Miami mother hit's her daughter in her face, body slams her than chokes her

I don't know why such things happen. Maybe this "mother" was out of her mind for a moment, maybe drugs (even alcohol) could have played a role, maybe the mother is jealous (don't forget that she is a "teen-daughter") and some more reasons.

Several decades ago I watched the scene as a mother yelled at her maybe 10 year old daughter "Du dumme Pute" (literally: you stupid turkey hen). It's very derogatory. The girl started to cry. I could have hugged her and slapped the mother, especially as there was no reason for this woman to get so upset.
 

What we don't know, and what hasn't been made clear in the article is whether this was a one-off, or whether there have been previous instances of the teenage daughter leaving a mess on the floor for her mother to clear up. So do we know whether the mother was provoked into her actions, or whether she just snapped for no reason?
 
I never really acknowledged much less understood such increasingly abhorrent behavior before but as of late but could this phenomenon be

1. Narcotics and or alcohol abuse

2. Mental instability

3. Uncontrollable violent tendencies

4. Self hate

5. All of the above

I well know historically my choices are out of date but I personally feel it's time to commit the violators to intensive counseling before release and post release restrictive monitoring.

I am not an expert on State and Federal Corrections law but this is the best idea I have to offer. Take care.
 
taliovelez said:
I never really acknowledged much less understood such increasingly abhorrent behavior before but as of late but could this phenomenon be

1. Narcotics and or alcohol abuse

2. Mental instability

3. Uncontrollable violent tendencies

4. Self hate

5. All of the above

I well know historically my choices are out of date but I personally feel it's time to commit the violators to intensive counseling before release and post release restrictive monitoring.

I am not an expert on State and Federal Corrections law but this is the best idea I have to offer. Take care.
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I agree and choose number 5
 
This happened to me on an almost daily basis, from mostly my father.. but occasionally my mother... for the smallest reasons...

for example... when I was 13 I came home full of excitement that I;d achieved a long jump in school sports, of 13 feet.... I was called a liar, by my mother, and she screamed that even the professional athletes didn't jump that same length 9 later I learned she was grossly mistaken) .... and I was beaten to the floor with a Broom handle... , and she knelt on my chest slapping and punching.. ...I had done nothing but tell my long jump achievement


... another time.. i was 15.. and stood ironing, didn't get out of the way of one of my siblings fast enough for my father's satsfaction, so he jumped out of his chair, beat me to the ground , kicking, punching, I fell to the floor over and over, he kept dragging me up, and kicking me in my lower back and utlimately, broke my coccyx.. and STILL tried to make me stand up.... even tho' I couldn't stand.. and didn't stop beating me until my mother eventually stepped in...

...but there was almost daily beatings in my childhood, and starvation... at times..... ...there was no childline for help in those days

Neither of my parents took drugs or alcohol..nor were they mentally challenged... just vicious....
 
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hollydolly said:
This happened to me on an almost daily basis, from mostly my father.. but occasionally my mother... for the smallest reasons...

for example... when I was 13 I came home full of excitement that I;d achieved a long jump in school sports, of 13 feet.... I was called a liar, by my mother, and she screamed that even the professional athletes didn't jump that same length 9 later I learned she was grossly mistaken) .... and I was beaten to the floor with a Broom handle... , and she knelt on my chest slapping and punching.. ...I had done nothing but tell my long jump achievement


... another time.. i was 15.. and stood ironing, didn't get out of the way of one of my siblings fast enough for my father's satsfaction, so he jumped out of his chair, beat me to the ground , kicking, punching, I fell to the floor over and over, he kept dragging me up, and kicking me in my lower back and utlimately, broke my coccyx.. and STILL tried to make me stand up.... even tho' I couldn't stand.. and didn't stop beating me util my mother eventually stepped in...

...but there was almost daily beatings in my childhood, and starvation... at times..... ...there was no childline for help in those days

Neither of my parents took drugs or alcohol..nor were they mentally challenged... just vicious....
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I don't even know how you survived @hollydolly. At what age were you able to get away if I may ask?
 
LoveTulips said:
I don't even know how you survived @hollydolly. At what age were you able to get away if I may ask?
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I was 16 when I ran away the first time.... then i had to go back because my mother was ill.. then I got away again at 17.. then had to come back when I was 18 and a half.. and my mother died one month later.. so I had to stay to look after my younger sibblings.. one was only 10 years old..

