mrsa (prounounced "mursa")

Synergy

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Hello everyone -- The thread about holistic doctors gave me the idea to write about mrsa. Mrsa is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. It is highly contagious, and is common in hospitals.

It's common in hospitals when a person's immune system is weakened, such is with surgery or chemo, for instance. It's a "super bug" staph bacteria that is resistant to the most commonly used antibiotics.

It is a horrible, horrible disease than can be fatal and is extremely difficult to treat/cure/control. There's tons of information about it online with a google search. AND there's a lot of disagreement among medical professionals about how to prevent and treat it, and also how people can protect THEMSELVES from catching it from someone they know who has this infection.

Here's the story I've been dealing with, with a friend who has mrsa. I consider that she is an extremist "holistic" "alternative healthcare" person. She is/was a member of my band, which practices at either my home or the home of one or another band member's home. A chiropractor online said that the table and hand grips must be disinfected after EVERY patient.

So I told her and the rest of the band that I would not practice with her at my or anyone else's home. She was living in the home of another woman, who evicted her because of the mrsa. Then she told me via email that she had quit seeing her M.D. about it because, "He's giving me antibiotics that he KNOWS WON'T WORK." Not true! That's how they treat mrsa -- they need to be hospitalized the treated with one antibiotic after another to see which one works.

If the infection comes back, as it often does, other antibiotics have to be tried. She read somewhere that a special kind of honey would help... I don't know whether this honey is supposed to heal it, cure it for good, or clear up the huge or smaller sores on the skin.

The banjo player knows someone that said it took them MONTHS for it to clear up. She she put honey on her legs for THREE DAYS, then called me and said "I'm cured. I'm coming to practice on Monday." I said, No, that the band had to think about the situation before we could make a decision. The banjo player had been pretty luke warm about what to do till he talked to some people who had had it.

Then he became even more concerned that I am. Meanwhile the woman with the mrsa (1) continues to be a caregiver for individuals who have Alzheimers; (2) I found an apartment for her, but she said she wouldn't take it because she wants to live in a home with other people! (3) she proceeded to move into a house with a some people who already live there.

She told us the first time she informed us that she had mrsa “once you get it, you always have it.” In other words, you’re a carrier. She also I did find out that a lot of people who don’t have the sores/symptoms carry mrsa in their nose, and that is not a problem for them or anyone else. But later, with the honey thing, she said she was “cured.” In short, I absolutely do not trust this woman anymore.

Certainly not about her health issues, and protecting myself from catching mrsa from her. We had been good friends for about a year, but now as far as I’m concerned, she is “showing her true colors” as an unreliable person who doesn’t respect or care about other people’s health if she needs to protect them from her contagion.
 

Healthy people... with healthy immune systems usually don't get a mrsa infection...and it's NOT "highly contagious" if you are healthy. it's really only the very weak.... very sick... and the immunocompromised people that are affected by it.. It's also NOT an airborne antigen... You cannot get it by being in room with someone with mrsa.. you only get it by coming into contact with a mrsa infected wound... so if you are not touching someone with mrsa. or touching something they have touched after touching their wound.. you aren't going to get it.. Sorry... but IMO you are over reacting. Just make sure to practice good handwashing and that your friend does too...
 
Hi QuickSilver, Thank you for your post. It's really good to hear from you and your success working in hospitals. As for my friend, I still don't trust her. I sent her some research I did that said how important it is to wash her hands, and that we would, too -- her response? "My hands are clean." See what I mean? I can't trust her judgment. That response is just ONE of reasons why, as I said before that she's trying to get me/us to believe all sorts of things.

I have no problem whatsoever being around people who have or have had mrsa, if the person is open and honest about getting appropriate treatment. I will also comment on the response I received in email which says the comment is from you. I wonder what happened to this one:

"Did you realize that many people colonize mrsa... usually in their nostrils? I have mrsa... It's a colony kept in check by my immune system.. I have worked in hospitals for 30 years. Healthy people... with healthy immune systems usually don't get a mrsa infection... it's really only the very weak.... very sick... and the immunocompromised people that are affected by it.. IF by chance a healthy person contracts mrsa.. vancomyocin is the antibiotic that is generally used.. "

As I said before, my friend said she "has quit going to the doctor, who's 'giving me antibiotics he knows won't work'"
 

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Yes... I edited it because I decided that whether or not I have colonized mrsa is not the point, and nearly all healthcare workers are colonized. ... glad to see some special snowflake thought it so important.. to email you about it... hahahahahahaha.. To that special snowflake... Haven't you something better to worry about?
 
Well, QuickSilver, I don't think you understand, when you wrote, "Haven't you something better to worry about?" This is something that does worry me, and it's important because all this is seriously affecting my friendship with her. And I repeat: it's because of her questionable judgment and contradictory information and decisions she's been giving us. But please, I don't want to argue with you about my judgment, thanks.
 
