I guess I’m getting old....

[horseless carriage]

Once the introduction of porn was accepted into our culture as being a good thing, almost the norm, women suffered a terrible injustice IMO. Over time, pressure mounted on women to perform certain sex acts that were considered shocking when I was a girl. Today, young people now send each other explicit sexual photos of themselves without a second thought. Tragic outcome for girls and women generally IMO.

Tragic for men too, although many don't know it. Pornography is corrosive in that it is damaging relationships: There is a portrayal of women that actually subverts lust and creates complacency. it is killing off marriage, female sexuality, female libido and finally sex itself because it breaks the connection between lust and love.
Not having children I cannot comment on young people's opinion, but I would be crushed if a relative of mine ever publicly performed any sort of sexual act for the titillation of a remote audience.

 

[Aneeda72]

Tragic for men too, although many don't know it. Pornography is corrosive in that it is damaging relationships: There is a portrayal of women that actually subverts lust and creates complacency. it is killing off marriage, female sexuality, female libido and finally sex itself because it breaks the connection between lust and love.
Not having children I cannot comment on young people's opinion, but I would be crushed if a relative of mine ever publicly performed any sort of sexual act for the titillation of a remote audience.

I have a different view as do many. It’s a service as long as all parties are engaged in such services by choice. Unfortunately many are not. As far as killing off marriage, there are studies that say the opposite. Marriage does not mean sexual compatibility.

I can see you might be upset and embarrassed, but why crushed? Just curious. Especially a remote situation where the performer, who could be either a man or a woman, is safe. It’s odd that you think mostly women would be effected. Many men are performers, its an equal opportunity field of employment.

 

[fmdog44]

Then there is the other side of the coin. Our house had no AC. The TV was always on the fritz. Hot dogs were sometimes green. Milk spoiled before it was empty. Food poisoning was everywhere. Lawn mowers weighed a ton. Garbage cans were made of tin and filled with maggots. Machine guns could be purchased through the mail. There was no express checkout lines at grocery stores. Flat tires were routine. Mail took too long. Police could get away with damn near everything. Litter was everywhere and pollution was rampant.

 

[fmdog44]

To my thinking, the mid 60s were when everything began to change.

The sociologists say things changed after the end of WWII and I think I agree with that idea.

 

[timoc]

I guess I’m getting old....​

I've put my shirt on back to front again.

 

[horseless carriage]

It’s odd that you think mostly women would be effected. Many men are performers, its an equal opportunity field of employment.

"but I would be crushed if a relative of mine ever publicly performed any sort of sexual act."
There was no mention of gender in my post.

 

[Aneeda72]

"but I would be crushed if a relative of mine ever publicly performed any sort of sexual act."
There was no mention of gender in my post.

Hmm, “there is a portrayal of woman“ etc. and goes on in great detail about women, continues to mention “female sexuality and female libido“ which led me to believe you were talking more about females than males.

While you DID mention gender in your post, referring repeatedly to women/females, you did not specifically say what gender the relative, of yours, would have to be for you to be crushed if they engaged in a sexual performance in front of an audience.

I am interested and curious by your word crushed and you did not answer my question, of course, you don’t have to answer my question. It always surprises me when someone brings up a subject, makes a judgement, and then won’t engage in a discussion about what they said.

I have found that while people would be upset or crushed if their relatives engaged in cheap porn movies, they would not be so upset or crushed if those same relatives were so-called A listed stars, making the big bucks, on the big screen.

I would not be upset or crushed with either choice. I would be upset, not crushed, if a relative of mine killed dogs in an animal shelter or people in prison for a living, but you have to do what you have to do. I suppose it’s all relative to your situation.

 

[Glowworm]

I think as someone earlier said that most of us look back on the past through rose coloured glasses without thinking about the bad things and the negatives. I wouldn't want to go through some of the things again that I experienced in my childhood years because I was a "useless cripple and a freak" in some people's eyes. There were lots of other things in those days you don't have today that I'm sure many of us were glad to see go: poor sanitation, no running water, rickets, diphtheria, polio, measles, whooping cough to name a few

 

[Pappy]

 

[fuzzybuddy]

If you can remember when antiques were brand new, you're old. I don't know why that's a big deal. All you have to do is not die. I've been pretty good at doing that. When I look at my much younger self,, and my much older self; it's perfectly clear what the difference is. My older self is a much better liar.

 

[officerripley]

The sociologists say things changed after the end of WWII and I think I agree with that idea.

I do too; I've read a lot of what sociologists, psychologists, historians, anthropologist have written about it and the majority seem to think that, here in the States anyway, a lot of things changed after WW2. Things are always changing all the time, of course; but seems like there were the most changes so far in a social/family dynamics/human relationship kinda way after WW2.

Sometimes I think maybe because so many guys who had fought in WW2 were able to go to college on the GI Bill? And then after getting that college degree, to make it worthwhile they had to move to the other side of the country to get a job in the defense contracting industry. And they only took their wives with them to move into all the new things called suburbs rather than whole extended families migrating like it used to be in the past. So say what you want about being near extended family, I think that being done away with in so many cases must've had some kind of effect.

 

[saltydog]

The “good old days” are in the eyes of the beholder. I recently read a story, on another forum, written by a young person (in their early 30’s) about his “good old days.” He was writing about the late 1990’s.

“These are the good old days.” Carly Simon.

 

[Mr. Ed]

The mystery is solved, I no longer guess or think I am getting old. At this time in my life I certain I am old. Whew, what a relief to know I am old without thinking or guessing.