Perfect Is The Enemy Of Good

grahamg

Old codger
Why Perfect Is The Enemy Of Good
Why obsession with perfection can paralyze

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"The irony, of course, is that while "perfect" may exist as a concept that impels us to keep trying to better our work, any judgment that we've achieved it in any particular instance remains entirely subjective and therefore by definition imperfect. This almost certainly explains why we can judge something perfect one minute and then hopelessly flawed the next without making a single change.

The quest for perfection also leads to dithering: the endless reworking of a sentence or a melody or a sculpture from its original form until it comes full circle back to the form in which we originally laid it down. That trying out other possible forms may be the only way we become convinced that the original was, in fact, best, it wastes time and feels more like an itch we need to scratch than an effective creative process. And this, of course, presumes we're able to make it back around to a form we even consider good, so confused is our judgment often made by this ruminative process. More commonly, we don't so much finish a project as abandon it, not knowing what else to do to salvage it from the wreckage our own obsessive tinkering has produced.

And when we finally return to it later, we often find time away from it was the only thing that actually had the power to grant us what we most need: an improved ability to judge its quality objectively. And if we're lucky we see, sometimes in a flash that lasts only a split second, not how to make it perfect but how to make it work.


Our development as a creator of good works must at some point involve us learning how to leverage our desire for perfection to impel us toward quality without becoming trapped in a miasma of permanent dissatisfaction with everything we create. At some point, we must remind ourselves, any changes we make to a creation no longer make it better but just different (and sometimes worse)."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/happiness-in-world/201106/why-perfect-is-the-enemy-good
 

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Why Perfect Is The Enemy Of Good
Why obsession with perfection can paralyze

Quote:
"The irony, of course, is that while "perfect" may exist as a concept that impels us to keep trying to better our work, any judgment that we've achieved it in any particular instance remains entirely subjective and therefore by definition imperfect. This almost certainly explains why we can judge something perfect one minute and then hopelessly flawed the next without making a single change.

The quest for perfection also leads to dithering: the endless reworking of a sentence or a melody or a sculpture from its original form until it comes full circle back to the form in which we originally laid it down. That trying out other possible forms may be the only way we become convinced that the original was, in fact, best, it wastes time and feels more like an itch we need to scratch than an effective creative process. And this, of course, presumes we're able to make it back around to a form we even consider good, so confused is our judgment often made by this ruminative process. More commonly, we don't so much finish a project as abandon it, not knowing what else to do to salvage it from the wreckage our own obsessive tinkering has produced.

And when we finally return to it later, we often find time away from it was the only thing that actually had the power to grant us what we most need: an improved ability to judge its quality objectively. And if we're lucky we see, sometimes in a flash that lasts only a split second, not how to make it perfect but how to make it work.


Our development as a creator of good works must at some point involve us learning how to leverage our desire for perfection to impel us toward quality without becoming trapped in a miasma of permanent dissatisfaction with everything we create. At some point, we must remind ourselves, any changes we make to a creation no longer make it better but just different (and sometimes worse)."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/happiness-in-world/201106/why-perfect-is-the-enemy-good
That's exactly what my high school art teacher told me! I 'over-worked' everything, trying to make drawings and paintings that were photorealistic. Duh. Ruined almost everything. Bought a camera!
 
I wouldn't rule out wanting perfection, especially if it had to do with a life saving surgery. I'd rather a surgical team looked down & all agreed the operation was perfection instead of "I guess that's good enough".
 

I wouldn't rule out wanting perfection, especially if it had to do with a life saving surgery. I'd rather a surgical team looked down & all agreed the operation was perfection instead of "I guess that's good enough".

I agree those new heart valves they fitted, or whatever, had better be a perfect fit, and not leak, but if they took too long to fit them you might not recover from the anaesthetic either!
 
And when we finally return to it later, we often find time away from it was the only thing that actually had the power to grant us what we most need: an improved ability to judge its quality objectively. And if we're lucky we see, sometimes in a flash that lasts only a split second, not how to make it perfect but how to make it work.
Taking to long would be when a return was not only expected but needed because failure was beyond "good enough".
 
