
 
Shero said:
You are unbelievable Becky. It is quite clear you know nothing of the steps vaccine development goes through in our modern scientific times. Yet!! you argue, why? is it because you do not want to help humanity? what is your real reason?

The covid vaccine already had a blueprint and was more than half way, much more than Sars had. Vaccines, like any scientific studies, do not start from scratch, they build on each other, so fruition comes quicker.

Yo will no doubt ignore this knowledge I am imparting to you and so will Chic. So be it!!!
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Agree with all you say Shero, thanks again for posting facts here.
 
Shero said:
You are unbelievable Becky. It is quite clear you know nothing of the steps vaccine development goes through in our modern scientific times. Yet!! you argue, why? is it because you do not want to help humanity? what is your real reason?

The covid vaccine already had a blueprint and was more than half way, much more than Sars had. Vaccines, like any scientific studies, do not start from scratch, they build on each other, so fruition comes quicker.

Yo will no doubt ignore this knowledge I am imparting to you and so will Chic. So be it!!!
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Oh look more snarky comments. 👏👏👏:rolleyes:
 
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