I fiinally got away just afte my 21st birthday but not before the sperm donor ( that's what I prefer to call him).. gave me a hiding on my 21 st birthday,

I never stepped foot inside his house again... he died when I was in my 50's.. and I had nothing to do with him...up until he died...
 
hollydolly said:
This happened to me on an almost daily basis, from mostly my father.. but occasionally my mother... for the smallest reasons...

for example... when I was 13 I came home full of excitement that I;d achieved a long jump in school sports, of 13 feet.... I was called a liar, by my mother, and she screamed that even the professional athletes didn't jump that same length 9 later I learned she was grossly mistaken) .... and I was beaten to the floor with a Broom handle... , and she knelt on my chest slapping and punching.. ...I had done nothing but tell my long jump achievement


... another time.. i was 15.. and stood ironing, didn't get out of the way of one of my siblings fast enough for my father's satsfaction, so he jumped out of his chair, beat me to the ground , kicking, punching, I fell to the floor over and over, he kept dragging me up, and kicking me in my lower back and utlimately, broke my coccyx.. and STILL tried to make me stand up.... even tho' I couldn't stand.. and didn't stop beating me util my mother eventually stepped in...

...but there was almost daily beatings in my childhood, and starvation... at times..... ...there was no childline for help in those days

Neither of my parents took drugs or alcohol..nor were they mentally challenged... just vicious....
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How you survived and came out as stable as you seem, is beyond me. It's a wonder they hadn't accidently killed you.
 
hollydolly said:
yes I've thought this many times... ..
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I feel so sad for any child to have to endure physical beatings. I got whipped with belts and hit with switches as a child but never to the point I felt like it was a beating. Nowadays parents couldn't do what my parents even did, or they'd have the Child Protection Agency after them and possibly had us taken away.
 
TeePee said:
I feel so sad for any child to have to endure physical beatings. I got whipped with belts and hit with switches as a child but never to the point I felt like it was a beating. Nowadays parents couldn't do what my parents even did, or they'd have the Child Protection Agency after them and possibly had us taken away.
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I got the belt many times.. ..I can't tell you how often... he was very handy at whipping off his belt and whacking me with the buckle end...

First time I remember getting a real beating..I was 4 years old... I'd got gum from somewhere ( we weren't allowed bubblegum) and I was chewing it at breakfast time.. he went berserk... swung me round by my hair.....

On reflection I think probably he'd hit me before then, but it was my first memory of a beating...
 
Another person with mental issues. Maybe she was treated in that fashion as a teen herself. I’m sorry the young girl is living in that type of environment. Perhaps, the judge will put her into foster care, if it’s decided that would be best.
 
I know this only too well. Some nickel and dime law school graduate will convince the "I could care less" judge that if mommy agrees to a lower sentence like aggravated harassment, she will receive extended probation, weekly drug testing, agree to counseling then released to do it again somewhere down the road.

Gavel bangs, next case.
 
hollydolly said:
This happened to me on an almost daily basis, from mostly my father.. but occasionally my mother... for the smallest reasons...

for example... when I was 13 I came home full of excitement that I;d achieved a long jump in school sports, of 13 feet.... I was called a liar, by my mother, and she screamed that even the professional athletes didn't jump that same length 9 later I learned she was grossly mistaken) .... and I was beaten to the floor with a Broom handle... , and she knelt on my chest slapping and punching.. ...I had done nothing but tell my long jump achievement


... another time.. i was 15.. and stood ironing, didn't get out of the way of one of my siblings fast enough for my father's satsfaction, so he jumped out of his chair, beat me to the ground , kicking, punching, I fell to the floor over and over, he kept dragging me up, and kicking me in my lower back and utlimately, broke my coccyx.. and STILL tried to make me stand up.... even tho' I couldn't stand.. and didn't stop beating me until my mother eventually stepped in...

...but there was almost daily beatings in my childhood, and starvation... at times..... ...there was no childline for help in those days

Neither of my parents took drugs or alcohol..nor were they mentally challenged... just vicious....
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BJintheUK said:
What we don't know, and what hasn't been made clear in the article is whether this was a one-off, or whether there have been previous instances of the teenage daughter leaving a mess on the floor for her mother to clear up. So do we know whether the mother was provoked into her actions, or whether she just snapped for no reason?
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Not that nearly killing your child is excusable, right? Obviously, mom has some sort of issue, but while issues may explain dangerous criminal behavior, they don't excuse it.


