How to Compare COVID Deaths for Vaccinated and Unvaccinated People

Alligatorob

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I know this is a controversial topic, but my unvaccinated (and over 65) brother just tested positive for Covid so I have been doing some research. I came across this recent Scientific American article.

It says what we have long known, and now even more data is available. People who are vaccinated are less likely to die when they contract Covid than the unvaccinated.

Fortunately the death rates are low, only about 0.01% even for unvaccinated over 65. Still that is about 10 times higher than vaccinated. This article does not say so, but I believe that also translates to being less sick.
 

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Alligatorob said:
I know this is a controversial topic, but my unvaccinated (and over 65) brother just tested positive for Covid so I have been doing some research. I came across this recent Scientific American article.

It says what we have long known, and now even more data is available. People who are vaccinated are less likely to die when they contract Covid than the unvaccinated.

Fortunately the death rates are low, only about 0.01% even for unvaccinated over 65. Still that is about 10 times higher than vaccinated. This article does not say so, but I believe that also translates to being less sick.
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Well, good then. :)
 
... and the fake news continues....

The proven damage to children and adults from the measures taken - masking, jabs, isolation, shutdowns,

caused trillions of dollars of loss, and millions more harmed, than by any real or fake virus.

The money/power/elite have gotten what they wanted, and become much much much richer doing so, and their power increases daily.
 

Alligatorob said:
Do you believe the Scientific American article to be fake news?

If so why?
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He can't give you any information. He worked in the medical field and has decided he is an expert in all things medical. He knows how to cure cancer and all illnesses. Yet, I have not seen him anywhere, curing anybody or anything. All news is fake and we are just a bunch of doorknobs that don't have a clue.
 
I guess you can't find a door knob to open a door to consider that all things you believe are based only on your opinions and your information. I guess we should all be jumping for joy, we have someone that can solve any health issue that comes are way. Do you ever consider other opinions or studies that do not meet your approval.

I go to the doctor, I have regular checkups, blood work, colonscopies, cat scans.
I take supplements for vitamins or minerals that are low according to the blood work. I take regular treatment for migraines, I still have them but not as painful as they once were. No, I do not take narcotics for pain relief of the migraines. I had to have a hip replacement last year. I did take narcotics for pain after surgery as needed. Is that okay? Should a major surgery cause no pain?

Where do you draw the line when you need medical intervention. If you have made it this far with no issues you are very much the minority.

There must be more interesting things you have to share but you are stuck on medical and fake news. Just be a regular guy and let people get to know you. Tell us about your family, your hobbies, your travels.
 
Medical idolatry , see online, is the biggest deception and the thing most worshiped sinfully on earth today. Possibly even more than any man-based religion. It and religion are possibly or probably the biggest danger to man than anything else besides love of money.
It has grown exponentially, horrifically, for over a century, not to care for people, but for sheer godless profits.
The natural ways, the healthy ways, are pushed aside, ignored or just unknown now, often, but some still hold to them, find them, the ways God gave for healing and for preventing problems.
 
What about the Spanish flu, was that a mirage as well? That was well before the days of big pharma and technology. Let's take it back further, centuries ago, when there was this thing that was called the plague.

Was history just made up? Did those things not happen? Was it fake news, covered up by the government? Was big pharma trying to make money off of it?
 
Get your real news from the Internet bloggers. That way, you will be an insider knowing what's really going on. But the real boost is knowing you are one of the elite that sees the hidden conspiracy afoot. The medical community is injecting us with tracking devices and nanobots turning us into cyborgs and metahumans so General Zod can rule the planet.
 
You never heard the truth while growing up about those things, did you ? Rmember that the victor rewrites history. History happens, but what you were taught, like most all of us, about what happened was re-written totally by the powers in charge/in control.
Oh, you might still find the truth if you look for it, but it is not easy. The whole system/family/community you grew up in , that almost everyone grew up in, was prevented from knowing the truth, on purpose, by those in power - yes, in the u.s.a. and most if not all countries.
Blessed said:
Was history just made up? Did those things not happen?
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Alligatorob said:
just tested positive for Covid so I have been doing some research
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Why did you do some research ?
The sources of most research are the ones promoting the fake pandemic and all the harmful measures taken .

Did you do any research on why the tests are mostly or totally unreliable ?
i.e. it was reported somewhere that a positive test without symptoms later became a negative test - no disease. The status or results of a test was never reliable in the system as it is used.
 
So, I everything I learned in church about God, Jesus and the bible, their love for me was all made up. I don't think the government kept me from going to church, twice on Sunday and on Wednesday evenings. Should I just throw that all away? Was none of that true or just make believe?
 
Why, because I believe in my heavenly father? I don't need to search everything, I know that I have to put my trust in him and him in me. He will guide me in all. You seem to be the one that is searching. If you were at peace with the world around you, you would not need to go crazy searching or blaming.
 
If or when you put your trust in Him, Him Willing,
He will guide you to freedom from the medical lies .

If you don't, He May of May not, it's up to Him.
 
He does not talk to me about medical lies. He talks to me about the kingdom of heaven. That his son died for me that I may live eternally in heaven. All things on earth and in heaven are made by him.
 
Blessed said:
He does not talk to me about medical lies.
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He does not talk to most in the world about any lies, medical, political, money, financial, real estate, education, hospitals, stock market, mob, hollywood, etc etc etc .....
He does not even hear their prayers, because they love sin instead of Him.
 
So we should all assume that we are not worthy of his love or attention. That are prayers are not heard or answered. When I pray the list of things you have given are not on my list. I pray for guidance when struggling, I pray for him to look after my family and friends. I pray for him to give comfort to those that are sick, hungry, homeless and lost.

I have yet to meet people or heard prayers for the the things you listed. Prayers should not be self serving, wishing harm to people, wishing for sucess in your life. Sucess is earned by hard work in all areas of your life. Prayers are for giving thanks all of the things that you have been given, no matter how small or how great. Just to give thanks for the life that he has given. It is up to us to make it a happy life.
 
Blessed said:
He does not talk to me about medical lies. He talks to me about the kingdom of heaven.
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Oh really ? In the kingdom of heaven, wherever and everywhere that God Rules, there is no botox, and no need for it.

re Max Gerson, MD, et al. if you want God's Way, non-toxic, non-lie, of Relief /Freedom from headaches including migraines.
 

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