Judycat
Well-known Member
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- Pennsylvania
My house keeps demanding I be its slavish dupe. No inanimate object will ever have control of me. I will burn it down first I tell you.
How many of us can honestly say we're masters in our own home?
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Granny B.
Senior Member
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- N. Calif., USA
Jules, thanks for bringing this up. The whole "I'm the master" thing is outdated. Time to evolve!
I grew up in a home where Dad thought he was king of the house and everyone else was his property to order around as he saw fit. My poor mother had a miserable life with him, and it took me years to undo his harm to me.
grahamg
Old codger
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- South of Manchester, UK
Well yes, but there are some pretty good bosses, (or you could call them masters of their own homes), who might call themselves "benign dictators".
Whatever went wrong in any of our homes or families, we can't necessarily assume everything would have been better in a fatherless home can we.
grahamg
Old codger
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- South of Manchester, UK
Why, can't you just move into the garden and let the house to someone whose not so averse towards "inanimate objects", (like bricks and mortar)?
Granny B.
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- N. Calif., USA
I didn't say I would have been better off fatherless. I'm just making the point that the whole idea of needing someone to be "master" has been waaaaaaay overrated and it's time to get over the need to have control over other people.
Packerjohn
Packerjohn
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You got this right, CinnamonSugar. When I was a little kid in the 1950, we had 1 channel here in Canada. That was CBC. There was plenty to watch: Howdy Doody Show, Walt Disney Presents, Lone Ranger, Don Messer and his Islanders (Fiddler from Nova Scotia) & the Tommy Hunter Show (Country Music). Now, we have 500 channels but beans all to watch. A lot of swearing, some supposedly sex, tons of loud commercials and plenty of phony laugh tracks when the jokes are not funny. I like buying my DVDs from Amazon. I can watch 50 minutes of "Gunsmoke" without 1 second of advertising, for example. I don't like flipping channels and I don't like shows where vampires and zombies are the heroes. The TV in the 1950s was black and white. Now, we have huge screens up to 80 inches but we are forced to watch garbage shows.
Packerjohn
Packerjohn
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- Canada
Sounds like some sort of dictator daddy. Too bad no one could "put him in his place."
Bonnie... My AT&T is awful. In fact, the wires going past my house have all the insulation off them. (they were put in back in 1945) AT&T C. Phone coverage out here in the country where I live is null. I have to use Verison which has a tower about 2 miles from me. No internet from them. I went to Best Buy & they set me up with a great Senior Verison plan. I use to be on Sprint C.P. which went downhill after T mobile bought them out. Bill used to be $185.?? My Verison C.P. bill now is only $72.55 a month. My Comcast triple play is only $188.98 a month.
grahamg
Old codger
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- South of Manchester, UK
Mmmmm, I wouldn't be quite so quick to condemn a father who raised his own children when so many fathers have no involvement at all in their children's lives, for whatever reason, (be they "too controlling, too weak, or neutral in that regard").
I know of one very strong man/father, (not sure if others might think him a dictator daddy?), but he was one of the best, if not the best I've known.
grahamg
Old codger
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- South of Manchester, UK
Okay, not better off fatherless, (fine I'm with you there!), and as far as "controlling" goes, I know a parent, (please note I'm not saying "father"), who told their child "they knew everything the child was going to do before they did it, and everything they thought or was going to say before they knew themselves"!
How waaaaaaay far over the top would you say that might be in the controlling stakes?
grahamg
Old codger
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- South of Manchester, UK
I posted this short extract elsewhere on the forum, taken from the website of an American icon, and thought it deserved more attention, and especially worth posting again here as it covers the thread topic.
Quote:
"Men must accept the fact that the day has passed when the man can stand over the wife with an iron rod asserting his authority as “boss.” This does not mean that women no longer respect masculinity, i.e., strong, dynamic manliness; woman will always respect that. But it does mean that the day has passed when women will be trampled over and treated as some slave subject to the dictates of a despotic husband."
(Break)
"Women must be respected as human beings and not be treated as mere means. Strictly speaking, there is no boss in the home; it is no lord-servant relationship. The family should be a cooperative enterprise where all members are working together for a common goal."
https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/...rn-family-sermon-dexter-avenue-baptist-church
Quote:
"Men must accept the fact that the day has passed when the man can stand over the wife with an iron rod asserting his authority as “boss.” This does not mean that women no longer respect masculinity, i.e., strong, dynamic manliness; woman will always respect that. But it does mean that the day has passed when women will be trampled over and treated as some slave subject to the dictates of a despotic husband."
(Break)
"Women must be respected as human beings and not be treated as mere means. Strictly speaking, there is no boss in the home; it is no lord-servant relationship. The family should be a cooperative enterprise where all members are working together for a common goal."
https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/...rn-family-sermon-dexter-avenue-baptist-church