Prince Charles, a fascinating insight into his childhood

Aunt Bea

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Her Majesty looks great!

I’m more interested in the brooch on her coat than I am in the cane.
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Queen Mary's Russian Brooch, which features a sugarloaf cabochon sapphire. The brooch was given from Empress Marie Feodorovna to Queen Mary as a wedding gift in 1893, and the Queen inherited it from her grandmother in 1953.
 

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horseless carriage

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An amazing woman with an amazing life of service and a strong sense of duty to her family and to her country.
True, she has hardly ever put a foot wrong. Her life has been one of commitment and duty, all the same my take on the monarchy, any monarchy, is that it is an anachronism.

With the economic uncertainties and constitutional disorientation it is clear to many that an unthinking acceptance of, or deference to, the institution of the monarchy can no longer be tolerated. I struggle to find any argument in favour of retaining the monarchy and believe that the Royal Family are an expensive burden to modern British society. Tourism of a historic nature would continue to flourish without them as it does in the republic of France.

Our present-day monarchy masquerades as historical tradition but in truth is a business enterprise which owes its favoured status to the British taxpayer. The cost of maintaining “the Firm”, is wholly unacceptable at a time when food banks proliferate amidst a rise in real poverty, particularly amongst those families on low incomes. Figures released by Buckingham Palace last month inform us that the price of having a monarchy last year rose by approximately 44 per cent, meaning that £67 million was lavished on private jets, trains, trips abroad, refurbishment of ostentatious homes and palaces and on literally, thousands of staff.

In a society where funding for health and education often fall victim to recession and there are increasing concerns with homelessness and material privation, the monarchy is an immoral, injudicious and scandalous waste of time and money.

The actress Helen Mirren, who starred as the Queen herself in the eponymous movie was quoted as saying: "I loathe the British class system, and the Royal Family are the apex of the British class system.” Without a class system we wouldn't have Lords & Ladies or Knights or any titles like: "The Honorable."

There are many who think as I do but say nothing because of being branded a "Leftie." There's no shame in supporting left wing views but it is particularly galling when, for me, my politics has always been right of centre.
 

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True, she has hardly ever put a foot wrong. Her life has been one of commitment and duty, all the same my take on the monarchy, any monarchy, is that it is an anachronism.

With the economic uncertainties and constitutional disorientation it is clear to many that an unthinking acceptance of, or deference to, the institution of the monarchy can no longer be tolerated. I struggle to find any argument in favour of retaining the monarchy and believe that the Royal Family are an expensive burden to modern British society. Tourism of a historic nature would continue to flourish without them as it does in the republic of France.

Our present-day monarchy masquerades as historical tradition but in truth is a business enterprise which owes its favoured status to the British taxpayer. The cost of maintaining “the Firm”, is wholly unacceptable at a time when food banks proliferate amidst a rise in real poverty, particularly amongst those families on low incomes. Figures released by Buckingham Palace last month inform us that the price of having a monarchy last year rose by approximately 44 per cent, meaning that £67 million was lavished on private jets, trains, trips abroad, refurbishment of ostentatious homes and palaces and on literally, thousands of staff.

In a society where funding for health and education often fall victim to recession and there are increasing concerns with homelessness and material privation, the monarchy is an immoral, injudicious and scandalous waste of time and money.

The actress Helen Mirren, who starred as the Queen herself in the eponymous movie was quoted as saying: "I loathe the British class system, and the Royal Family are the apex of the British class system.” Without a class system we wouldn't have Lords & Ladies or Knights or any titles like: "The Honorable."

There are many who think as I do but say nothing because of being branded a "Leftie." There's no shame in supporting left wing views but it is particularly galling when, for me, my politics has always been right of centre.
I don’t have a dog in the fight.

If you and your countrymen feel the need for a change then by all means make a change.

“Don't it always seem to go. That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone...” - Joni Mitchell, Big Yellow Taxi
 

horseless carriage

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I don’t have a dog in the fight.

If you and your countrymen feel the need for a change then by all means make a change.

“Don't it always seem to go. That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone...” - Joni Mitchell, Big Yellow Taxi
It won't happen in my lifetime Aunt Bea. But in fact we had a republic following the civil war of 1642-1651. Problem was, it came to early and the monarchy was restored in 1660. As I said previously: "The Queen has hardly ever put a foot wrong. Her life has been one of commitment and duty."
It's her devotion to duty that has won her so many admirers, myself included, albeit grudgingly, but I still say that a monarchy underpins a class system.
 

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Prince Charles with his parents and sister in October 1957
 

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By Stephanie Petit October 14, 2021



Prince William said it would be an "absolute disaster" if his son is advocating for environmental changes in 30 years because it "will be too late"

Prince George's eyes have been opened to how people are hurting planet — especially in small ways that add up.

Prince William sat down for an interview with the BBC ahead of the first Earthshot Prize Awards ceremony this weekend. The father of three revealed that his 8-year-old son was frustrated when he took part in trash cleanup with his school.

"George at school recently has been doing litter picking, and I didn't realize but talking to him the other day he was already showing that he was getting a bit confused," said the Duke of Cambridge, 39. "[He was] a bit sort of annoyed by the fact they went out litter picking one day and then the very next day, they did the same route, same time and pretty much all the same litter they picked up was back again."