There's been a significant increase in parental abuse over the past couple decades, and a few scientists and psychologists are studying it (or have studied it), looking for specific causes. Some of the things they're looking into are food additives, chemical imbalance, physiological and social changes, bad eating habits, and adult people's absent parents/both parents worked.

As far as I know, it's only a few small studies. I hope someone gets funding for a major study. It's important.
 
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I'm no expert on this subject but I think the one big problem over the past couple of generations or two are latch key kids. Also another big problem are single family households. Either there's no one to supervise these children during their formative years or the parents just don't care until it's too late and then the parents go off of the deep end. There are some parents out there that should never have had children but there's nothing society can do about that unfortunately except try to pick up the pieces if it's possible.
 
hollydolly said:
I got the belt many times.. ..I can't tell you how often... he was very handy at whipping off his belt and whacking me with the buckle end...

First time I remember getting a real beating..I was 4 years old... I'd got gum from somewhere ( we weren't allowed bubblegum) and I was chewing it at breakfast time.. he went berserk... swung me round by my hair.....

On reflection I think probably he'd hit me before then, but it was my first memory of a beating...
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I hear you. Mommy Dearest used sit the oak rocking chair and laugh while deciding which would cause the most pain...the belt or her wood paddle with the holes. She claimed the holes would hurt most. The neighbors knew what she was doing and would make comments to me but nothing to anyone who could help.
I will never forget when I was a teenager, she flipped out on me once too often and tried to hit her back, my step father protected her but oh the joy seeing the shock and fear in her face and I knew her as the loser she was.
 
hollydolly said:
This happened to me on an almost daily basis, from mostly my father.. but occasionally my mother... for the smallest reasons...

for example... when I was 13 I came home full of excitement that I;d achieved a long jump in school sports, of 13 feet.... I was called a liar, by my mother, and she screamed that even the professional athletes didn't jump that same length 9 later I learned she was grossly mistaken) .... and I was beaten to the floor with a Broom handle... , and she knelt on my chest slapping and punching.. ...I had done nothing but tell my long jump achievement


... another time.. i was 15.. and stood ironing, didn't get out of the way of one of my siblings fast enough for my father's satsfaction, so he jumped out of his chair, beat me to the ground , kicking, punching, I fell to the floor over and over, he kept dragging me up, and kicking me in my lower back and utlimately, broke my coccyx.. and STILL tried to make me stand up.... even tho' I couldn't stand.. and didn't stop beating me until my mother eventually stepped in...

...but there was almost daily beatings in my childhood, and starvation... at times..... ...there was no childline for help in those days

Neither of my parents took drugs or alcohol..nor were they mentally challenged... just vicious....
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Good Lord So sorry
 
My father was a harsh man in many ways. I was never beat per sae, but once at 15 came very close. The reason I think is because he was raised harshly himself. He did have a bad habit of pecking me on the head with his wadded up finger and it hurt profoundly. There again his father did same thing.
 
Happy Heart said:
I hear you. Mommy Dearest used sit the oak rocking chair and laugh while deciding which would cause the most pain...the belt or her wood paddle with the holes. She claimed the holes would hurt most. The neighbors knew what she was doing and would make comments to me but nothing to anyone who could help.
I will never forget when I was a teenager, she flipped out on me once too often and tried to hit her back, my step father protected her but oh the joy seeing the shock and fear in her face and I knew her as the loser she was.
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I did the same I readily admit. I was 17 going on 18.. and I was standing looking out of the window just musing.. and suddenly she attacked me... it was such a shock.. that I retaliated for the first time ever ( and only time)... and I grabbed her and pushed her hard off me and she fell back onto the sofa... as you say... I never forgot the look of shock on her face that told me she realised she could no longer beat me without retaliation...

With regard to belt or the paddle I got the same choices on a few occasions .. belt or Slipper... bare backside.... we'd choose the slipper, and so we would get the belt... of course it took us ( my brother and me).. some time to cotton on to choose the worst one because then they would use the other..
Mostly I didn't get the choice they would lash out... my father was particualrly handy with kicking.... and dragging by the hair...

I'm sorry you too had an abusive childhood..🤗🤗.. regardless of choices we make in adulthood, all children deserve to be loved.. we didn't ask to be here.. it's like they were forced into having us, and resented it.... and they destroyed our childhoods because THEY didn't use contraception.. and that's the base level of it...
 
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My God, Holly, that is awful! It's a wonder you survived, let alone turn out as nice as you did. Often, the survivors of child abuse end up repeating the cruelty they grew up with.
 

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