I don't mean to offend anyone, just an observation.

Mr. Ed

Mr. Ed

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When there are changes in society or if the powers that be wanted to overhaul society's beliefs and change the standards of the world, the media will flood all media types endorsing the change and support of. Examples 1960s-1970s equality and racial acceptance, women's rights, and gay/lesbian awareness/acceptance.

These are not coincidence, they are created to sway public opinion. I should note however, I do not disagree with these changes but I disagree with method used and the impending awareness how little freedom we actually have.
 

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You are totally ignoring the work and efforts of people like Martin Luther King Jr. and others who worked and died for these various causes. Are you calling them media created? I worked in some of these movements and media followed us, not vice versa. At SDS meetings we threw the press out, not welcome them in.

You don't understand these movements. I doubt you put any time in with them. Therefore your speculation is based on not knowing and I find it disrespectful.

Unless I'm not comprehending your OP.
 
One thing is for certain, the media, meaning TV, radio and newspapers and now social media play a huge part in our lives. They can make some (more like many) people believe whatever the narrative of the day is. Like telling us the border is secure.
 

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One thing is for certain, the media, meaning TV, radio and newspapers and now social media play a huge part in our lives. They can make some (more like many) people believe whatever the narrative of the day is. Like telling us the border is secure.
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Where is the media telling us "the border is secure?"
 
Pepper said:
You are totally ignoring the work and efforts of people like Martin Luther King Jr. and others who worked and died for these various causes. Are you calling them media created? I worked in some of these movements and media followed us, not vice versa. At SDS meetings we threw the press out, not welcome them in.

You don't understand these movements. I doubt you put any time in with them. Therefore your speculation is based on not knowing and I find it disrespectful.

Unless I'm not comprehending your OP.
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There is, I suspect, a large motivational divergence between 'then' and 'now' - at one time the thrust was to be part of society - now, it would appear, it's to destroy society.
 
Mr. Ed said:
When there are changes in society or if the powers that be wanted to overhaul society's beliefs and change the standards of the world, the media will flood all media types endorsing the change and support of. Examples 1960s-1970s equality and racial acceptance, women's rights, and gay/lesbian awareness/acceptance.

These are not coincidence, they are created to sway public opinion. I should note however, I do not disagree with these changes but I disagree with method used and the impending awareness how little freedom we actually have.
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Yes, ultimately the media does control popular opinion and the support of prescribed opinions but we are free to disagree. St least, so far.
 
Unless you start your own business and take full responsibility for everything financial in your life, you are a beggar. And beggars can't be choosy as we all know. If someone gives you a job, they have granted you a privilege and you should never forget that that is the real nature of things.
If the government levees a tax on you, you have an obligation to pay for any privileges that come from the use of that tax money.

So when it comes to the idea of freedom, freedom only exists for people willing to take complete responsibility for their own well being,
We can bitch and criticize all we want , but we better show up tomorrow for work. Is that the freedom we're losing?

Freedom is just an illusion. You're kept in place by forces beyond your control. Politicians use the freedom thing as a scare tactic to get you to vote.

And as Mark Twain is often attributed as saying, " if voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it."
 
I think media reports on events, but doesn't necessarily create them. Civil Rights protest weren't going anywhere. Then Dr. King sent out kids to protest. The cops were there with dogs and water hoses. Sorry to be so harsh, but that was great TV. It's one thing to talk about hate, but it's another to put it on a screen. I think media reports on changes, and follows trends rather than create them. The media amplifies changes, and makes the causes known, but has little to with creating them. If the media was this all powerful force, we'd all be buying that deodorant from the immensely irritating gynecologist, and you're still using the same old stuff?
 
911 said:
One thing is for certain, the media, meaning TV, radio and newspapers and now social media play a huge part in our lives. They can make some (more like many) people believe whatever the narrative of the day is. Like telling us the border is secure.
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Yes, just take a trip to the border. ... anyone who wants to see, with their own eyes, what is going on at the Texas-Mexico border can view illegals crossing everywhere, any day of the week.

It's been out of control so long it seems 'normal'...
 
Mr. Ed said:
When there are changes in society or if the powers that be wanted to overhaul society's beliefs and change the standards of the world, the media will flood all media types endorsing the change and support of. Examples 1960s-1970s equality and racial acceptance, women's rights, and gay/lesbian awareness/acceptance.

