North American Weather - Is this Colder than usual?

Weather in Colorado is normal for this time of year, we had a few days this month that were cool with a tiny bit of snow, but the last couple of weeks have bee sunny and 60 F degree weather, typical for October. Supposed to cool down on Monday. About global warming...

Regarding the debate over climate change, Rivero argued that the phenomenon is actually a naturally occurring process which is simply being used as a scare tactic to generate money in the form of carbon taxes.

He dismissed the concept that human-generated carbon dioxide is the cause of global warming and contended that one volcano releases "more CO2 everyday than all the cars in America."

He also noted that water vapor and methane are far more harmful greenhouse agents, but they are rarely blamed for global warming because they cannot be directly linked to human activity like CO2 production and, thus, cannot be wielded to tax the population.

Ultimately, Rivero pointed to the hypocrisy of the government pushing for a carbon tax while simultaneously ignoring the dangerous environmental effects of fracking. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/climategate.php
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SB that quote is exactly the argument I've been trying to get across for years. That the Global Warming hyperbole is a massive revenue raising con! I just wish I'd been able to put it as well, and as succinctly as Rivero.

That is the best thing I've read in a long time. Right down to the historical great cons of the long past below the main article. Nothing's changed.

Warri?? you there?... please read it, you might finally see what DB and I have really been arguing about all these years, not climate change, or even if it's 'real' or not, but about the excuse it has been for con men to make money from the gullible.

Thank you SB that link is well and truly bookmarked!
 

http://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm




http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volcanoes_work/climate_...

Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions. Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources contribute about 10 billion tons/year. The small amount of global warming caused by eruption-generated greenhouse gases is offset by the far greater amount of global cooling caused by eruption-generated particles in the stratosphere (the haze effect). Greenhouse warming of the earth has been particularly evident since 1980. Without the cooling influence of such eruptions as El Chichon (1982) and Mt. Pinatubo (1991), described below, greenhouse warming would have been more pronounced.


Comparison of CO2 emissions from volcanoes vs. human activities.
Scientists have calculated that volcanoes emit between about 130-230 million tonnes (145-255 million tons) of CO2 into the atmosphere every year (Gerlach, 1999, 1992). This estimate includes both subaerial and submarine volcanoes, about in equal amounts. Emissions of CO2 by human activities, including fossil fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring, amount to about 22 billion tonnes per year (24 billion tons) < ( Marland, et al., 1998) - The reference gives the amount of released carbon (C), rather than CO2.>. Human activities release more than 150 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes--the equivalent of nearly 17,000 additional volcanoes like Kilauea (Kilauea emits about 13.2 million tonnes/year)!

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/What/VolGas/volgas.ht...

 
Jackie22 said:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm




http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volcanoes_work/climate_...

Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions. Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources contribute about 10 billion tons/year. The small amount of global warming caused by eruption-generated greenhouse gases is offset by the far greater amount of global cooling caused by eruption-generated particles in the stratosphere (the haze effect). Greenhouse warming of the earth has been particularly evident since 1980. Without the cooling influence of such eruptions as El Chichon (1982) and Mt. Pinatubo (1991), described below, greenhouse warming would have been more pronounced.


Comparison of CO2 emissions from volcanoes vs. human activities.
Scientists have calculated that volcanoes emit between about 130-230 million tonnes (145-255 million tons) of CO2 into the atmosphere every year (Gerlach, 1999, 1992). This estimate includes both subaerial and submarine volcanoes, about in equal amounts. Emissions of CO2 by human activities, including fossil fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring, amount to about 22 billion tonnes per year (24 billion tons) < ( Marland, et al., 1998) - The reference gives the amount of released carbon (C), rather than CO2.>. Human activities release more than 150 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes--the equivalent of nearly 17,000 additional volcanoes like Kilauea (Kilauea emits about 13.2 million tonnes/year)!

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/What/VolGas/volgas.ht...
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So to save the earth we just need to eliminate humans???

If global warming ( renamed climate change) is caused by humans how did the earth go through so many climate changes over the billions of years before humans evolved?

Al Gore has made millions from people who listen to the fear tactics rather than looking around and thinking for themselves.

Of course the climate is changing...it always has. You can learn more from history than from from the unknown future.
 
My post was to address SeaBreeze's article that states....

"He dismissed the concept that human-generated carbon dioxide is the cause of global warming and contended that one volcano releases "more CO2 everyday than all the cars in America."


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]My post states that...[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Human activity contributes more CO2 than does volcanic activity.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Now as for what causes THIS climate change....you can believe whatever you want, but as I have stated before...I will put my money on the 97% of scientist data, not some right wing conspiracy radio hack.[/FONT]
 
Jackie22 said:
My post was to address SeaBreeze's article that states....

"He dismissed the concept that human-generated carbon dioxide is the cause of global warming and contended that one volcano releases "more CO2 everyday than all the cars in America."


My post states that...

Human activity contributes more CO2 than does volcanic activity.

Now as for what causes THIS climate change....you can believe whatever you want, but as I have stated before...I will put my money on the 97% of scientist data, not some right wing conspiracy radio hack.
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Who is the "radio hack" ??
 
All your weather map is showing is that a cool front is moving into the country. This time of year we get one after the other until winter settles in for the long haul. Some areas are cooler, some warmer. Nothing usual here, merely a change of seasons.
 
I've been calling fraud from day one. I don't care about the climate changing, just the fraud using it to make big money for those pushing the notion to the gullible that it's controllable if we pay them moneeeee, lotza moneeeee. Give em the big bucks and they'll 'fix' it for us. Yeah right.
 
Global warming scares me, as I'm sure it does most of us. Our recent temps dispute that somewhat, at least the last few years of very mild winters.
 
Katybug said:
Global warming scares me, as I'm sure it does most of us. Our recent temps dispute that somewhat, at least the last few years of very mild winters.
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Politicians claiming they can fix it scares me, KB.

I try to stick to peer-reviewed scientific papers when posting about climate but I'll refer this time to Wattsupwiththat.Com, a highly-regarded sceptical blog for an article - posted last week - that ask this question:

[h=2]When Did Global Warming Begin?[/h]http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/25/when-did-global-warming-begin/

The suggestion that twentieth century warming is unusual, faster, worse than we thought, etc is fanciful when you consider the known past: Roman and Medieval Warm Periods and the Maunder Minimum. The Arctic sea ice was supposed to have disappeared last year. The Antarctic sea ice was supposed to be retreating but it's advancing and is currently still at the highest level for Summer since satellite records began. There are no trends in tropical storms, tornadoes, wildfires, droughts, or floods. Everything is perfectly normal when viewed on an historic basis. In fact, most of the disasters the media love are on the decline if you care to read research by people who study such things (eg, University of Colorado).

The current worry is that the proponents of anthropogenic warming cannot explain the current pause: Seventeen (17) years and counting with no warming while carbon dioxide emissions has continued apace. If the CO2 theory was correct, temperatures should have risen appreciably since 1997. That they haven't, should be enough to falsify the theory and have scientists (and governments) going back to the drawing boards.

I have references to hundreds of scientific papers from many, many universities around the world that cast doubt on "the science" being settled.
 
It's not typical of southern/Metro NY. That's not to say that we haven't had our temps at zero or in the teens, but they did not last as long as they have this year.
 

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