Proof Of Vaccination, Digital Vaccine Passports May Soon Be Available

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So far, I've just kept a copy of my vaccination card in my wallet, and the original is kept at home. I have never needed to show it for anything yet. However, soon, more and more companies, businesses, airlines, etc. will require proof of vaccination before granting service. That is a very good thing to help curb the spread of coronavirus in the United States and throughout the world. If anything, it will be an incentive to those who so far have refused to get COVID-19 vaccines.

I'm old school, so for now I'll stick with a copy of my card, but if I need to travel out of the country in the future, I will get a more formal proof of vaccination without hesitation. A code on your smartphone seems to be an easy way to show your status.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/08/05/business/here-come-vaccine-passports/
 

I have no problem with so called vaccination passports. All the years I was an Army wife I had to have updated required vaccinations for different places, and I had to have written proof I had been properly vaccinated. I carried my vaccination record with my passport and produced it at various immigration places, border crossings and wherever else it was required. Because I am allergic to the tetanus vaccination, I had to have a certified medical statement of the serous allergy appended to my vaccination record. I just don't understand the uproar about this kind of thing. It isn't like I had to publicize my entire private medical records, but only to demonstrate to authorities that I had been innoculated against diseases which , if I had not been vaccinated, could present a danger to myself or others I might come in contact with.
 
SeaBreeze said:
So far, I've just kept a copy of my vaccination card in my wallet, and the original is kept at home. I have never needed to show it for anything yet. However, soon, more and more companies, businesses, airlines, etc. will require proof of vaccination before granting service. That is a very good thing to help curb the spread of coronavirus in the United States and throughout the world. If anything, it will be an incentive to those who so far have refused to get COVID-19 vaccines.

I'm old school, so for now I'll stick with a copy of my card, but if I need to travel out of the country in the future, I will get a more formal proof of vaccination without hesitation. A code on your smartphone seems to be an easy way to show your status.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/08/05/business/here-come-vaccine-passports/
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not everyone has smart phones though. so what about those folks?
 

No "smart phone" here....but we do keep a copy of our vaccination card with us when we go out. If millions of "refusers" don't wake up to reality, the day may well come when we have to present proof of vaccination just to make a quick trip to the grocery store.
 
MarciKS said:
not everyone has smart phones though. so what about those folks?
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I think it's just an extra convenience for those with smartphones. I'm sure those who don't want to use their smartphone even if they have one, which might be me, as I don't have any personal info on my cellphone and I don't do any business with credit cards or banks on my phone, etc., will just have to have an vaccination card on their person.
 
Don M. said:
No "smart phone" here....but we do keep a copy of our vaccination card with us when we go out. If millions of "refusers" don't wake up to reality, the day may well come when we have to present proof of vaccination just to make a quick trip to the grocery store.
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I have my copy in my wallet since I was vaccinated, and so far have not had to show it anywhere....but it's there if needed, including a mask in my pocket and in each of my vehicles.
 
Butterfly said:
I have no problem with so called vaccination passports. All the years I was an Army wife I had to have updated required vaccinations for different places, and I had to have written proof I had been properly vaccinated. I carried my vaccination record with my passport and produced it at various immigration places, border crossings and wherever else it was required. Because I am allergic to the tetanus vaccination, I had to have a certified medical statement of the serous allergy appended to my vaccination record. I just don't understand the uproar about this kind of thing. It isn't like I had to publicize my entire private medical records, but only to demonstrate to authorities that I had been innoculated against diseases which , if I had not been vaccinated, could present a danger to myself or others I might come in contact with.
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Good post Butterfly, thank you. Interesting about the tetanus certification that you need, makes sense. I don't understand the uproar either, but there's always been anti-vaxxers, they just didn't matter so much until we began to be threatened with a deadly worldwide pandemic. Some folks just need a boogeyman hiding under their beds all the time, and if there is none, they'll create one.

I don't know her specifics, but I have a neighbor who has a lot of medical issues and is on various medications, she is allergic to ingredients in some vaccinations, and her doctor advised her not to get this one. If I'm ever near her, I will mask up for sure.
 
A lot of people are complaining now about how long it takes to board a plane. Just think if a passenger has to have his vaccination passport ready to show the gate agent and then the gate agent has to verify the passport. How much time will all of this add to the boarding time?