I agree those new heart valves they fitted, or whatever, had better be a perfect fit, and not leak, but if they took too long to fit them you might not recover from the anaesthetic either!

The quest for perfection also leads to dithering
perhaps it does , yes.
How about the quest for truth instead ?

Like me and others in the last two or three years discovered about "or whatever" - not sure about heart valves - but stints put in the heart/ one to four stints depending on the surgeons 'choice'? Instead of doing what is proven better and safer ?
And then, if stints are implanted, what about finding out a much better alternative to the surgeon's prescription of a potentially dangerous and possibly fatal drug ?

i.e. the surgeon's work might be 'perfect' as a surgery goes, but would you call it perfect if you found out there was a much better way already known and proven ?
 
perhaps it does , yes.
How about the quest for truth instead ?
Like me and others in the last two or three years discovered about "or whatever" - not sure about heart valves - but stints put in the heart/ one to four stints depending on the surgeons 'choice'? Instead of doing what is proven better and safer ?
And then, if stints are implanted, what about finding out a much better alternative to the surgeon's prescription of a potentially dangerous and possibly fatal drug ?
i.e. the surgeon's work might be 'perfect' as a surgery goes, but would you call it perfect if you found out there was a much better way already known and proven ?
I do know a surgeon, perhaps I should ask her, (though she may not like my asking, as its my estranged daughter I'm referring to!).
 
I do know a surgeon, perhaps I should ask her, (though she may not like my asking, as its my estranged daughter I'm referring to!).
Asking might not hurt, and might not help, depending on who you ask and if they are permitted to answer rightly.
An internet search , duckduckgo or ggl, may yield better and more revealing results, and as always, caveat emptor 'buyer beware' - i.e. don't accept anything without testing it and proving it first, from anyone.
 
That's exactly what my high school art teacher told me! I 'over-worked' everything, trying to make drawings and paintings that were photorealistic. Duh. Ruined almost everything. Bought a camera!
We may have had the same art teacher! Mine said the same thing until the day that I forgot to prepare a project and so I nailed a paint rag to the end of a wood crate and got my first "A" from him! (I also turned to photography!)
 
Asking might not hurt, and might not help, depending on who you ask and if they are permitted to answer rightly.
An internet search , duckduckgo or ggl, may yield better and more revealing results, and as always, caveat emptor 'buyer beware' - i.e. don't accept anything without testing it and proving it first, from anyone.
There may just be a chances doing internet searches to find information you feel confident enough to decide you can trust as you go into cardiac arrest won't be upper most on ones mind, hence "caveat emptor" may have to be put to one side for once!
 
perhaps it does , yes.
How about the quest for truth instead ?

Like me and others in the last two or three years discovered about "or whatever" - not sure about heart valves - but stints put in the heart/ one to four stints depending on the surgeons 'choice'? Instead of doing what is proven better and safer ?
And then, if stints are implanted, what about finding out a much better alternative to the surgeon's prescription of a potentially dangerous and possibly fatal drug ?

i.e. the surgeon's work might be 'perfect' as a surgery goes, but would you call it perfect if you found out there was a much better way already known and proven ?
The word is stent, not stint. JimB.
 
stents put in the heart/ one to four stents depending on the surgeons 'choice'? Instead of doing what is proven better and safer ?

One of my best friends who was in his early 50's, in great condition and who certainly didn't need one, mistakenly went to a cardiologist and had a stent put in. Three months later his wife called and said that while he was playing with his young son in the front yard that morning that he had collapsed and was dead.

A charlatan is a person practicing quackery or a similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, fame, or other advantages through pretense or deception. Antonio Fauci has personally made billions of dollars since early 2020.

Many years ago a neighbor was helping me with a project. When done I said "perfect!" He said "not perfect, good enough!" Wise words, as good enough is a much more reasonable standard to strive for than perfect, and perfect is not always good.