These are not coincidence, they are created to sway public opinion. I should note however, I do not disagree with these changes but I disagree with method used and the impending awareness how little freedom we actually have.
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What are the alternatives? Seriously, I can't think of any.
 
I have seen many, many changes since I was a little tyke back in the 1950s. Some changes were good; others were not so good.

Living in a democracy, I uphold people's options. Actually, I tend to respect people who speak out against the current established trend a lot more than the "sheep" who follow the media and do as they are told. Now, some speak out against the current trend and they are wrong. That is OK with me. I guess you could use Donald Trump as an example. However, I admire all those that voice their options rather than blindly follow the sheep.

In a democracy, we are suppose to have "Freedom of Speech." I like "Freedom of Speech" and always will. It will be a very sad day for the world if we ever lose it.

I don't agree with all the comments here on the Senior Forum and I bet there are a lot of folks that don't agree with mind. That's alright! We badly need discussion and new ideas to keep our brains sharp and we need to learn something new everyday. The brain needs to be exercised and I intend to keep my in good shape as long as I'm breathing. Thanks for reading!
 
Pepper said:
You are totally ignoring the work and efforts of people like Martin Luther King Jr. and others who worked and died for these various causes. Are you calling them media created? I worked in some of these movements and media followed us, not vice versa. At SDS meetings we threw the press out, not welcome them in.

You don't understand these movements. I doubt you put any time in with them. Therefore your speculation is based on not knowing and I find it disrespectful.

Unless I'm not comprehending your OP.
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Well said and true...agree!
 
Mr. Ed said:
How much do I think on my own? Do I have original thoughts? What is original thinking?
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Without information, you're not thinking, you're wondering.
And maybe it's for others to decide whether or not you have an original thought. If someone says to you "Wow, first time I've ever heard that one", maybe you had an original thought.
 
I suggest people look up "Operation: Mockingbird"

Operation Mockingbird is an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early years of the Cold War and attempted to manipulate domestic American news media organizations for propaganda purposes. According to author Deborah Davis, Operation Mockingbird recruited leading American journalists into a propaganda network and influenced the operations of front groups. CIA support of front groups was exposed when an April 1967 Ramparts article reported that the National Student Association received funding from the CIA.[1] In 1975, Church Committee Congressional investigations revealed Agency connections with journalists and civic groups.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Or like certain media telling certain people to overthrow the government and overturn legal elections? Yes, that media and those people have shown to be very gullible. Nothing to be proud of.
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Yep, and there's zero coverage on that media of the recommendations for criminal charges to be brought against those responsible for the insurrection and attempted coup.

I check every few days to see what they're covering and it's mostly just propaganda and conspiracy theories. It's truly pathetic that they're the number one source for information for so many people.
 
Just an observation on my part…Has anyone noted that most news is the same 10 or so stories on a daily basis reported by all the news carriers? If the associated press reports the story it seems that all the major and local news stations regurgitate the same info. This alone can make it seem like they are all sometimes endorsing an issue. You have to subscribe to a top notch newspaper that still has good reporters to get anything at all different.
 
Muskrat said:
Just an observation on my part…Has anyone noted that most news is the same 10 or so stories on a daily basis reported by all the news carriers? If the associated press reports the story it seems that all the major and local news stations regurgitate the same info. This alone can make it seem like they are all sometimes endorsing an issue. You have to subscribe to a top notch newspaper that still has good reporters to get anything at all different.
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When people write a comment like that, they never provide an example. I'm not saying you're wrong, @Muskrat, but could you provide an example of the stories only "top notch newspapers" are covering that the others aren't?
 
Before I retired a lot of my coworkers were from different countries and they were always so surprised that I had no idea of big events happening in other countries. Somehow that doesn't show up much in the news that I see. About a month after the war in Ukraine started when the news seemed to drop it, my daughter surprised me because she thought it was over.
 
SeniorBen said:
Yep, and there's zero coverage on that media of the recommendations for criminal charges to be brought against those responsible for the insurrection and attempted coup.

I check every few days to see what they're covering and it's mostly just propaganda and conspiracy theories. It's truly pathetic that they're the number one source for information for so many people.
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I check in also, and agree.
 
SeniorBen said:
Yep, and there's zero coverage on that media of the recommendations for criminal charges to be brought against those responsible for the insurrection and attempted coup.

I check every few days to see what they're covering and it's mostly just propaganda and conspiracy theories. It's truly pathetic that they're the number one source for information for so many people.
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I have seen coverage of it on my National news quite a bit.
 

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