If any of us are flying to another country, you may be asked to present your passport before being boarded. This has been going on for years and the process is very quick. Will it be the same for a vaccine passport? I don't know.
 
oldman said:
A lot of people are complaining now about how long it takes to board a plane. Just think if a passenger has to have his vaccination passport ready to show the gate agent and then the gate agent has to verify the passport. How much time will all of this add to the boarding time?

If any of us are flying to another country, you may be asked to present your passport before being boarded. This has been going on for years and the process is very quick. Will it be the same for a vaccine passport? I don't know.
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Well, I think having a code on a smartphone for those who do a lot of traveling, would make it pretty quick for the gate agent. People will always complain about something, but when it comes to health during a deadly worldwide pandemic, a few extra minutes would be worth it, IMO.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Good post Butterfly, thank you. Interesting about the tetanus certification that you need, makes sense. I don't understand the uproar either, but there's always been anti-vaxxers, they just didn't matter so much until we began to be threatened with a deadly worldwide pandemic. Some folks just need a boogeyman hiding under their beds all the time, and if there is none, they'll create one.

I don't know her specifics, but I have a neighbor who has a lot of medical issues and is on various medications, she is allergic to ingredients in some vaccinations, and her doctor advised her not to get this one. If I'm ever near her, I will mask up for sure.
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The certification about the tetanus was to prevent me from having to have the vaccine if I ever came upon a requirement to have it. It was required when we were transferred to Germany, but the certification waived that requirement. It's also in big red letters in my medical records, in case I might be in an accident and someone might decide I need a tetanus shot. It's a serious enough allergy that, doctors have said, the next shot might kill me.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Good post Butterfly, thank you. Interesting about the tetanus certification that you need, makes sense. I don't understand the uproar either, but there's always been anti-vaxxers, they just didn't matter so much until we began to be threatened with a deadly worldwide pandemic. Some folks just need a boogeyman hiding under their beds all the time, and if there is none, they'll create one.

I don't know her specifics, but I have a neighbor who has a lot of medical issues and is on various medications, she is allergic to ingredients in some vaccinations, and her doctor advised her not to get this one. If I'm ever near her, I will mask up for sure.
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Hope she's thankful if you wear a mask in her presence. I've been advised not to get vaccinated for medical reasons and have felt so vulnerable once the majority of people stopped wearing masks. I suspected the first I heard of breakthrough cases in vaccinated people that they were contagious since mild and asymptomatic infected people were often super-spreaders pre vaccine. Cannot fathom the reason it took so long for experts and leaders to acknowledge that anyone sick--vaccinated or not--is contagious.
 
AnnieA said:
Hope she's thankful if you wear a mask in her presence. I've been advised not to get vaccinated for medical reasons and have felt so vulnerable once the majority of people stopped wearing masks. I suspected the first I heard of breakthrough cases in vaccinated people that they were contagious since mild and asymptomatic infected people were often super-spreaders pre vaccine. Cannot fathom the reason it took so long for experts and leaders to acknowledge that anyone sick--vaccinated or not--is contagious.
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Unfortunately they either 1) had no idea or 2) kept it from us to avoid total panic. The masking makes folks feel better about it, the masks I see most people wearing is not much more than a panacea. Those that do have actual health reasons for not getting the shot are much more careful than the general population.

The government has not exactly been forthcoming about dozens of health issues over the years, not surprisingly many do not trust the mixed messaging.

The adults in our family got the two shots as soon as possible. We follow the same protocol we’ve been using since it began. The thought of a passport is almost laughable…so easily forged. What’s next? Watermarks :)
 
I have the paper and will get a digital version as soon as it’s available.

Canada is planning on creating these Covid passports for travel outside the country and provinces can use them to if they want for local places. Quebec is already demanding passports for some events.

People are complaining that it exposes your medical history. That’s nonsense since the only thing on them is about the type of vaccination you received. There may be a problem for those who started out with AstraZeneca and then had to have a second shot of Moderna or Pfizer.
Just as Butterfly said.
Butterfly said:
It isn't like I had to publicize my entire private medical records,
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There's a subset of people who don't produce antibodies when vaccinated ...higher rates of vaccine failure in the elderly and obese, but it's not necessarily those groups. I've worked with healthy medical staff through the years who were vaccinated for Hep B that never produced antibodies no matter how many rounds of the vaccine they received. There's no way to know that without testing for antibodies.

It would make so much more sense to have "antibody passports" rather than vaccine passports. Infection produced antibodies are generally lasting six to eight months (asymptomatic and very mild cases less), and I've seen some reports saying that vaccine antibodies last about that long ...think it's too early to tell about those, though.
 

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