Marylin's still got it.I

She was an icon, and married a bunch of icon husbands that covered all of the male qualities, from Mr. Coffee to all those other guys. She almost made it to First Lady, which would have capped her romantic adventures.
 
She and JFK made headlines in the day.

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Marilyn Monroe’s First Photo Shoot by Joseph Jasgur in 1946​

Joseph Jasgur (1919-2009) was a photographer who photographed celebrities during the golden age of Hollywood, especially Marilyn Monroe.

Marilyn Monroe a.k.a. Norma Jeane Dougherty , stepped into Jasgur’s studio in 1946 with no money, but the ambition to become a model. Jasgur shot numerous photographs of her over the following weeks, including glamour shots that she used in her 20th Century Fox interview.

Jasgur sold the rights to his entire portfolio, including the Monroe photographs, to a contractor, and spent the last years of his life trying to regain control of it.

Take a look at these glamorous photos of Marilyn Monroe during her first photo shoot – when she was still known as Norma Jeane Dougherty. Jasgur shot her while in his studio and with a group of actors, on Zuma Beach, California.




















 
That last photo of MM is interesting because it was very likely taken near Malibu, or certainly on the Pacific Coast Hwy north of Santa Monica. You can see how it looked before it got popular to live there. By the '60s you couldn't see the ocean for the homes built on the beach!

Great pictures of Marilyn, though. Her allure is obvious even in 1946.
 
Rose65 said:
She was just beautiful, also incredibly intelligent - higher IQ than Einstein as I read somewhere.
Actually, I also think Elizabeth Taylor was gorgeous but which was more beautiful?
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Completely unfounded.

There is no evidence she was ever even tested, and this myth didn't start circulating until 2013. Publicists started far milder forms of it in the 1950s and these made the rounds after her death.

Give her credit, but keep it in proportion. You can even find outlandish claims that she used to sleep with Einstein. There seem to be a lot of serious cases of "Soap Opera Brain" out there.

No wonder those check-out aisle rags always sold so well.
 
JustDave said:
She was an icon, and married a bunch of icon husbands that covered all of the male qualities, from Mr. Coffee to all those other guys. She almost made it to First Lady, which would have capped her romantic adventures.
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I think JFK was too smart for that. Marilyn was for sex. Jackie was First Lady material. Maybe I'm the only one here who thought MM was trashy. She just struck me that way.
 
chic said:
I think JFK was too smart for that. Marilyn was for sex. Jackie was First Lady material. Maybe I'm the only one here who thought MM was trashy. She just struck me that way.
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That was an image she carefully cultivated, I think you were supposed to see it that way. I understand she was also very intelligent, but she covered that up because the "trashy" was more flashy.
 
chic said:
I think JFK was too smart for that. Marilyn was for sex. Jackie was First Lady material. Maybe I'm the only one here who thought MM was trashy. She just struck me that way.
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My parents were going to all the movies when she was a star and they considered her that way. My mom couldn't stand the breathy way she talked and I know my mother wouldn't have considered being one of the president's many mistresses something to be proud of.

But when a young actress dies at the height of her fame and beauty then she becomes an icon and people look at her 30 year-old pictures and say "she's still got it."

Unlike Elizabeth Taylor or most of her co stars we didn't see her get old and fat and lose her mystic.
 
I don't believe MM had more than average intelligence. But we didn't admire her for her intellect. Reportedly Jayne Mansfield was actually quite intelligent, but she was cashing in on the blonde bombshell image, which she pretty much did.

MM loved the camera and all the attention from her career at first. But by the later 1950s she grew weary of the image that she'd become. She married Arthur Miller, and tried to absorb intellectual pursuits. That didn't last. Instead she found barbiturates, and when downhill from there.
 
dilettante said:
Completely unfounded.

There is no evidence she was ever even tested, and this myth didn't start circulating until 2013. Publicists started far milder forms of it in the 1950s and these made the rounds after her death.

Give her credit, but keep it in proportion. You can even find outlandish claims that she used to sleep with Einstein. There seem to be a lot of serious cases of "Soap Opera Brain" out there.

No wonder those check-out aisle rags always sold so well.
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Interesting. You are right in that we should look at the facts and all I did was Google it.
 
Dave03 said:
I'm probably in the minority here, but Jayne Mansfield.......
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Mansfield... What???

While I'm on it, when I was 10 years old, my best friend from Chicago, went on a vacation to California, where they spent time in Hollywood, and watched them shooting a movie with Jayne Mansfield. My friend got her autograph, and one for me too. She had lovely handwriting, and she addressed a personal note using my name, and she dotted the "i" in Mansfield with a huge heart. Over the years, the autograph disappeared or got discarded. Well, I was only ten, and not thinking about the future.

Later when I was 20 or so and living in Western Montana, I saw Mansfield live in a stage play at Spokane, Washington. The name of the play was The Rabbit Habit, which sounded exciting, except the play was totally uninteresting. I can't remember anything about it, except that Jayne was in it. However, Jayne herself did a good job and had her lines down, but her co-star, some guy or another blanked and forgot his lines at one point and during the uncomfortable silence, we could hear some crew member calling out the lines from behind the curtain. Her co-star recovered and finished the play. I remember feeling embarrassed for the guy.
 
Too many stars die from drugs. Hollywood and the fame that follows is often a bitter pill.

Both Monroe and Presley need to be left in their graves. We need to move on!
 
JustDave said:
Mansfield... What???

While I'm on it, when I was 10 years old, my best friend from Chicago, went on a vacation to California, where they spent time in Hollywood, and watched them shooting a movie with Jayne Mansfield. My friend got her autograph, and one for me too. She had lovely handwriting, and she addressed a personal note using my name, and she dotted the "i" in Mansfield with a huge heart. Over the years, the autograph disappeared or got discarded. Well, I was only ten, and not thinking about the future.

Later when I was 20 or so and living in Western Montana, I saw Mansfield live in a stage play at Spokane, Washington. The name of the play was The Rabbit Habit, which sounded exciting, except the play was totally uninteresting. I can't remember anything about it, except that Jayne was in it. However, Jayne herself did a good job and had her lines down, but her co-star, some guy or another blanked and forgot his lines at one point and during the uncomfortable silence, we could hear some crew member calling out the lines from behind the curtain. Her co-star recovered and finished the play. I remember feeling embarrassed for the guy.
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I'm impressed, Dave, that you got to see her in person!

Mansfield quickly became a campy caricature of MM and others. When I moved to Biloxi, Miss. a local merchant told me about her demise.

She was being driven to New Orleans from Biloxi after a gig at Gus Stevens' night club. As they drove over the bridge at the Rigolets on old Rte. 90 they slammed into the back of a trailer rig that had slowed down due to a mosquito fogger truck. It had been foggy. They got jammed under the trailer, which sheared off the car's top, and instantly killed her and the other two in the front seat. Her children were laying asleep in the back, and were not injured. There was a salacious rumor that she'd been decapitated, but that arose from their finding her wig and it's bust form in the wreckage. She was quite an icon.
 

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