Well, QuickSilver, I don't think you understand, when you wrote, "Haven't you something better to worry about?" This is something that does worry me, and it's important because all this is seriously affecting my friendship with her. And I repeat: it's because of her questionable judgment and contradictory information and decisions she's been giving us. But please, I don't want to argue with you about my judgment, thanks.

I wasn't referring to you Synergy.... sorry you misunderstood.. or perhaps I did... never mind..
 
You're very sweet to respond so nicely, Q.S. Thank you very much! I like the word "snowflake" for my friend? Did you make that up???? Tee hee. I think it's a gentle way to call her a "flake"? I'm sad that that does describe her -- but that's just imho anyway but of course that doubtless does not mean all her other friends see her that way. Anyway, :|...... (I'm crying inside, and sighing about this whole situation)
 
If you are around her... wash your hands.....really good... A rule of thumb... when washing your hands.. sing "Happy Birthday" in your head.. the time it takes to sing it is a long enough time to wash. If you are healthy, you really don't have to worry much about catching it... so long as you don't touch her wound or her clothing.. or her for that matter.
 
Well, Q.S. here's the deal regarding your most recent ideas....One she will not wash HER hands, so I assume, since she has already reacted to how important hand washing is..."My hands are clean." Thus, how are we to know if she does? It would be patronizing for us to try to require her to us an alcohol-based hand wipe. Plus, she is a hugger. It would devastate her if we refused to hug her back or touch her. It's a terrible situation all around. The banjo player is also extremely concerned about contact with her, after talking to other people he knows who have or have had mrsa. Well enough discussion about this topic. It's not solvable, so far as I am concerned. Or, as the health department nurse told me, "It's entirely up to your own personal comfort level." I've read enough, too, at the mrsa forum online that I remain detached from my friend, at least for now.
 
I had two hip replacements in 2013, one month apart. Before the first one, I tested negative for MRSA. Before the second one, I tested positive for a nose colonization. My surgeon said I had probably picked it up in the hospital, as a lot of people do. Probably true, because between the two surgeries I hadn't been anywhere except my home, the surgeon's office and the hospital lab. SO, 10 days before the second surgery I had to use some kind of goop in my nose for a while, and then right before the surgery they gave me a bunch of IV vancomycin --took about an hour or so. I've had no problems, and it's supposed to be gone from my nose now.

IMHO, if your doctor says you need to take antibiotics for something, you should take them. Why mess around with something like MRSA? Alternative therapies have their place, I believe, but certainly not for everything.
 
Hello, Butterfly. Thank you for this post. You wrote: "IMHO, if your doctor says you need to take antibiotics for something, you should take them. Why mess around with something like MRSA? Alternative therapies have their place, I believe, but certainly not for everything."

As for my disrespectful mrsa carrying friend, I'd change this to "IMHO, if HER doctor says SHE needs to take antibiotics for something,SHE should take them. Why mess around with something like MRSA? Alternative therapies have their place, I believe, but certainly not for everything." But try telling that to her! I sent her simple summaries of my research, and I'm sure she did not read them, because her only email response justified herself to be invited back into our homes. I declined.
 
Well, I sure didn't want to mess around with it -- it freaked me out that I was "colonized," especially after I read all the scary stuff on the internet. My surgeon, however, assured me it was manageable (at my stage, at least) by administering the correct antibiotics. He also pointed out to me that most health care workers get colonized at one time or another, and since they weren't dropping like flies, I probably wouldn't, either. BUT, they did take it seriously and treated me with the appropriate antibiotics, which I gratefully accepted.
 
Well, I sure didn't want to mess around with it -- it freaked me out that I was "colonized," especially after I read all the scary stuff on the internet. My surgeon, however, assured me it was manageable (at my stage, at least) by administering the correct antibiotics. He also pointed out to me that most health care workers get colonized at one time or another, and since they weren't dropping like flies, I probably wouldn't, either. BUT, they did take it seriously and treated me with the appropriate antibiotics, which I gratefully accepted.

I'm not concerned at this point.. It hasn't caused me any symptoms... and I haven't "dropped like a fly" either..
 
I'm not concerned at this point.. It hasn't caused me any symptoms... and I haven't "dropped like a fly" either..

Glad to hear that, QS!

Surgeon said the reason he screens for it and treats it aggressively before orthopedic surgery is if you're colonized he doesn't want those germs to get loose and infect the implant site if your resistance is down after the surgery. I sure didn't want that, either.

Anyway, I haven't dropped like a fly, either. Happily zipping around with my titanium and plastic hips and reconstructed acetabulum.
 


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