He continued, "And I think that for him, he was trying to understand how and where it all came from. He couldn't understand, he's like, 'Well, we cleaned this. Why has it not gone away?'"
 
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“Charles figured out a very long time ago that he was going to be Prince of Wales for a very long time,” an English peer intimate with the royal family says. “He planned his life accordingly, and he wouldn’t have been able to accomplish half of what he has if he had become King earlier.”

 

feywon

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I believe the idea that children are not minature adults is a recent concept. Around 1900, kids from age 6 on were expected to work. If they attended school, it was only if their work schedule permitted. Prolonged "warm & fuzzy" childhoods, is a relatively new concept. Maybe Charles' upbringing was an upper crust carry over from those earlier times, and child raring theories? Like packing a kid off to boarding school.
You're right. Very recent concept. And among some groups, interestingly the lower classes-working poor and the upper classes like European Royalty that while they have more comfortable lives than the working poor they also have some heavy 'responsibilities' thrust upon them, it persists. Anyone who's talked to their parents and heard stories of their grandparents lives should know this. Heck, i'm 75, from working poor family and dealt with many realities of life my upper middle class school friends had no clue about or experience with. While parts of my childhood were almost 'idyllic' there were always some heavy shadows over it too.
 

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Happy Birthday to Prince Charles, aged 73 today .... Sunday 14th of November day of remembrance.

All the more poignant today , as he heads toward his mid 70's, and for the first time in 22 years the Queen has been unable to fulfill her role at the Remembrance day Cenotaph today after a bout of ill health this last few week.

the official statement is that she's strained her back.. but who knows, Charles might now be very close to becoming King..

 

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TUESDAY — The Queen is photographed leaving Wood Farm on the Sandringham Estate to return to Windsor by helicopter.


"A man asked him, “Prince Charles. How is your mother?’ Charles gave him an encouraging pat on the arm and seemed to say, “She’s all right, thank you.”

"The royal received an early birthday cake as he welcomed organizations recognized by the Queen’s Awards for Enterprise at a reception on Wednesday at Windsor Castle. Jo Taylor, owner of Reach and Rescue, a company that makes telescopic rescue poles for emergency services, gave him the cake. Ms Taylor, whose company was recognized in the innovation category, said: “The Prince laughed and said, ‘You’ve done your research on me,’ and slipped the card into his left pocket.”

"Charles recently attended the Cop26 Climate Change Summit in Glasgow, where he told world leaders that ‘we must put our words and commitments into practice’. One of the longtime environmentalist’s efforts to reduce his carbon footprint is to eat less meat and dairy and convert his Aston Martin to run on cheese and wine by-products".
 

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The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall on a walking tour of Umm Qais, Jordan during tour of Jordan and Egypt


"Charles and Camilla are on the first royal trip for nearly two years due to the pandemic and will take in Egypt as well as Jordan".

"Their tour has taken place at the request of the Foreign and Commonwealth to boost bi-lateral ties and highlight climate change crisis concerns".

"They met King Abdullah II and Queen Rania at the Al Husseiniya Palace before the royal pair will take part in more than 30 official engagements over the coming days".
 

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“She’s alright, thank you very much,” the 73-year-old Prince of Wales promptly told a Sky News royal correspondent on Wednesday, November 17th during a trip to Jordan. “Once you get to 95, it’s not quite as easy as it used to be,” he continued, before adding: “It’s bad enough at 73.”
-Prince Charles

"The Queen’s back sprain didn’t seem to hinder her for too long, as she was well enough for a brief meet and greet at Windsor Castle just a few days later. On Wednesday, November 17th, Queen Elizabeth II was pictured standing without her walking stick and greeting General Sir Nick Carter, the Chief of the Defense Staff. She was wearing a long-sleeved floral midi dress, and seemed to be in good spirits judging from the photos and reports".
 

hollydolly

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“She’s alright, thank you very much,” the 73-year-old Prince of Wales promptly told a Sky News royal correspondent on Wednesday, November 17th during a trip to Jordan. “Once you get to 95, it’s not quite as easy as it used to be,” he continued, before adding: “It’s bad enough at 73.”
-Prince Charles

"The Queen’s back sprain didn’t seem to hinder her for too long, as she was well enough for a brief meet and greet at Windsor Castle just a few days later. On Wednesday, November 17th, Queen Elizabeth II was pictured standing without her walking stick and greeting General Sir Nick Carter, the Chief of the Defense Staff. She was wearing a long-sleeved floral midi dress, and seemed to be in good spirits judging from the photos and reports".
actually she's become very thin recently..I have noticed a marked weight loss
 

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"Kenneth Dunsmuir, business development manager of the Dumfries House Trust, told The Times: “The preservation of rare breeds is really important to HRH, so it would have seemed a missed opportunity had we not incorporated rare breeds into his educational farm".

“This is not a petting farm or a theme park, it’s a real-life out-of-school experience for children with minimal contact with live animals and their welfare, husbandry and what products come from them. This is a revelation to the children, many of whom only know pre-packaged food as it comes from the supermarket. For them to see, smell, touch the source of what they eat and to discover where their eggs and meat come from is remarkable.”

"As if to prove his point, 11 year old Arianna Antoniucci, a pupil at St Patrick’s Primary School in Auchinleck, said after visiting Tom the Pied Crollwitzer turkey: “We eat turkey at Christmas but I’ve never seen a live one before. He made more noise than I thought he would, but it was cool.”
 


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