@Em in Ohio, you apparently don't understand the topic.
Do you think charlatans are perfect, or good, and which do YOU feel would be better?
@Em in Ohio, you posted about drawings, paintings and buying cameras. 🤔
I feel my examples are better, and what I post is my choice not yours. Wow, controlling much. 😲
 
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Do you think charlatans are perfect, or good, and which do YOU feel would be better?
One of the most common causes of death in the usa for fifty or more years has been charlatans, legally and officially practicing, like on your friend who passed away three months after. The work done on their heart might be called "perfect" or "good" or "right" or "correct", even though so many deaths occur. Is this , overall, "good" then, or "perfect", or other ?
 
There may just be a chances doing internet searches to find information you feel confident enough to decide you can trust as you go into cardiac arrest won't be upper most on ones mind, hence "caveat emptor" may have to be put to one side for once!
The time is now, not after a problem gets critical, to find out. Two acquaintances just in the last two years or so said they had heart attacks and were rushed to er in an abulance(sic) and put under and sts were put in without asking if that was their choice or not. Afterwards, they each independently discovered by searching the procedure was not only not needed, but costing near $200,000.00 was obviously a choice made for the money, nor for their health.
 
One of my best friends who was in his early 50's, in great condition and who certainly didn't need one, mistakenly went to a cardiologist and had a stent put in. Three months later his wife called and said that while he was playing with his young son in the front yard that morning that he had collapsed and was dead.

A charlatan is a person practicing quackery or a similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, fame, or other advantages through pretense or deception. Antonio Fauci has personally made billions of dollars since early 2020.

Many years ago a neighbor was helping me with a project. When done I said "perfect!" He said "not perfect, good enough!" Wise words, as good enough is a much more reasonable standard to strive for than perfect, and perfect is not always good.

@Em in Ohio, you apparently don't understand the topic.
Do you think charlatans are perfect, or good, and which do YOU feel would be better?
The OP topic was "perfect is the enemy of good." It had nothing to do with cardiac conditions or charlatans or Fauci.
 
Good God, Help me, Help us all!
"You called"!, (no, not really, my delusions haven't reached that peak yet! :) ).

Moving back to the thread topic, and OP argument, (and apologies if anything I say is a repeat performance, so long ago did this thread start), but being " the perfect mum", or "everything to your child" is a characteristic I think I can fairly say I recognise.

It was pretty much the way my ex behaved, (and it could be argued its paid dividends!), and she could well argue my parenting style wasn't up to much!

However, echoing what has been said on a thread elsewhere on the forum, perhaps there is a real difference in intent between what some fathers like myself expect to give to our child, and maybe most mothers will try to give or be to their children(?)
 
"You called"!, (no, not really, my delusions haven't reached that peak yet! :) ).

Moving back to the thread topic, and OP argument, (and apologies if anything I say is a repeat performance, so long ago did this thread start), but being " the perfect mum", or "everything to your child" is a characteristic I think I can fairly say I recognise.

It was pretty much the way my ex behaved, (and it could be argued its paid dividends!), and she could well argue my parenting style wasn't up to much!

However, echoing what has been said on a thread elsewhere on the forum, perhaps there is a real difference in intent between what some fathers like myself expect to give to our child, and maybe most mothers will try to give or be to their children(?)

My statement was not directed at you or the topic in your thread. It was regarding a comment someone posted that I thought was ridiculous.
 
Ah, but what one person views as perfect can be far different from what another person considers it to be.
Remembering the Nazis in Germany did all they could to totally change what people, including little children, thought was "good"
to suit their own purposes, agenda, and contemptible and devious goals of destroying families and gaining control of everyone's minds within three generations. - they 'knew' or figured they could not get all the adults on their side in just one generation, so they introduced insidious lies into forced education daily, repeated perhaps hundreds of times per day.
 
There is a problem when someone thinks they are perfect and can see no fault in themselves. Whenever things they go wrong, they blame everyone but themselves.
 
@Just Jeff, Actually, I believe the Nazis not only tried to eradicate races of people, I believe they tried to remove the history of a particular race, which was evident in Poland where they built concentration camps on top of two Jewish cemeteries and used the headstones to line their streets.
It always amazed me when it came down to the Nuremberg trials how many of them used the excuse of just following orders
 


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